What soil do i fill my raised beds with?

hovegator(z9 NorCal)March 24, 2010

I apologize for the very basic question but i could not find an answer in the FAQ or elsewhere.

I want to build some proper raised beds for veggies very soon and am just wondering what a good, all purpose soil for growing various veggies would be.

I will most likely attempt to grow tomatoes, peppers, cukes, beans, etc. Can i just use potting soil? Costco has a huge bag of Miracle Grow Potting Soil for $10.99. maybe i could use that? :)

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RuthieG__TX(z8 TX)

Potting soil isn't the best thing to use. Do you have a dirt place around that delivers. Our local dirt man has what he calls "garden mix" and while I can't tell you what it actually is, It's like a sandy loam. I don't know how many beds you have but bagged soil could get expensive.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2010 at 11:55AM
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hovegator(z9 NorCal)

Thanks so much. I will look into the bulk dirt and/or figure out how many of those huge Costco bags it will actually take to fill it.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2010 at 1:00PM
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iowa_gardener

Let's consider two issues in turn: what kind of soil, and then how much.

The quality of your produce is directly related to the quality of the dirt they grow out of. This makes sense, because plants consist of energy from the sun, oxygen and carbon from the atmosphere, and matter from the soil in which they live. Therefore, it is worth your while to make sure that your beds are full of good dirt. You want to pay attention to a few factors in garden soil, mainly nutrient content and drainage. Once you know what you want, you can buy cheap ingredients and mix them to get what you desire.

Base: good ol' dirt
A good base for a garden soil mix is the cheap topsoil that you can get at your garden center. Lots of stores sell topsoil for cheap in the spring, like maybe $2 or less for a 40-pound bag. That seems like a lot of dirt, but it's really a negligible amount once you start filling in your bed.

Nutrients: compost & peat moss
You also want to have a lot of nutrients, so it is a good idea to add in some compost. It's great if you're making it, if not they sell it at garden stores. It's incredibly rich, so it's okay to mix in only a bag or two per raised bed. Peat moss is also a good idea, as it is full of organic matter. It comes in big bags, and is really concentrated so you don't need all that much to have an effect, maybe half a bag for a medium-sized bed.

Drainage: sand/vermiculite & peat moss
You also need drainage, which refers to the ability of water to seep out of the topsoil. (This is what distinguishes a swamp or marsh from "good" land where you can grow things like tomatoes or corn.) This is aided by little holes in the soil. Since water seeks the lowest level, raised beds inherently have good drainage, but you can make the situation even better. It's a good idea to break up your substrate (the area under your bed) pretty well with a fork or spade before building your bed. You also want to make sure to mix in your added soil with some of your substrate, because an abrupt border can lead to problems with compaction: sometimes roots will never penetrate the substrate if it's not mixed, and drainage will be reduced. It's a good idea to mix some sand into your bed's soil to increase drainage; vermiculite (the white chunks in potting soil) also works, but then it looks too much like potting soil and not enough like a garden for my tastes. The light texture of peat moss can also aid quite a bit in creating better drainage, in addition to the nutrient benefits.

That said, it will take a LOT of dirt to fill your raised beds. I built some beds that are 5' wide, 10' long, and 1' high. Each one required a bag of peat moss and 1,600 pounds of topsoil! That's 40 bags of that cheap topsoil, which even at a low price came out to hundreds of dollars for a few beds. I highly recommend against using potting soil or your bill will easily stretch into the thousands of dollars.

The way to do it on a budget is to:

1) buy cheap materials
2) mix it yourself
3) use topsoil that is on sale, or maybe even free from a local landfill
4) you can even fill the bottom with straw: a straw bale is pretty cheap and gets you a lot of organic matter. It will biodegrade in a year or two if it's buried at the bottom of your bed, it will increase drainage, it will not hurt your plants, and it's a lot easier to move than dirt. In Scandinavia, they traditionally grow potatoes in straw without even any dirt, and they do fine (plus then they come out totally clean!)
5) don't use potting soil! unless it's old potting soil that you have tossed in your compost pile or something

I hope all that helps -- good luck building!

Also, it might be a good idea to line the bottom with chicken wire or hardware cloth if you have problems with varmints in your area (so they can't dig up into your bed), or to line the bottom with landscape fabric (to prevent grass etc. from growing up into your bed)

    Bookmark   March 24, 2010 at 2:22PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Excellent info from iowa gardener! You might also want to browse through the many discussions over on the Container Gardening forum (that's what a raised bed is - a big container ;) and the Sq. Foot Gardening forum - for recipes and recommendations for making your own mix/fill from varied components.

Potting mix is a good additive but shouldn't be the primary ingredient since it is all organic matter which will decay and shrink over time - not to mention expensive to use. The gola is to make a light, well-draining, friable mix using peat, compost, some sand, some bark chips, even some chopped straw or shredded fall leaves to which you add soil (dairt) and mix well.

Raised beds, just like all garden beds have to be refurbished and re-amended with new additives at least once a year to maintain nutrient levels and tilth so you may wnat to consider taking up composting too.

Also check over on the Soil & Compost forum here for even more discussions on "what should I fill my raised bed with." I linked the basic FAQ on this below for you too.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Raised Bed Fill FAQ

    Bookmark   March 24, 2010 at 3:33PM
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dcgrrrl1979

Semi-related question. I'm thinking of doing raised beds since it's been too wet to till - dang marine clay - and I'm eager to get my garden in.

My garden was used as a garden last year, but there's a light cover of some sort of plant now. Do I need to turn over the soil before I put the raised bed in, or can I just put the various layers right over the surface?

Thanks!

    Bookmark   March 24, 2010 at 4:36PM
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jonhughes(So.Oregon)

Hi dcgrrrl1979,
Your options are quite limitless, depends how much work you want to do,you can lay down a few sheets of newspaper ,or a sheet of cardboard,or yank out all that growth and till in amendments to your clay...or or or .....

Very cheap wood beds

Almost as cheap but much longer lasting cinderblock beds

Much more expensive ,but no bending over and lasts forever

Here is a link that might be useful: Preparing for raised beds by Jon E Hughes

    Bookmark   March 24, 2010 at 9:00PM
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