American Pillar arborvite?

annediNovember 27, 2013

Has anyone heard of this?

Any known issues?

Wondering where to buy?

Northern VA area.

Thanks!

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marcinde(7)

nope. Never heard of it, but I'm looking to see if my wholesaler out in Loudoun will snag a few for me. I'm intrigued.

The #1 biggest plant geek I've ever met is the owner of Holly, Woods, and Vines on Rte 1 in Alexandria. I'd wager that if anyone has come across this and brought them in, it's him. Beyond that I couldn't guess.

    Bookmark   November 27, 2013 at 2:44PM
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annedi

Marcinde-- how interesting... I ordered my emeralds from HW and Vines since I live near there. They said American Pillar was just patented so not yet available nurseries. I would have to order it online. Need to decide by Monday (2 Dec) to cancel my order of Emeralds and take a risk on the Am. Piller-- or not.

Thanks for responding!

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 12:07PM
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nandina(8b)

While searching for American Pillar thuja arborvitae I noted that it is new to the market and expensive. The Park Seed catalog indicates that it grows 20'-30' and suggests that another variety, Thuja North Pole, has the same characteristics but is shorter at maturity. A far less costly plant and perhaps more suitable for the urban landscape.

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 12:27PM
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marcinde(7)

If you're looking for a narrow evergreen and you live near Rte 1, I'm going to say it's a safe bet you're buying these because you have someone or something you want to screen off, right? I would tell my client that my play-it-safe recommendation is to go with what we know works and what we can get easily in case a replacement is needed. I'd probably steer you towards the Emeralds.

But for the record, if I can get my paws on a few Pillars I'll do a few at my house. But keep in mind that I can replace them with Emeralds at wholesale if they flop :)

    Bookmark   November 29, 2013 at 3:16PM
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annedi

Ha! Yes, we have a 50s mid-century modern house with a wall of windows that now faces a GIANT mcmansion, and not much space between our house and the lot line. We cannot go over 5' diameter. 12' for the emeralds will only go to the top of the neighbor's first floor windows. Was ideally looking 15-20' height but can't find it.

I am finding the Pillars online for cheap-- though they are small and don't yet know what shipping would cost.

Will check out the North Pole. Tough choice, and thanks!

    Bookmark   December 1, 2013 at 1:54PM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

'Smaragd' (Danish for emerald or emerald green) grows much taller than 12 ft., as do most other popular columnar conifers.

The other looks like it lacks the density of 'Smaragd'. And PW woody plants presented at outlets here have tended to be in small quantities with rather high per unit prices - although this year I did see a few of their shrub introductions at Home Depot.

Here is a link that might be useful: Proven Winners Plants - Thuja occidentalis American Pillar

This post was edited by bboy on Thu, Jan 2, 14 at 2:06

    Bookmark   January 2, 2014 at 1:54AM
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marcinde(7)

You can find a source that'll say Emeralds hit 15-20' in the DC area if you need it to get zoning approval for an addition (not that I would ever do something like that for a client) but it seems around here they're maxing out mostly in the 12-14 range.

I had emailed my friend who's the tree buyer for a large nursery chain in the area, and he said that they've been really underwhelmed by the American Pillar's performance. So I may still snag a couple just out of curiosity but only if I can get them cheap.

    Bookmark   January 2, 2014 at 1:00PM
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snowcapped(6a N.Idaho / Spokane)

Hello from a newbie,

I am torn...I have 80' of fence that I was going to plant Emerald Green along to create a solid 12' tall hedge UNTIL I discovered how SLOW they grow! The width I need is ideally 3', 4' max.

The North Pole just doesn't look like it will be "full" at the top, plus the spread is 4-5'.

Which brings me back to the American Pillar.

The 3' width would be great. The rate of growth would be great. I am thinking (hoping) that once the trees are trimmed to the desired height a couple of years in a row they will slow in growth and start to fill-out on top.

It is very difficult to make this kind of purchase without actually seeing the trees, but I cannot find them locally.

Does anyone have experience with either the North Pole or American Pillar as a solid hedge?

Thank you for any input!

    Bookmark   April 2, 2014 at 9:50PM
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shaxhome

I have absolutely no experience of these, but pictures aren't hard to find...

Here is a link that might be useful: American Pillar Hedges

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 12:05AM
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Tessinseattle(8)

annedi, did you get end up trying out the American Pillar? I'm in the exact same situation in Seattle and interested in trying them. No one out here has heard of them so I can't get any feedback. Love to hear what your growth experience was with this type of screening tree.

    Bookmark   May 28, 2014 at 1:10PM
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enjay2014

Just want to share that i just ordered 40 american pillars online last friday & hoping to get them maybe tuesday. i have to transplant 40 emeralds i planted last year & put these pillars in their places.

the site says theyre in 4" pot sizes so really small. so lets wait & see how well they do in my NJ back yard. hoping they grow faster than the emeralds - PLEASE let it happen!!

    Bookmark   June 14, 2014 at 11:43PM
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enjay2014

Heres the pillars last tuesday just out of the box. 25 are now planted on one side of the house, 18 emeralds transplanted further down the driveway. This side in the picture will be next for 15 pillars.

The sizes range from about 6 inches to the tallest i measured at 17 inches. So lets see by september how much height they will get.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 10:42PM
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enjay2014

Heres the pillars last tuesday just out of the box. 25 are now planted on one side of the house, 18 emeralds transplanted further down the driveway. This side in the picture will be next for 15 pillars.

The sizes range from about 6 inches to the tallest i measured at 17 inches. So lets see by september how much height they will get.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 10:44PM
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Tessinseattle(8)

Are they in? How are you liking the APs? Where did you end up purchasing from?

    Bookmark   August 10, 2014 at 1:17AM
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enjay2014

Happy Labor Day. So heres the latest on my pillars after 2 months on the ground. Theyre all growing fine, look tall & slim even this young. Just like the emeralds, theyre low maintenance. We had a rainy & cool summer here in the northeast, so i didnt really have to water much. I ended up planting 44 pillars on my left & right sides of the property. I got them online from Hirt's. 4-inch pot cost $10, a quart sized is $15. I got mostly quart sized.

    Bookmark   September 1, 2014 at 10:10AM
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enjay2014

This first pict is the one i measured at 16 inches tall the day i planted in June 19, now its exactly 2 feet. It gained 8 inches. This is one of 25 pillars on this side. Its the tallest one under full sun. The 4-inch ones on this side are now more or less a foot, except for 1 that looked droopy & weak at the start but just went straight upright to 17 inches now. That one is really remarkable as i thought it would not make it.

    Bookmark   September 1, 2014 at 10:44AM
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enjay2014

I have the winner on the other side of the yard, growing to 2 feet 7 inches from a quart-sized pot of 16 inches under partial sun as theres a tree on this side. I planted this side on june 24. This is one of 19 pillars. The pillars here were strong & really healthy looking before planting compared to the ones with full sun. The smaller pillar next to this is from a 4-inch pot, now that measures 11 inches. So thats it, i hope they keep growing till the first frost & i hope they all survive the winter. I'll post updates from time to time.

    Bookmark   September 1, 2014 at 11:56AM
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