Fall gardens for Texas?

littleumMay 30, 2009

When should I start thinking about my fall garden down here in Dallas? Our last frost date is usually late November.

I'd like to try starting things from seed- if I'm doing my novice math right, I should probably start things like tomatoes and peppers now... I'd like to try lettuce, but it can stay pretty warm here through October.

Help. I'm so confused. ;)

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west_texas_peg(8a West Cen TX)

I use this link to decide when to plant.

Here is a link that might be useful: This link might be helpful for your area

    Bookmark   May 30, 2009 at 9:15PM
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shebear(z8 NCentralTex)

Yep it's time. Eggplant too. Lettuce and spinach will be much later.

    Bookmark   May 30, 2009 at 9:51PM
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cyrus_gardner(8)

Eggplant and tomato for fall crop?!

You can plant them as second round for late summer, but I think that is not equivalent to fall garden or crop.

    Bookmark   May 30, 2009 at 10:11PM
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littleum

I'm a bit confused by some of the terminology on the link.

July 1 Â July 25
 Eggplant (transplants)
 Pepper, Hot
 Pepper, Sweet Bell
 Pepper, Sweet Salad
 Tomato

For the items not noted as transplants, is it generally assumed that is from seed? Or from suckers? Or...?

    Bookmark   May 30, 2009 at 10:18PM
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eternalife

I live in N. Dallas (Frisco) and have successfully grown lettuce (red sails), spinach, carrots and potatoes.

    Bookmark   May 30, 2009 at 10:32PM
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suburbangreen(8)

I live in Plano and grow a Fall garden. I believe they are easier than Spring gardens. The plant out dates for tomatoes and peppers are talking about transplants. So if you start from seed you should start them in the next couple weeks to transplant in mid July. I carry my peppers over from Spring, but start my tomatoes from seed for Fall.

I've found lettuce and Spinach are tough to start when temps are still high. I start my first lettuce indoors and direct seed some later in the season. Beans and cucumbers germinate easily in the heat. If you can, try to provide shade when you direct seed in the summer until the seeds germinate and get going. Also be sure to heavily mulch after the plants are up.

Once you get the Fall garden going and make it into mid September, it's pretty much hands off. We even have some decent rains in the Fall. I love Fall gardening. Another positive thing about Fall gardens here is that most of the lettuce and greens overwinter and come back for Spring.

Pete

http://plantanswers.tamu.edu/fallgarden/falldirect.html

http://www.nhg.com/pdf/NTxVegPlanting_fall.pdf

    Bookmark   May 30, 2009 at 11:48PM
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littleum

Thanks for the feedback!

Why don't you try to carry your tomatos over? I've heard mixed things on this- some sources say they'll just start producing when the weather cools off, others say they'll die. Does it just depend on the variety?

    Bookmark   May 31, 2009 at 12:36AM
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shebear(z8 NCentralTex)

If my tomato plants have started losing leaves from the bottom up, I pull them and start over. If they are all green then I carry them over. Trying to "save" a weak plant makes no sense if you have the forethought to have strong seedlings available.

As I've said before, I'm growing veggies, not saving plants. It's an annual........let it go. Besides weak plants attract insects and I don't need any more insects.

    Bookmark   May 31, 2009 at 4:31AM
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littleum

Got it. :)

I'm in containers, so I'm inclined to rip things out and replace them in the name of space.

    Bookmark   May 31, 2009 at 9:33AM
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west_texas_peg(8a West Cen TX)

Last Fall I trimmed back Ponderosa Pink tomato and it came back out and was blooming just before our first frost. I moved it to my enclosed porch and it grew to 6' or so and produced tomatoes this past Winter.

I have been taking cuttings from my tomatoes and have 16 nice sized plants I can plant for a Fall garden, although I expect I just might have plants that last til frost as I have in the past.

Good luck with your Fall garden...I need to plant more Kohlrabi...grew it this Spring but the Harlequin beetles attack it and I had to harvest early. Hubby really like it so I need to plant more when the weather cools.

Peggy

    Bookmark   May 31, 2009 at 11:34PM
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