Looking for your valuable input, please

Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana(zone 5/6)January 18, 2010

IMHO, GW is the best because of the input of all of its wonderful members, both old and new. There is so much to be shared and learned here, and even newbies who ask questions or who are seen as potential seed addicts to us enablers have much value. There is no such thing as a stupid or silly question, as chances are, there are likely other members who have been wondering about the exact same thing.

I'm think of later starting a new thread with clickable links to different threads here on this side.

I'd like to organize them somehow, but am not sure exactly how.

I thought I'd maybe group them under headers like...

Trading-good to know info.

Getting started...all set upand it would cover having a Member Page email link, what an unblocked email link is, Member trade lists, more on member trade lists.

Some threads I'd like to link to would cover, harvesting, packing and trading seeds,getting follow-up replies sent vie email, Newbie question and answer thread, 10 most frequently asked questions, etc.

I know there are some FAQ here, but they are somewhat lacking in covering so many things pertaining to trading seeds, and/or the info is obsolete, or maybe even in some cases wrong.

I think it would be fun to include a category of Just for fun and include graanieb's thread Know you're addicted to Seed Exchange-s...when... It is a wonderfully funny thread that will soon be 4 years old! There are a number of other funny ones too.

Maybe a catagory for 'rants'? They all contain some good to know info as to why one is ranting, right?

I have started a lot of threads over the years, wanting to draw info from members, so will include a lot of them. I found them via a search on my name here, and since I started them, I am familiar with them.

What ones have you maybe started or think might be good to be included? There is so much to be learned by the many questions that have been asked and then answered by so many, over the years. I thought consolidating the links to them, might help some folks who are new or newer here, as well as maybe encourage folks to ask questions, and/or read a lot of the good ole threads.

Now...put your thinking caps on.

Sue...who has likely had too much coffee and time on the computer.

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quilt_mommy(5/6 Northeast Ohio)


I so appreciate all of the effort you put into making Garden Web the place that it is. I can only imagine how much time it takes to assemble these informative threads.

I can tell you since I've been at Garden Web for several years, in my opinion, the biggest challenge is that it can be overwhelming. There are so many forums each with their own FAQ, conversation, and/or gallery pages. Trading is a beast all of it's own, and as I've mentioned to you in another post, it's taken me some time to muster up the courage to attempt it. I can only speak for myself, for whatever it's worth, I think one of the most helpful things you could do is get some of these different threads linked together in one place. It can be exhausting to go through the pages and pages of FAQ's for each forum and then the rant threads or suggestion threads or preference threads. To have everything in place so there can be no question what is expected or preferred of members would be wonderful. :)

    Bookmark   January 18, 2010 at 4:00PM
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Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana(zone 5/6)

Hi Quilt!

Being retired, I probably have a lot more time than most to 'play' here on GW. My day usually starts with GW over several cups of coffee before I get moving....thus some of my posts being very wordy....and that's probably putting it mildly for some.

After I posted this, I got to thinking about other most pertinent forums for those who would be trading (and hopefully) growing from seed.

Like the WSing forum and a link to the FAQ there, that are really great.

A link to Seed Saving as well as the FAQ there.

Growing from Seed
Growing Under Lights

I can tell you since I've been at Garden Web for several years, in my opinion, the biggest challenge is that it can be overwhelming.
Hey, tell me about it. When I first joined GW I was also pretty new to a computer and had never been to any forum before in my life. I didn't know how to get to my member page or my trade list once it was set up. A nice member sent me the URL for both my Member Page and my Member trade list. At that time, I didn't even know how to copy and paste, and it was years and years later before I learned about how to have multiple tabs or windows open. I was sooo computer challenged.

Trade lists with pics...note to self about other threads to include...


    Bookmark   January 18, 2010 at 4:31PM
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quilt_mommy(5/6 Northeast Ohio)

Sue - You are wonderfully wordy and I enjoy every moment of it. I'm a wordy girl myself. :) You have come a long way from computer challenged...you are quite the savvy one around here!!! I too could not find my member page or trade list page, glad to know I'm not the only one! The way it is situated is a little tricky if you ask me, but I cannot complain because as overwhelming as GW may be, I enjoy it so very much. Wonderful ideas and I look forward to seeing and visiting the links that are shared.

    Bookmark   January 18, 2010 at 11:34PM
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How about adding something about the importance of sending the size bubble envelope requested, not smaller and if possible not larger.

The bubble envelope size that is requested is for a reason. The seeds fit in that envelope size and for the postage requested and usually will go for first class large envelope rate.

I know that when I send the info for a BEAP I have used my digital postal scale, weighed the bubble envelope, the weight of the seeds, added to pieces of 8 1/2 by 11 inch paper to the scale and have everything all totaled to go for the first class weight.

The reason I've added to pieces of paper to the weighing is one sheet covers the weight of the paper requested with the list of seeds on it, and the other one covers the weight of packing tape and label.

When someone sends a smaller envelope than requested, the seeds can't fit for the amount of postage sent and the same thing can happen if a larger envelope is sent.

Just in the huge BEAP post I made a few weeks ago, I've gotten quite a few bubblies that where either too small or too large and there wasn't enough postage to send all the seeds.

Most times, a larger envelope will be OK, but not always.

Another thing is the simple fact that it isn't necessary to send the bubble envelope inside another one to get the BEAP seeds.

I've lost count with how many bubblies have come to inside a second envelope, even when I have given the following instruction.s

"just address the bubble envelope to me, put everything inside that I requested, tape it closed and mail it to me. There is no need to but the bubble envelope inside another one to send it to me."

OH, Just thought of another one. Figure out how to explain don't use the the tape seal on the bubble envelope to seal up the bubblie. Most times, they stick so well, that you can't get the envelope open and have to cut the bubblie to open it.
If you just take it closed with package tape, it's much easier to open the bubble without cutting it to do so.

I think it's scotch that is making bubble envelopes now with a shiny material now and if you seal that closed with their seal on it, there is no way on earth that you can get it open without cutting the bubble.


    Bookmark   January 19, 2010 at 3:23AM
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Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana(zone 5/6)

Hi Fran!

Thanks for your great input but I was going to include links to different threads as opposed to posting specific info all in one thread.

Parchancehaps you would like to start a new thread and post all of the Seeds for Postage offer info and then I could/would provide a link to it. There is a lotta info out there, including a reply in the thread of mine addressing newbie and newer member issues, but I'm sure you could improve on it, besides it having a thread all of its own....Maybe something with a catchy Subject of Posting line like Nothing to trade? Then you or others could add input about how to acquire seeds to trade (collecting, inexpensive purchases), or that other things can be traded for seeds (so long as the other things don't appear in the Subject of Posting Line in the trade).

Whatcha think? I will be collecting, acquiring, and sorting links to threads for quite a while so it will include most of what is needed to know, a lot of misc good to know info, as well as fun stuff. There's no rush.


    Bookmark   January 19, 2010 at 2:21PM
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mgpb(9b Central CA)

Hi Sue,

I like this idea of yours.
As a semi-newbie now, I remember being confused in the beginning (not hard for me) because there seemed to be multiple places to post the same thing. Ex: there's at least 2 'Name that Plant', 1 in Forums & 1 in Galleries. I've also noticed seed trading requests in various forums rather than just seed exchange.

How about something like:
"First time? Start here", with a link to an Outline page with topical links? The Outline titles would also let newbies know about things they might not even have thought about. For ex: I didn't know I needed to learn about BEAPs when I first started. But if I'd seen the title in an outline, it would've alerted me to something I needed to check out.

I don't know if this is along the lines of what you were asking, not having the experience of longer term members (notice I didn't say older) :), but I sure appreciate all the time & effort you put in to making things run smoothly. Thanks!


    Bookmark   January 30, 2010 at 9:56PM
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You should put in the search terms too for the particular links Sue, that way when they go stale the folks can still find similar info. Stale links are a bane of the internet, so in a place with limited thread storage like GW, it's vital to provide the search terms for future users. Like you said, one of the links is from a four year old post--which may or may not be here months from now.


    Bookmark   February 3, 2010 at 10:29AM
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mikey-gardener(6a,6b, kcmo)

I haven't been here too awful long and I have came and read a lot just to see who is here and what do they have to say. Being a newbie just this last year (2009) and this will be my first garden year for flowers (2010) I have been very busy this winter on my first winter sowing, first time starting seeds in the basement and watching them grow. All the work in planning what I am going to plant and where, doing a lot of research about the plants and the colors to look forward to. I was thinking that maybe there needs to more information and easier information to get. Sue you have A LOT OF FANTASTIC IDEAS with such a personality that goes along with it, and with the easy steps you have told me and got me going and informed, Just keep it up

    Bookmark   March 4, 2010 at 8:22PM
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