I'm trying out making bird feeders. I saw an example on the web and ran across a chick feeder so made a few. There is a lot of work involved when you have to find all the right nuts, bolts etc. I finally got the hang of drilling the holes after about 6 shattered plates :). People are always asking me for bird feeders and I hadn't made these type before. I think I might stick to totems and plate flowers.