Sahara Bermuda

mojo6911April 12, 2010

I used Roundup to kill my lawn, tilled, topdressed and planted Sahara bermuda last year in mid to late August.

I am afraid it didn't take very well, as my lawn is about 60% clover and other weeds and is quite patchy. I have applied some 15-5-10 fertilizer this week to maybe get it going.

Should it start to green up around this time of year? If I don't have good coverage by mid June, should I assume it didn't take?

Can I mow everything down to the lowest setting with my reel mower, roundup and rake, and start over with a better variety of seed?

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texas-weed(7A)

Well first there is nothing wrong with Sahara Bermuda grass. It is better to use a blend, but don't sweat it yet.

When did you plant it last year? Did it come up and fill in?

Right now is the perfect time in Dallas for the first application, so you did good there. I suspect you just have the normal winter annuals although a lot of clover can indicate low soil nitrogen.

Bermuda is just now starting to good and green right now, wait a couple of weeks to give the fertilizer a chance and th etemps to warm up a bit. Everything is late this year with our very long and bitter cold winter we had.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2010 at 11:00PM
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botanicalbill(9b SWFlorida)

I would hit it hard with some 2,4-d in a week or two, that should wipe out the clover. You can get 1 to 2.5 gallons of concentrated 2,4-d at tractor supply, twenty to fifty bucks, depending on the size. Then get a dial sprayer and apply. Use gloves, googles and protective equiptment (long sleves and pants, rubber boots). You dont want a heavy exposure of this stuff.
This is the most common active ingredient of all weed killers, with a very few exceptions.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2010 at 11:20PM
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rdaystrom

Sounds like your planting was normal for that time of year. Planting Bermuda seed that late is not recommended. Bermuda planted late in the season does not survive as well as if it has been planted in the spring. Like TW said this has been a bad winter in your area and mine. My Sahara Bermuda is coming back but it is much slower than usual because of the cold. I like Sahara Bermuda and use it in my 3 acre yard. I have a friend/neighbor that recently built on 5 acres. Right now I have prepped about 2 acres of the yard and am close to planting Sahara Bermuda there. The temps are getting close to perfect and I hope rain continues to fall often enough to help germination along.
botanicalbill is correct about the herbicide. I had to do this several years before I got rid of the undesirable weeds and grass. Additionally,if you have an invasion of Bahia grass you may need to spray with DuPont's Cimarron-plus. Correctly used herbicides will not hurt the Bermuda permanently even when just planted that season. Studies at several universities proved that myth to be wrong. Good luck. Remember a good lawn takes patience and consistent care.
It is possible that you may need to overseed or start over as well but I'm thinking some of what you planted will come back soon. Planting now would yield better results than a late season planting.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2010 at 11:54PM
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dwrecktor

TW wrote: "Well first there is nothing wrong with Sahara Bermuda grass. It is better to use a blend, but don't sweat it yet."

Just curious, buy what's the reasoning behind using a blend instead of one specific type of seed? Wouldn't you want the grass to match? Thanks.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 1:46AM
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hannity

Because one of the blends will grow faster and dominate the the others. Presumably, it'll be the one that grows best for your area.

It's a way of hedging your bets, so to speak.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 9:03AM
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mojo6911

I planted in mid August. I mowed it 2x and then put down some fertilizer to get it going. It was very patchy and didn't fill in very much, but it seemed like it was growing vertically, but not spreading, as I had to cut it with my reel mower 2x per week. I have one spot that is probably 4 feet x 4 feet where nothing grew at all. The soil didn't seem compacted or anything, so I am not sure what the problem is there.

Is it possible to overseed with a blend later in the year?

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 9:05AM
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rdaystrom

Overseed now if you are planting Bermuda. Bermuda planting is not recommended in late season because the immature plant does not survive the winter cold as well as a more mature plant.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 10:27AM
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dchall_san_antonio(8 San Antonio)

I would wait. I think that in 30 days you will be at least humored over your worries. You have until August to overseed bermuda.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2010 at 1:12PM
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