Summer squash: should I try a trellis?

tlouise(6)April 12, 2010

I have three kinds of squash seeds: Bennings Green Tiny patty pan squash, yellow scallop squash, and Black Beauty zucchini..

Do you think these will grow on a trellis? I think they are bush types,but has anyone had any luck getting them to grow vertically?

Thank you in advance for any input..

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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Don't know the Bennings but the others a definitely bush types and no, there is no way they will climb a trellis - nothing on them to do the climbing - just short stems and big leaves and low to the ground squash. Sorry.

Dave

    Bookmark   April 12, 2010 at 11:06PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

Squash come in two growth habits, bush and vining. For trellising you need the vining type. The seed catalog description should tell which it is.

Jim

    Bookmark   April 12, 2010 at 11:10PM
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anney(Georgia 8)

tlouise

They will have huge leaves larger than dinner plates at the end of long hollow stems and must be spaced at 2-3 feet. These are typical summer squash plant forms. All summer squash form at the base of the stems like those in this picture -- these are yellow crooknecked squash.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 6:38AM
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jimster(z7a MA)

*Most* summer squash are bush types and *most* winter squash are vining. There are exceptions to both.

Jim

Here is a link that might be useful: Tromboncino

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 8:51AM
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organicislandfarmer(9)

I am growing my squash "vertically" by stacking planters and putting the plants in the sides so they hang out. They don't seem to mind but they aren't climbers either! This allows me to grow more in less space. I had to build a pvc support structure because of the weight of the soil.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 9:45AM
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vikingkirken(6b)

I've been curious about how bush summer squash would do grown in a tomato cage... since it does vine a LITTLE bit, seems like it would save space to keep the vine growing up rather than sprawling. I might try it this year if I can find some castoff (free!) cages...

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 10:23AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I've been curious about how bush summer squash would do grown in a tomato cage... since it does vine a LITTLE bit, seems like it would save space to keep the vine growing up rather than sprawling.

Yeah, if you can call 3 inches a vine. ;) Seriously, what you will discover is that the hollow stems "break" over the cage wires and then die. "Bush" summer squash do not vine and they do not grow up. They grow out. Sorry.

Dave

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 11:30AM
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alabamanicole(7b)

Here summer squash comes in early and plays out pretty quickly. If space is a concern you could probably plant something in that spot after it's done.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 12:08PM
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organicislandfarmer(9)

this is my squash on the front porch.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 12:19PM
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anney(Georgia 8)

alabamanicole

Summer squash is neither early nor does it play out in the summer. They love the summer heat and continue until frost unless disease takes them out.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 12:28PM
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alabamanicole(7b)

Locally, we plant mid April and are usually harvesting by late May. I can squeeze 5 or 6 weeks out of a plant with less fruit and lower quality fruit at the end, but market farmers only harvest 2-3 weeks from a plant.

You can succession plant until mid-August, but by July everyone is so sick of squash no one wants any more, and the cukes and melons and winter squash are looking for room to sprawl anyway.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 12:51PM
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bella_trix(z6b SE PA)

I grow two types of summer squash - true vining (8+ feet) and more bush-like that, for me, produce a very short vine. I've tried trellising them both. I can second Dave's experience that a heavy, hollow squash vine will bend and break when draped over a wire or sharp tie (twine, green twine). Especially if it is your (well, my) best loved squash, Romanesco. I have had move success gently training short vined types up the trellis by supporting them carefully with soft, white rope (don't know what it is called).

Some short-vine/bush-like varieties can be planted closely and trained up about three-four feet - particularly Coosa, Sarzana and Odessa. Romanesco and Striato d'Italia really do not like trellising, despite their tendency to vine a bit. For true vining (8+ feet) summer squash, try Trombachino, Tatume, Mayeras or Gialla Nostrale.

I tried to find a picture from last year, but I can't find one. Why don't I take more pictures??!

Bellatrix

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 7:25PM
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