I've been searching for bigger spoons, cake servers, serving forks and anything that would flatten out and make a good backing for my plate flowers. It's almost impossible to find ones that will flatten out and have a handle that will fit in the PVC pipe. I finally bought a cake server at the 99 cent store so I could put it on the back of this large and heavy flower. I got excited the other day and the Dollar Store and bought two big spoons for a dollar and thought I would go home and see how they flattened out. Flattened really well but the darn handle wouldn't fit in the PVC. Ugh! My DH said he could grind the handles down so they would fit and he did a good job. Sometimes after searching for so long I forget what the parameters are.