Poinsettia Update

ninecrow(England)August 8, 2006

Hi Guy's

I Still have my Big Red Poinsettia (Named him Draven) 3rd year for him...

Has any one else still got theirs??????

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ooojen(z4MN)

I've got mine!
Do you prune yours back, and if so, what time of year? I've been thinking I should cut mine back so that it stays a manageable size, but I should probably do it now, so that the pruned stems have a chance to leaf out before it has to come back indoors.

    Bookmark   August 8, 2006 at 5:56PM
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pistilo(05)

I am so jealous of this question??? I buy mine for Xmas and after the big day it just dies. Tell me your secrets on keeping them.

Now I heard you have to keep them in the dark for so many days. ??? I need a whole lot of guidance.

    Bookmark   August 8, 2006 at 7:14PM
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smithjm(z9 FL)

I also got mine. Pruned it around feb or march? I also have a problem with whiteflies, is the only plant I have that gets them.

    Bookmark   August 8, 2006 at 7:18PM
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ninecrow(England)

Oh Glad Others Still have theirs...

Jen,
Yes (and I Do) you can do it now, just make sure it's NOT later than the 1st of September, do you feed if yes what with?

pistilo,
On the Light Control Question, they need to be kept in the Dark (Complete) for 14 Continuous hours earch night from the 1st of October
Hope that helps a little

    Bookmark   August 9, 2006 at 3:39AM
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tommyr_gw

I still have my red one. Pruned back once in March and again about 2 weeks ago. It's doing great!

Tom

    Bookmark   August 11, 2006 at 8:26AM
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ninecrow(England)

Hi Tom
Gald to Hear that you still have your red...
Please Post a pic of yours
Heres Mine (Draven)

    Bookmark   August 11, 2006 at 10:41AM
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ooojen(z4MN)

Wow- I don't think I've ever, even in a greenhouse, seen one with such perfect, unblemished leaves! It's really beautiful! I love the blue hue to the leaves, too!
My Poinsettias are outside in about 60% sun. IME, the leaves are smaller when the light is stronger, and they also get battered a bit by wind and such. Mine still look nice, but they're not show-stoppers like that one.

    Bookmark   August 11, 2006 at 12:22PM
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ninecrow(England)

Thank You Jen, That Means a lot to me...

    Bookmark   August 12, 2006 at 3:40PM
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plantzzman(UK)

Ninecrow- Draven your Poinsettia looks very healthy I am very impressed as others are. I just hope it doesnt get to big for your light treatment later this year. You are clearly treating it well so far judging by the lush foliage which has good colour.

Pistilo- If your Poinsettia dies after the Xmas period is over or infact before your either buying poor specimens to start with or your after care is lacking.
There are many many bad Poinsettias for sale at Christmas time sold in supermarkets, shops, petrol (gas) stations and even market stalls. Poinsettias are often also sold at a low cost- to be produced at a low cost growers dont always carry out the best care and packaging before sale- they may even ship the poor specimens to these markets sending the better part of the crop to garden centres and florists etc.
When you buy one make sure it has as much leaf as possible, shows few yellowing leaves, it still carrys its flowers and it is being sold somewhere draft free, warm and on the drier side of damp compost wise.
Buying direct from a grower is the best option as your new plant goes straight home from their glasshouse to your home which must be the best way. Care at home should be a min temp ideally of around 15c, a light position if possible and only water when dry and just enough to damp the compost- do not allow the plant to sit in water.
I do hope you have better success this coming Christmas.

    Bookmark   August 19, 2006 at 5:52AM
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ninecrow(England)

Thank You Very much Plantzzman... I'm Very pleased with him this Year Leaves look SO much better than they last year
As for the size of him... I'm hopping that he won't get that much bigger as I had problems with Breaking Bracts when putting him away in his box last time...
Hope that makes sense...

    Bookmark   August 19, 2006 at 8:16AM
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tommyr_gw

I'll upoad a pic of mine later today Nine. Too busy right now...

Tom

    Bookmark   August 20, 2006 at 7:59AM
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tommyr_gw

As promised here's mine:

Ooops I guess this board don't handle IMG files. Try this then:

Tom

    Bookmark   August 20, 2006 at 1:43PM
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ninecrow(England)

Thank you for Posting Tom.... Your Leaves are Much Smaller tham mine, Wonder why????? Don't understand that...
How old is yours and what do you feed him on?

    Bookmark   August 20, 2006 at 5:17PM
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tommyr_gw

Well I pruned mine back for the second time in July so that's probably why the leaves are a bit smaller. I feed mine Miracle grow or Osmocote regularly. She sets in a west window and gets tons of light. I let the soil almost totally dry out between waterings.

Tom

    Bookmark   August 22, 2006 at 7:06AM
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ninecrow(England)

That's what I did too and my Laves are Much bigger than yours.... *Shrug* I feed mine Baby Bio and the window he's in get the Sun all day... Well that's when it shines.... LOL

    Bookmark   August 22, 2006 at 8:41AM
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ninecrow(England)

Jen, Tommy and smithjm, How are all your Points doing? Draven is growing well

    Bookmark   August 30, 2006 at 12:56PM
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ooojen(z4MN)

Mine's looking about the same. I think it could use a larger pot before it comes inside.

    Bookmark   August 30, 2006 at 3:06PM
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ninecrow(England)

Do you have any photos to share Jen
Thanks

    Bookmark   August 30, 2006 at 3:40PM
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tommyr_gw

Mine looks the same as the photo I posted back on August 20th. I'll start the dark cycle on October 1st...

Tom

    Bookmark   September 2, 2006 at 7:04AM
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ninecrow(England)

Might start my Light Control a bit sooner this year, maybe start on 25th of this month... Not Sure Yet...

I'll feed today I think and then just use plain water, what do you think Tom? Can't remember What I did last year and plus I'm Using a Different food "Baby Bio instead of Tomma Rite>

Hope that makes Sense... Think the rain and wind has Washed and Blown my Brains away today
Thanks

    Bookmark   September 2, 2006 at 7:51AM
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ooojen(z4MN)

Hi Ninecrow! I recently pruned mine back, and I think for the sake of its dignity, I'll wait a few weeks before I take a picture!
Mine's outside yet, and since we're rural (not a lot of outside light) I guess it started its day-shortening routine at the end of June.

    Bookmark   September 2, 2006 at 9:39AM
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ninecrow(England)

How Hard did you cut yours back and how big was it before purning?
Thanks Jen

    Bookmark   September 2, 2006 at 10:12AM
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ooojen(z4MN)

It was about 18" (~45 cm) tall from the soil mix line, but unfortunately the foliage was much thicker on the top half. I took it back about 15 cm (I think I'm actually starting to get a handle on metric...at least for small measurements!) so it looks very ragged, but I expect it to fill in nicely in time. I just hope the "time" is late summer and not next spring!

    Bookmark   September 2, 2006 at 11:15PM
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ninecrow(England)

Jen, when did you cut it back exactly as all the after care and Rebloom instructions say to do your Pruning Before the 1st of September and are you feeding, if so what?
Hopping I'm Making sense here?

    Bookmark   September 6, 2006 at 11:08AM
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dbeeman

Is anyone still in here? if you are I have a question about Points. the lower older leaves have some minor scorching and they're yellowing. every day I have to pull off a leaf or so. The new growth however is exceptionally healthy. I posted another message about this "Poinsettia Yellowing and Impatiens wilting" but no one is responding to the point problem. I hope someone reads this.

    Bookmark   September 17, 2006 at 10:54AM
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ninecrow(England)

Yes I'm here...
Can you post a photo? It would help....
Some Questions for you...
Are you feeding, if so what?
Is your Point in full sun or/and in a draft... Open window becuase it's hot... I'm asking because when it's hot in my flat I move Draven off the windowstill before I open the window, points HATE a draft...
Hope I'm making sense here...

    Bookmark   September 18, 2006 at 4:17PM
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dbeeman

Good to hear from you Ninecrow!
I'll have to work on borrowing a digital camera, but hopefully I can post one sometime this week. As for where he is at. I live In a nice temperature controlled dorm. Its always about 70 degrees Fahrenheit (21 Celsius). Its in a south faced window that we never open. Therefore no drafts. Its partially blocked by a tree so he gets five hours or so of direct light. I did have to move him direct from my patio at home indoors at the end of August so this might be an adjustment thing. As for feeding I give him liquid houseplant food (8-7-6) every two weeks or so. At least until I start light control at the beginning of September. All in all he looks healthy it is just the lower leaves. I have to remove several every few days since bringing him indoors
On another note Draven looks GREAT! You are the Point-master!
Thanks

    Bookmark   September 19, 2006 at 11:47PM
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dbeeman

uh how do u post pictures again? (Im roadkill on the Information Super Highway)LOL

    Bookmark   September 20, 2006 at 9:55PM
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ooojen(z4MN)

Roadkill -- heehee!
The easiest way is to put your picture up in the Gallery and make a link here. The link to the gallery is near the top of the previous page (the one that shows all the thread titles) and there are instructions near the bottom of the gallery page. If you want to put a picture in a thread over here, you need to load it onto a hositng site first.

Sorry I didn't get back here and answer your Q's earlier, Ninecrow. I pruned mine back near the end of Aug. I'm feeing a dilute balanced fert. I know I could use a bloom-booster, but I figure after being pruned it could use a little N, too. Mine was still outside until earlier this week, when they predicted frost. To be honest, I'm not really shooting for awe-inspiring bracts and blooms. I'm just trying to keep the plant alive and healthy. Next year I should have the sunroom done, and be somewhat caught up on the house (no delusions-- I won't be done, but I should be close) and then I'll have a little more time to fuss with it.

    Bookmark   September 21, 2006 at 10:58AM
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ninecrow(England)

I've Started Light Control Tonight.... So from Now on I will put Draven to bed in a box at 5pm and get him out again at 8am the next day....

    Bookmark   September 25, 2006 at 2:17PM
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ninecrow(England)

Anybody else going to do Light Control as well?

    Bookmark   September 26, 2006 at 6:11PM
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tommyr_gw

I'm starting mine October 1st. I go on vacation on the 2nd for 2 weeks but I'm not going anywhere (I'm kind of a homebody!), mine is a little bigger than the last photo I posted.

Tom

    Bookmark   September 26, 2006 at 9:19PM
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ninecrow(England)

I'm Starting Light Control early as an experiment because I feel that last year the Bract Colour wasn't as good as it could of been... I think I stopped doing light control to soon as we have had New Lights put up on the outside of the flats... Which is good for us but Not so good for Draven... And I think that inter feared with the Colouring up process... I'm also using a Different plant food on him this year as well

    Bookmark   September 27, 2006 at 4:51PM
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tommyr_gw

Well it's October 1st so start your dark treatment tonight folks!

Just a friendly reminder!

Tom

    Bookmark   October 1, 2006 at 4:00PM
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ninecrow(England)

Thanks for posting the October Reminder Tom...

    Bookmark   October 1, 2006 at 4:37PM
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ninecrow(England)

Anyone got any Updates?
Draven is doing Fine... And So are the Cuttings I took their in Light Control as well, started a day after Draven

    Bookmark   October 7, 2006 at 11:26AM
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dbeeman

I swear it will not let me upload my poinsettia pics
is there any other way to do this?

also how long does it normally take to see an effect from light control?

    Bookmark   October 12, 2006 at 1:41AM
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ninecrow(England)

Draven as of Yesterday...

About 40 days... Well that's what it was before, but as I'm started Light Control on the 25th of Spetember which is Closer to it's Nateral Flower Initiation Date, we'll see...

Sorry No Idea on your photos, what host are you using? This is Photo Bucket

    Bookmark   October 13, 2006 at 3:17AM
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tommyr_gw

Well, day 13 for mine and no changes in mine yet.

Tom

    Bookmark   October 13, 2006 at 8:30AM
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ninecrow(England)

Day 19 for me... And NO Colour.... So far...

    Bookmark   October 14, 2006 at 11:09AM
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ninecrow(England)

Day 27 and STILL No Colour. Has anybody else got colour Yet?

    Bookmark   October 22, 2006 at 11:18AM
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tommyr_gw

No color yet here.....day 22.

Tom

    Bookmark   October 22, 2006 at 7:35PM
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ninecrow(England)

Day 32 and I'm Seeing my 1st Blush of COLOUR!!!!! YAY!!!!!
Photos to follow....

    Bookmark   October 27, 2006 at 4:48AM
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ninecrow(England)

Had to take this without the flash as it washed the colour out as it's only just there....

    Bookmark   October 28, 2006 at 8:06AM
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tommyr_gw

I guess I should start seeing something in a few days then! This is day 28 for me...nothing yet...

Tom

    Bookmark   October 28, 2006 at 8:08PM
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tommyr_gw

36 days for me and no color yet.....

Tom

    Bookmark   November 5, 2006 at 7:16AM
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ninecrow(England)

Thats Odd.... The 25th is the appoximateion flower initiation Date... I know it says to start light Control on the 1st of October, but maybe that should be changed to imertate the Natural flowering of them....
Make sense?????????

    Bookmark   November 7, 2006 at 2:14PM
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ninecrow(England)

Of Draven.... As you can see More Colour...

    Bookmark   November 8, 2006 at 7:54AM
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LibbyLiz

I wonder if my boss would allow me to bring my digi cam to work to take pics of all the diff varieties growing in the greenhouses. Some of them are more than ready to wholesale & retail-out while others are still growing & just starting to develop their colors.

The greenhouse puts on quite the display in December with carolers & I guess festivities. It was in the newspaper last year & maybe every year. The gift shop (previously a greenhouse) is decorated in Christmas theme now!

This will be my first experience there during such time. Spring was extremely busy directing people to & helping choose annuals, plus fishing for & bagging Koi. I hope Christmas-time won't be like that!

    Bookmark   November 8, 2006 at 8:22PM
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dbeeman

Mine is only fitfully changing color. Its been a week since I caught the first trace of red.
Now even though a few more leaves are showing some red theyre not getting more red.

do I have to worry?

    Bookmark   November 10, 2006 at 10:34AM
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ninecrow(England)

Mines doing the Same dbeeman... But looking at the one I bought, the 1st Leaves to colour don't seem to be full coloured... Hope that makes sense.... If you get chance look at a green house grown one and look at the 1st leaves to show colour and you see what I mean (Hopefully)

libbyliz All I can surgest to do is Ask....

    Bookmark   November 10, 2006 at 1:40PM
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tommyr_gw

I'm starting to see hints of red on mine but seems to only be on the new emerging leaves right now. 41 days since starting the process...

Tom

    Bookmark   November 11, 2006 at 7:11AM
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ninecrow(England)

Draven 19th Nov

    Bookmark   November 19, 2006 at 3:33PM
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flash14756(z6 Boise, Idaho USA)

The greenhouse where I live is full of pointsetta, some wih speckled bracts, some ruffled. they grow their own so they've been in development for a while. I hop to get a job there when I'm old enough, (I'm 14 now, I can get hired when I'm 15) I've already gotten job offers. I want to try to keep a pointsetta over. Are any varieties, like the fancy ones, harder to grow. Has anybody seen the painted and glittered ones? I have seen them at K-mart and Wal*mart. It makes me mad, and the fact that people will buy false colored plants makes me madder (if that's even a word).

    Bookmark   November 19, 2006 at 6:47PM
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LibbyLiz

I've been forgetting to charge the camera's battery & ask the boss if I can take pictures.

But I bought one today (Glitter?) for a set of friends who invited us over for Thanksgiving. I almost bought Plum Pudding, but wanted a "unisex" color so they could both enjoy it! LOL

    Bookmark   November 20, 2006 at 9:57PM
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tommyr_gw

Well after 40 days I stopped the night treatment. Did not get a lot of reddening like your's did nine. Did you go longer than 40 days? I was told after 40 you can stop the night treatment.

Tom

    Bookmark   November 23, 2006 at 6:26AM
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ninecrow(England)

flash14756
I Hope you do get a job there, please let us know if you do
Thanks
Yes I think the Fancyer one are Harder, the fancy one I've had in the past have been VERY hard to keep from one year to the next... While Draven has Trunddled along Happy as Pie... LOL

libbyliz
Was it a Red point with glitter

TommyR
Yes to your Question, I'm still doing it.... I wouuldn't recomend stopping Light control, you don't have to be as strit with it as you were in those 1st 40 days, but I'd keep going with it... Hope that make sense...

    Bookmark   November 23, 2006 at 10:18AM
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LibbyLiz

I'm sorry to say it's too late to take pictures. I waited too long & now over half of 10 greenhouses are pretty much picked clean due to large wholesale orders!

I didn't even get a chance to count the varieties & there were many!

The one I got for friends was Glitter! I've had to pull several since then for wholesale orders. And Carousel, and the one that's plum-colored, and each of the Winter Rose colors, and Jester (I think that's its name), and...

    Bookmark   November 25, 2006 at 7:05PM
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jeannie7

Used to......I used to have 4 of them.....one was 5 years old...used to turn red without all the fuss of going into dark, out to light. Cut them back round about February and put them into a good south facing exposure.
Did the same for 3 others......put them out in summer for foliage plants. Felt pretty proud of myself for bringing them along......but they eventually kicked the bucket.

Now....I have 4 gorgeous plants ready for Christmas '06....they are red, redder and reddist.....one is white.
And they'll stay that way for years and years and years.
No more buying them in late November/DEcember and hoping they'll retain their color through the holidays.

Bought them yesterday........at MICHAEL'S.
Yes, they are artificial.......silk they are.

70% off......got the real big ones..less than I would have paid for the real ones....the ones yuo have to water regularly, the ones you have to baby, the ones that disappoint when they don't keep their color for as long as you thought they would.
Now, I have a guarantee of that.

Since the idea is to decorate-----what difference does it make whether I have to water them or not.

Merry Christmas.........and
good night Mrs Calabash.

    Bookmark   November 26, 2006 at 5:34PM
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ninecrow(England)

Draven as of today, The 1st of Dec 06

    Bookmark   December 1, 2006 at 10:48AM
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tommyr_gw

Nice! I have to continue my dark treatment I guess...

Tom

    Bookmark   December 2, 2006 at 7:38AM
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ninecrow(England)

Thanks Tom!!!!

So how's yours getting on now?

Draven is Still going strong... Hope I'll be able to keep him for next (4th Year) Christmas

    Bookmark   January 3, 2007 at 11:03AM
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tommyr_gw

Mine has not changed since last report. I should have left in in the bag longer. Lesson learned. Yours looks good though Nine! Mine IS healthy though, looks good otherwise.

Happy new year to all!

Tom

    Bookmark   January 3, 2007 at 8:10PM
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ninecrow(England)

Draven as of today the 12th of Jan 07

    Bookmark   January 12, 2007 at 10:32AM
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tommyr_gw

Excellent! Nice color!

Tom

    Bookmark   January 13, 2007 at 11:32AM
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ninecrow(England)

Thanks Tom....
Draven will get a New Pot this Year, I'm Not going any bigger he just needs a new one as the one he's in is Falling to bits.... *Sigh*

Latest Photo I have...

    Bookmark   February 14, 2007 at 2:19PM
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ninecrow(England)

Right, I've bought Draven's New pot today... I've bought a 7 inch Plastic Terracotta pot.... Didn't want to go much bigger as Space is Limatid...
More updates will follow as soon as I do something to him....

    Bookmark   February 17, 2007 at 11:24AM
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ninecrow(England)

Red to Green again....

    Bookmark   February 19, 2007 at 12:54PM
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ninecrow(England)

Haven't cut back yet and this is what's happening to his Bracts, all Bracts are now doing this....

    Bookmark   March 17, 2007 at 6:32AM
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tommyr_gw

Well I pruned mine back halfway 2 weeks ago and already have some new small leaves popping out. Looking good at the moment. I may unpot it to check for pot boundness and refreshen the soil when it warms up a bit more.

Tom

    Bookmark   March 25, 2007 at 8:37AM
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ninecrow(England)

LOOKIE!!!!!

Wonder if I'm going to get Seeds....

    Bookmark   March 26, 2007 at 12:17PM
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ninecrow(England)

What do you guys think???????????

    Bookmark   March 27, 2007 at 1:49PM
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veryunique

All this reading made me want to try growing poinsettias. I am starting to see new growths on mine, but read above that they should be pruned around April. Any tips on how to prune a poinsettia? Thanks!

    Bookmark   March 30, 2007 at 12:07PM
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tommyr_gw

Just prune it about half way down each branch just above a leaf node (where a leaf is/was). It's easy. Water well and don't water again for a while. You won't have to water after that as the leaves are gone so no water uptake will be required by the plant. When the soil gets dry water again well.

Tom

    Bookmark   March 31, 2007 at 8:19PM
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ninecrow(England)

Draven got the Chop Down last night.... This the latest I've done the 1st cut back... Normaly it'd be done in Feb...

    Bookmark   April 2, 2007 at 4:20AM
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tommyr_gw

Hi Nine! I normally do my pruning in late Feb./early March. Mine is coming along fine so far, smallish leaves at the moment. Doing well though.

Tom

    Bookmark   April 2, 2007 at 9:03PM
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naturelover_mtl(z5QC)

Hey ninecrow, nice to see that your Poinsettia is moving into another year with you. I have three that I purchased right before the holidays. All three have been chopped. One of them - the most ambitious of all - has started growing back faster than the rest. It has many new leaves - small for now - and it's branching out. I've never kept a Poinsettia for longer than one year so this is an experiment for me. If I get any of these three to bloom again, I'll be thrilled. After seeing the success you've had with your own, I feel motivated to give it a try - at least one time.

    Bookmark   April 2, 2007 at 9:29PM
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ninecrow(England)

As you can see MEGA Chop Back!!!!

He has LOADS of New Shoots Growing now... Some will have to be rubbed out as they are in the wrong place...

naturelover Please let me know how you do with yours
Thanks

    Bookmark   April 11, 2007 at 5:14AM
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elfinn

I'm a newbie to keeping poinsettias...I was given a "baby" (4" pot) cream one with pink down the centers in mid-December. It's been sitting on my desk in the exact same spot since I got it and still looks as good, maybe even better! Thanks all of you for the great information on care, I'm really excited to see how long I can keep him thriving. Ninecrow, I'm soooo impressed by Draven! Sorry, but no one else's photo links worked...

    Bookmark   April 11, 2007 at 12:16PM
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tommyr_gw

Here's mine, trimmed back last month:

    Bookmark   April 12, 2007 at 11:53AM
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naturelover_mtl(z5QC)

Wow Ninecrow, that's quite a pruning! No holds barred, huh? LOL...

Tommy, your Poinsettia looks like it's coming along nicely...

Here's a picture of mine (It's growing in hydroculture rather than soil). I have two more that are just a little bit smaller (this one is the most ambitious to get going) but they're all doing pretty much the same and okay so far. I'm going to keep pinching, trimming and so on, until the summer time to get them as compact as possible and shaped to my preference. We shall see. Ninecrow, you have inspired me to try this out! My Poinsettias are very young but you never know!

    Bookmark   April 12, 2007 at 2:10PM
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ninecrow(England)

Looking Good tommy and naturelover...

Yeah the pune back was Kinda Drastic, wasn't it.... But LOOKIE at him Now....

    Bookmark   April 12, 2007 at 2:56PM
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plantnewb

Wow, your poinsettias look great! I have two that I have managed to keep alive for two years but I don't know why. I keep them in a north facing window (actually beside a sliding door that is constantly being opened to let my dogs out) and water them when they feel dry. Thats about it. Can you tell I'm a plant newb ?!?!

I did try to get them to bloom for xmas by putting them in a closet at night but was afraid they were going into shock because they looked wilted so I abandoned the attempt very soon after.

I know its about time to prune them , the one is pretty leggy, and I'd like to repot them too. I am a little hesitant now though because this past week or two they are starting to get red stems and some red in the leaves. They shouldn't be wanting to bloom now should they? Do I wait it out or prune anyway?

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tommyr_gw

I say prune now. Half way at least. Keep soil moist but NOT soggy. Bright light, no direct sun for now.

Tom

    Bookmark   April 14, 2007 at 8:50PM
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black-thumb

Hi everyone

I purchased two this last Christmas. I always thought of them as disposables too. I thought mine were dead since most of the leaves had dropped off and others were dry. I pretty much ignored them. Then one day just as I was about to toss them out I noticed new leaves. I was shocked. They are growing like crazy now. I water them and alternate direct sun for indirect sun. They seem to be happy. I don't know anything about keeping them alive. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and see what happens. I do plan to get more next Christmas since these have done so well!

Heres a pic. I got them from Home Depot

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    Bookmark   May 5, 2007 at 12:40PM
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ninecrow(England)

This the Latest Photo I have of Draven.
Photo Taken on the 8th of May 07

    Bookmark   May 15, 2007 at 3:35PM
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ezeitner(5)

Hello. I am new here and to keeping plants. However,I have a Dravenisque poinsettia myself. Four years old and just this spring it got "working glands". Then this thing starting growing out of the flower. It dropped yesterday. Is it a poinsettia seed? If so, how deep do I plant it?
I look forward to corresponding about this. The wife and I are very excited about this plant. It is not unlike a pet to us :)

    Bookmark   May 18, 2007 at 9:05PM
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ninecrow(England)

ezeitner, 1st of all please let me say Congrats on keeping your Point alive for 4 years.... A photo would help me out re thing out of Flower
Thanks

    Bookmark   May 19, 2007 at 12:02PM
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tommyr_gw

I'll second that congrats on 4 years! Nice job! Mine is over 3 now. I wouldn't bother with the seed. Cuttings work a LOT better! Take 3-4 inch cuttings and root in well draining potting mix. Keep moist. Bright, indirect light. It's fun!

Tom

    Bookmark   May 19, 2007 at 8:48PM
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ezeitner(5)

I would love to post a pic but I don't know how to reduce the size of the pic to 61kb or less. Any ideas?

    Bookmark   May 27, 2007 at 12:31PM
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ninecrow(England)

ezeitner Try Photobucket, it resizes for you that's what I've use on these Photos....
Hope that Helps
NC

    Bookmark   May 28, 2007 at 7:49AM
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ezeitner(5)

Well, tell I figure it out...is that a poinsettia seed in Ninecrow's pic above? Also, I did provide a link to show something coming out of a gland on a flower.

Here is a link that might be useful: poinsettia seed

    Bookmark   May 28, 2007 at 7:06PM
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ninecrow(England)

Can't see your Photo ezeitner it asking for Username and Password....

    Bookmark   May 30, 2007 at 2:28AM
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ezeitner(5)

Sorry, I finally figured out how to take a picture with my camera that I can use in this forum. However, I still cannot get the pics I already have small enough.
I did today though trim most of the ends of all the branches on my little poinsettia tree. I am hoping to keep it tree-like but more growth in the center areas. I check in here now and then.

    Bookmark   June 3, 2007 at 1:27PM
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tommyr_gw

Bump! Just did the second cut back, photo later!

Tom

    Bookmark   July 13, 2007 at 8:45AM
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ninecrow(England)

Hi Tommy *Waves*
Draven's second cut will be done soon.... Probaly at the begining of August....

    Bookmark   July 13, 2007 at 9:37AM
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ninecrow(England)

Wanna Know how all of yours are doing....
Thanks
NC

    Bookmark   August 19, 2007 at 3:12PM
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tommyr_gw

Well I'll start my dark treatments tonight. She's doing well otherwise! I'm going longer this year than 40 days....

    Bookmark   September 30, 2007 at 1:37PM
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ninecrow(England)

Draven all boxed up....

    Bookmark   October 4, 2007 at 6:53AM
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tommyr_gw

Hi Nine!
I have to go buy a big box today, been using a black plastic garbage bag. Will take a pic of mine today to post.

    Bookmark   October 4, 2007 at 8:15AM
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tommyr_gw

Here we go, a quick shot taken this morning:

Couldn't find a box big enough yet. The stake is to hold the bag off of the leaves at night. The plant is almost 4 years old now.

    Bookmark   October 4, 2007 at 1:34PM
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ninecrow(England)

Looking Good tommy...

    Bookmark   October 4, 2007 at 2:34PM
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calliope(6)

The idea is to imitate nature by allowing the plant to have total darkness for an uninterrupted span each night, just like it would if it were growing in the wild without human interference by light.

Many people find that they can give their plant the dark treatment by leaving the plant in a room they'd not normally light at night, as a spare bedroom. Also many folks also don't know that not only does the plant need X hours of dark that they still need light during the day. That's why it's helpful to leave the plant in one location because those stuck in closets at night sometime get forgotten until they die.

There isn't any magic date to start the dark treatment. It just depends on when you want the bracts to turn. I've grown them under different schedules depending on the cultivar (some initiate bloom response in a shorter amount of time, like six weeks, and some need nine weeks treatment) Also some initiate at X number of hours a night and others need more or less hours of darkness or light each night.

I no longer hold them back by artificial lighting since so many varieties are offered now to the grower. I just pick out the varieties over a spectrum of early to late bloomers. They are grown on a greenhouse bench and I let nature do the light treatment.

When they are in the long night phase, you need to not let them be subjected to stray light. It can affect how perfect the blooms are. Once the bract does colour up, you should withhold fertiliser while you display it.

    Bookmark   October 6, 2007 at 6:45PM
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ninecrow(England)

I started Light Control for Draven on the 25th of September, He gets boxed at 5pm and get put back on the windowsill in the morning.... This is my 4th year of doing this with him calliope

I got hooked on Poinsettias a long time ago. When I was at college I had to grow a cash crop for a mark... The only thing I wasn't allowed to do was the PGR's
NC

    Bookmark   October 7, 2007 at 3:49AM
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calliope(6)

It was obvious to me you have it down to an art Ninecrow. Draven is a very healthy looking subject. Points are my signature crop. I've been growing them for 22 years and have done tens of thousands of every shape and size. I mostly just volunteered my thoughts on them, because some people find them intimidating and you cannot believe some of the methods I've heard (mostly unsuccessful) on how to save them from the compost and make them bloom on the next year. By the end of each season, I'm so sick of looking at them I don't want to see them until the next fall. LOL.

I have saved them over on occasion to make poinsettia standards of them. They are an easy plant to get into tree form and make a nice unusual display around the Christmas holidays.

    Bookmark   October 8, 2007 at 2:32PM
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ninecrow(England)

Thank you Calliope for your thoughts on Draven, 22 YEARS... Wow!!!!

Have you done poinsettia Wreaths? I've see them on the Ecke Ranch website. Would LOVE to try one of those, but as I don't have a Greehouse or whatnot only windsills and a Big Box......

    Bookmark   October 8, 2007 at 3:41PM
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calliope(6)

No, I haven't seen them. I have, however, made "living wreaths" of sphagnum moss wound with fine wire over frames and then planted with ivy or another mounding or creeping plant. It's very easy to work in small rooted cuttings of assorted blooming plants into this type of wreath, and certainly a very small poinsettia could be. I have normally made these for exterior use in warm weather, as watering is best done with mist and it would be messy with interior use. That's why I've not done them with poinsettias.

    Bookmark   October 8, 2007 at 10:05PM
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ninecrow(England)

Poinsettia Wreath link for you you look at
http://www.ecke.com/html/tibs/tib_poin_wreaths.html

    Bookmark   October 9, 2007 at 4:28AM
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calliope(6)

Thank you for posting that link. That's a very novel idea. It's very like a topiary actually. I've done similar things with chrysanths, you train them to cascade like a waterfall over walls using poultry mesh as a base.

    Bookmark   October 9, 2007 at 6:35AM
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ninecrow(England)

You're Very Welcome re Link
Are you grow a crop of Points this Year if so which ones?
Thanks

    Bookmark   October 9, 2007 at 12:14PM
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calliope(6)

I'll be selling them, but not growing any myself. I have some maintenance to do on the g'houses and want them empty up until the last possible minute. When I do points, I start them in July. We've been in a draught all summer and that's played into it as well. I cut down my on-bench inventory to the minimum early. We use our own spring and well and don't have access to main. In years like this when I had a large summer/fall crop I sometimes had to have water hauled in. So, it worked out well.

I've usually had a large corner of the wholesale trade in seasonal flowers in my area, and haven't done much in retail for the last decade. But, a new box store decided they wanted a piece of that market as well as the retail market. I'm too unsure of the market share I'll be getting this year to chance investing my time and money to growing the traditional numbers I used to grow. It'll be more cost effective for me to order them in so there is no waste. The profit margin on them is very slim.

There are so many new varieties out anymore, the choice is staggering. I like the freedom series as they have a good post-production life and bloom early enough to catch everything from Thanksgiving onward. Then I'll also hit a mid-season variety to catch the late orders. Reds here account for at least 80 percent of the sales on a wholesale level anyway. When I grew for florist shops, that was a different matter. I moved everything from tangerine to yellow then and pinks accounted for half of my inventory.

The newer varieties have so many good characteristics bred right into them it's made it possible to grow great ones routinely. When I first started growing points, it was all about skill and scheduling. You lived with growth retardants and the old reds would bleach out on you if you had a sunnier than usual winter or get four feet tall, lol. But grown well, they were breathtaking. My favs were from the Gutbier Angelikas and also the Lilos.

    Bookmark   October 10, 2007 at 11:45PM
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jeannie7

If anybody doesn't have more to do with their lives than be a slave to a plant, then there is no reason whatsoever to attempting to bring back a poinsettia to its former glory....with no guarantees.

Taking a plant from sunlight, to darkness, on a daily basis, without fail, has got to be one of the worst drags on human activity known to mankind.
But, if that is your test in life, then ......

GO FOR IT!

    Bookmark   October 11, 2007 at 10:46AM
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ninecrow(England)

That's a bit rude jeannie7 as This Thread was/IS done for educational purposes....

That's All I'm going to say on this matter as I don't want to be kicked off this site

    Bookmark   October 11, 2007 at 2:10PM
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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Hi,

Great Pictures of your poinsettias by the way. I live in Florida and I just wanted to share these photos of my Poinsettias that I kept from last Christmas, I am also trying to get it to re-bloom. Hope it works. Good luck to all...

    Bookmark   October 23, 2007 at 12:40PM
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ninecrow(England)

Wow puglvr1 Good Looking Point you have there....
What Colour, how big, and does he have a name? LOL

I have a Friend in Tampa Bay and she has a Massive Point too.... LUCKY you Guys in Florida....

    Bookmark   October 23, 2007 at 5:13PM
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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Thanks so much ninecrow, yours is really pretty. The big one is in a 13" pot and the green pot is 10 1/2". They are both red when I bought them. Now I just hope it will color in a couple of months?? Show us pics when yours turn color.

    Bookmark   October 23, 2007 at 5:27PM
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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Hi,

Just thought I would post a pic of an update of one of my poinsettia that I am trying to re-bloom, I think it is starting to get a little bit of color? If you look three posts above it is the one in the green pot. What do you think?? Seems a little early to me, my other two has no change...

    Bookmark   November 2, 2007 at 12:57PM
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j_nail(5 Eastern WA)

Hello!
I'm growing my first crop as a Greenhouse/Nursery student this year and we do Point Trials for some breeders. Thought maybe you'd be interested in seeing some new cultivars and their progress so far, so I'm posting a link to our site. Never was much of a fan of points to be honest, but I'm having TONS of fun with this!!! I've developed a huge appreciation for them, it may not develop into a passion for me, but I am enjoying it for now. I'm also very excited to see your drive (and success!!!) to do this from home!!! Kudos you guys!!!

The "Pointsettia Trials" Tab at the top of the page takes you to the list of what we have. Each cultivar has weekly photos every Friday and we will write up bios on each one here pretty soon. You can also look at completed trials from '05 and '06. Feedback is welcome!

Janelle

Here is a link that might be useful: SCC Greenhouse/Nursery Program

    Bookmark   November 2, 2007 at 1:25PM
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puglvr1(9b central FL)

Hi Janelle,

Thanks for posting the link, there's a ton of great pictures in there, I knew there's a lot of varieties and colors available, but I had no idea just how many. Great website...

    Bookmark   November 2, 2007 at 4:13PM
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tommyr_gw

LOVE Enke's "Shimmer surprize"!

    Bookmark   November 2, 2007 at 6:53PM
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j_nail(5 Eastern WA)

Hey you're all very welcome! I was hoping someone would enjoy it!

puglvr: Yes, TONS of varieties, and new ones all the time! We're one of only a handful of Community Colleges that perform these trials, which I think is very cool. We track their progress closely and give the breeders detailed feedback.

tommyr: Yeah, that was the first to catch my eye (not her best plant in her photos either, they're WAY cooler!). I've been obsessing over Fischer's "Cortez Burgundy" and Ecke's "Freedom Early White" (which are both another woman's crop) all week though. And Fischer's "Sonora Marble" is my favorite that I'm growing.

    Bookmark   November 2, 2007 at 10:15PM
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kioni(3)

Hi ninecrow. I've enjoyed this thread about Draven and everyone else's 'pet' poinsettias, and would love to continue reading more...but this thread is getting quite long, and even with high speed, I find it takes some time for everything to load up. Would you consider starting a new thread for Draven, maybe Draven's 4th Year, or Draven 2007, or however you wish to title, with links to this older thread? If not, I bow to you anyway, takes a lot of patience to get these guys to re-bloom (I'm just thinking of in the box at night, out the box in the morning ritual - something I would not be able to be consistent with, but I am finding the itch to try this with the poinsettia I will receive this Christmas). Thank - you.

    Bookmark   November 3, 2007 at 3:03PM
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tommyr_gw

Yeah this thread IS getting a bit long huh?! Maybe we could call the new thread "Poinsettia update V 2.0"? With a link at top for this thread.

    Bookmark   November 4, 2007 at 10:34AM
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ninecrow(England)

PLEASE Post all new Replies in New Thread
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/houseplt/msg1115562429336.html

Thanks
NC

    Bookmark   November 7, 2007 at 3:58PM
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Price2013

HELP
My Poinsettia is 7 years old this Christmas and has taken over my dining room table. She is lovely and produces beautiful red flowers and bright green leaves all year round. I really need to prune her but I am scared of killing her. She has been re potted 3 times now. Any advice would be good please.

    Bookmark   August 20, 2013 at 7:23AM
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