My New Fence!!!

kalindi615July 2, 2013

OK... I am showing it off a little. But I am also posting this out there as a lot of GW members ideas and input have got me and hubby to this point. I want to put this up so that others searching for plans and ideas have another one to consider.... and again to show off my new fence a little ;-)

Problems I had to overcome:
1- surrounded by woods on 3 sides and deer come from all 3 sides.
2- ground hog burrows are pervasive through the old abandoned greenhouses which sit about 20 feet from the edge of the new garden. We thought we had 2 groundhogs left, while we were building this fence 4 babies came walking up to the fence while we ate our lunch;-(
3- on any given morning I can look out my window and see at least a dozen rabbits on my lawn.
4- no matter how many times I try to explain to hubby that we CAN do a no till garden, he (even though the only part of gardening he does is till and pick once in a while) insists that we must till (I pick my battles).
5- our yard takes almost 2 hours on a ride on to mow, we HATE having to come along with a weed-wacker also, so hubby insisted whatever we built had to be easily mowed up against.

I have no idea how to post more than one image so will be making additional entries with the other images and tell you how we built it.

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kalindi615

First, the posts are all 8' 4x4. Once sank 2' deep you have 6' above ground. We spaced the 4x4 posts 8'1" apart and built framed panels which are to be removed when we want to till. The frames are made from pretreated 2x4's, I went #2 grade to save money and just picked through whatever they had when I went to Home Depot every time I went (we are remodeling our house and are there very often anyway).

We split the 2x4s on a table saw about 1/3 of the way into the board. I took the 2/3's chunk of the 2x4 and built the actual rectangular frame with center support, put it in place added the fencing and screwed the 1/3 side of the board facing on. Then I had a finished sandwich panel.

I used a deer fencing with a 1" hex. I keeps the bunnies out and also keeps the groundhogs from reaching in and grabbing anything near the edges of the garden like the used to with the old green fencing.

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 7:50PM
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kalindi615

Now, we happen to have tons of these concrete slabs around in the old abandoned greenhouses that used to be my husbands grandfather's. They used to line the walkways. Unfortunately they weigh about 100lbs each. We put them in between the posts to keep the groundhogs out and let us mow around the garden. I am sure the same would work for pavers of any sort, these just happened to be free for us (minus the manual labor of digging them out and moving them).

The groundhogs could still dig under if they wanted to so to add a bit of extra protection I took the old garden fence and cut it into thirds. Before we re-laid the sod back down I tucked the old garden fence under the concrete slabs. Our hope is if they start digging, they will hit fence and will not be able to go any further. (insert evil laugh).

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 7:57PM
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kalindi615

My final step was to add wire around the top to bring the full height to 6'. Obviously I added strips of fabric to be sure the deer see it. I don't want to string a deer up, only keep them out.

Thanks to all the GW folks who gave me advice. I know this fence is more than most people would have done, but hubby and I are in the house we are staying in forever. We are not going anywhere and are in the process of redoing the entire house, so we figured why not a nicer garden too, especially if it keeps me a bit more sane, I am sick of yelling at woodland creatures.

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 8:00PM
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kalindi615

Corner waiting for grass to grow back.

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 8:03PM
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kalindi615

Panels removed for tilling.

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 8:05PM
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kalindi615

Easy mowing!

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 8:08PM
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jimster(z7a MA)

It looks great! It is well thought out and nice looking. You will get a lot of enjoyment from your garden.

Jim

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 8:28PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

A LOT of work! But as you say it is your forever house, so might as well do it right!
Where are you located with all of those critters? Nancy

    Bookmark   July 2, 2013 at 8:52PM
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kalindi615

I am in MD Nancy. Northern Baltimore County in a very rural location. I spent the last 7 years feeding the critters and scavenging for us, or so it felt anyway.

The fence wasn't that hard, it took a couple of days of my hubby helping me and about 2 weeks of me working on my own a few hours a day (not bad with 3 and 4 year old helpers).

The hard part of this fence was actually what was in the middle of where the garden was going. It was a concrete pad where my husband's parent used to park their planes way back in the day. It was cracked and broken and needed to be removed anyway, we were just procrastinating. We thought it would be easy, break up the concrete, rent a dumpster, move all the gravel underneath to the long country driveway, voila, done.... sooo wrong, the gravel pit went down about 9 inches, we kept moving gravel, moving gravel, moving gravel, it didn't stop. We had friends come over and take truck loads to their driveways and still we had gravel. If not for that I would have been done in May ;-(

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2ajsmama

And it's LEVEL! That's what most impresses me ;-) Seriously, good job, enjoy.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 6:34AM
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carol6ma_7ari(zones 6 & 7a)

Looks really good! Reminds me a lot of our new veg garden fence which is 7 ft. high of 4x4s with a horizontal rail of 2x4s at 3 ft. high, and the fencing is black welded wire with 2"x4" openings. We used separate rolls of 3 ft. high fencing and left a gap (not deer-size, we hope) above the railing for our view when we take a break and sit down in cheap plastic chairs. And double gates at opposite sides, so we can take the wheelbarrow of weeds out to the compost heap downhill.

We don't have groundhogs but do have deers and rabbits. So I fastened a foot of chickenwire all along the bottom, including the gates.

We had the ground de-sodded before the fence went up and we wheeled in lots and LOTS of manure and dug it in by hand. No rototilling for us, just hand digging from now on. The paths are made of layers of cardboard covered by pine bark nuggets.

We found a gate kit at HD, of steel triangles for the corners and hinges and a latch. Then the gates were made of 2x4s. Where are your gates?

Carol

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 7:04AM
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mandolls(4)

Very nice - thanks for posting. I am about to start a similar fence myself, and this helps clarify a few things I was considering.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 7:14AM
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mandolls(4)

Very nice - thanks for posting. I am about to start a similar fence myself, and this helps clarify a few things I was considering.

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lkzz(7b)

Best investment for a garden that is in the middle of various critters. You are only beating your head against a wall trying to keep them out without a fence.

Very nice job.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 9:57AM
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kalindi615

Thanks for the compliments everyone.

Carol. The gate is in the center middle, to the left of the orange bucket I was too lazy to move out of the shot. It is a double swinging gate which opens to the full 8' so 4' either side. It is made out of 2x4, but we did not split them for stability sake. I added the fencing to the interior (not the easiest part of this job I was covered in tiny little cuts all over my arms and legs trying to wrestle it in) and covered the edging with another piece of 1x2 pretreated to make it look very similar to the rest of the fence.

I saw the kits at Home Depot with the triangle reinforcement corners, wire, and turn bolts to pull the gate corner up, unfortunately the kit only has 90" wire so I had to make up the kit from parts found at HD and get longer wire. I also used heavy industrial strength hinges and the lightest (driest) pretreated wood I could find. The gate halves also have a 6' piece that stick up where they come together so the wire can be run between them also to keep the deer from jumping.

The other plan was going to be ad another 2 4x4 posts and make it a single 4' gate with 2' panels on the sides however that not only raised the cost as the 4x4 were the most expensive cost, but it also made it impossible for us to use our 1x4 concrete slabs.

You should post pics of your garden here Carol. I know the reason I am posting is that I was having a very hard time planing my garden and had yet to see anything like this out there. I found similar wooden fences, but none that dealt with the burrowers problem.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 11:34AM
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mckenziek(9CA)

Now THAT is a fence. Makes other fences look almost paltry. Great job!

--McKenzie

    Bookmark   July 3, 2013 at 1:03PM
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carol6ma_7ari(zones 6 & 7a)

Kali, I can't seem to figure out how to get iPad photos into Gardenweb. But I'll send some pix directly to your email. Later today. Happy 4th!

Carol

    Bookmark   July 4, 2013 at 9:07AM
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lm13(7)

This looks great!! Hope you have a successful season!

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GreenThumb85(6b Illinois)

I am very jealous lol! Have a good season!

    Bookmark   July 9, 2013 at 8:52AM
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