Is it too late to sow bermudagrass seed

badhabit40366(8)July 28, 2013

I am wondering if its too late in the season to put down some Bermuda seed this week? I bought the seed earlier this season with the intention of getting it down about two months ago,but other issues forced me to put it off.Would like to use this seed to improve stand of grass in my front yard(previously seeded) and I don't want to sit on 100 pounds of seed trying to go the "dormant" seeding route.Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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texas-weed(7A)

Bit to late. Is the area prepared yet? Fall will be early this year.

This post was edited by texas-weed on Mon, Jul 29, 13 at 18:41

    Bookmark   July 29, 2013 at 6:40PM
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badhabit40366(8)

Thanks for the reply Texas-Weed, yes the area is ready to go been scalped and bagged ,spiked aerated,amendments added . I was hoping to get it all done so ive been burning the candle all weekend.

    Bookmark   July 30, 2013 at 12:21AM
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badhabit40366(8)

I guess I should add that I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the dropping the seed to soil about the same time you were composing your reply. So I reckon ill just have to cross my fingers and hope the weather holds up for me .

    Bookmark   July 30, 2013 at 12:25AM
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dchall_san_antonio(8 San Antonio)

Please keep us informed how it goes.

    Bookmark   July 30, 2013 at 1:27AM
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apundt-tx(8 SW Austin)

Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) on
Mon, Jul 29, 13 at 18:40

Bit to late. Is the area prepared yet? Fall will be early this year.

Interested in signs of an early fall. hard to imagine with this 100 degree heat we are having now but I do see baby acorns starting early on some of my oak trees. Your comment peeked my interest and I could not find anything online about signs of an early fall. Please educate we with some of your wisdom.

    Bookmark   July 30, 2013 at 10:48PM
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badhabit40366(8)

Will post info on how it fares over the next few months.I can definitely say it is super hot here ...as if making up for over a month of rain every day kinda hot. Out in the back yard today spraying using the riding mower and lost 10lbs of sweat.The area I put the seed in is being irrigated 4x a day for 8min over the three zones 1000 1245 1500 and 1830.Been home all day so I came up with this by monitoring moisture throughout day in seed bed.

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    Bookmark   July 30, 2013 at 11:21PM
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badhabit40366(8)

Rained really good last night ,wondering how much of the seed and sand is still in relatively in place .Nothing like mother nature watering for ya !

    Bookmark   August 1, 2013 at 8:39AM
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badhabit40366(8)

Rain doesn't appear to have washed out all of the seed from what I can see in the totally bare areas...fingers crossed.

    Bookmark   August 2, 2013 at 1:45AM
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neilaz(9a)

The problem with doing it late would be if you don't have something like 100-120 days until frost then you risk a higher % of the Bermuda not surviving the winter.

    Bookmark   August 3, 2013 at 11:51AM
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badhabit40366(8)

Gotcha,on that neilaz, I should explain that im not working from hopeless stand just had areas from where crabgrass was killed that weren't filling in fast enough for my liking. It is truly amazing to see how quick grass is recovering from the double scalping it got last week.I guess the truth of it is that I had a "good" excuse to buy a better variety of seed to try and improve the "asthetics".

    Bookmark   August 3, 2013 at 2:03PM
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badhabit40366(8)

OK, it has been 8 days since the seed was sown...Sooo,am I crazy or are these seedlings im seeing in the thin areas???

    Bookmark   August 5, 2013 at 7:34PM
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dchall_san_antonio(8 San Antonio)

Those are what you're looking for.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2013 at 7:54PM
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texas-weed(7A)

Sooo,am I crazy or are these seedlings im seeing in the thin areas???

No you are not crazy. that is Bermuda seedlings. It takes 7 to 10 days to germinate, so at 8 days you should see signs of life.

Now the race is on to the first frost.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2013 at 11:13PM
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badhabit40366(8)

Posted by texas-weed 7A (My Page) on Mon, Aug 5, 13 at 23:13
Sooo,am I crazy or are these seedlings im seeing in the thin areas???
No you are not crazy. that is Bermuda seedlings. It takes 7 to 10 days to germinate, so at 8 days you should see signs of life.

Now the race is on to the first frost.

Crossing my fingers and hoping for success!

    Bookmark   August 6, 2013 at 3:44AM
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badhabit40366(8)

Ok so 2 week point is tomorrow and seedlings are looking good ...along with great spreading from grass already there. The Bad...weeds germinating like crazy because of the daily light watering for the seedlings.Would now be a good time to decrease frequency of water and go a little longer??

    Bookmark   August 11, 2013 at 8:10PM
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badhabit40366(8)

This is a pic of the same area shown earlier in thread after 2 weeks.

    Bookmark   August 12, 2013 at 8:55PM
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badhabit40366(8)

More rain ,almost an entire weeks worth ,ground is fairly well saturated .The seedlings seem to be OK but it seems that the existing grass is still spreading at a good rate to help cover the bare areas. Seems that maybe i should have been more patient and just let it do its thing,especially seeing the crabgrass explosion Im dealing with now! Photo is from area that was almost totally bare when thread was started.

    Bookmark   August 19, 2013 at 5:59PM
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lou_midlothian_tx(z8 DFW, Tx)

I wonder if seaweed spray would help against light frost?

Yes cut back on watering frequency and water more deeply but it looks like you're getting plenty of rain?

Have you fertilized?

    Bookmark   August 19, 2013 at 7:29PM
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badhabit40366(8)

Posted by lou_midlothian_tx z8 DFW, Tx (My Page) on Mon, Aug 19, 13 at 19:29
I wonder if seaweed spray would help against light frost?
Yes cut back on watering frequency and water more deeply but it looks like you're getting plenty of rain?

Have you fertilized?

Irrigation been off since 8/12 we are getting quite a lot of rain every day for a week. fertilizer went down 8/13 while i was getting a light drizzle before the daily soaking.

    Bookmark   August 20, 2013 at 2:20AM
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lou_midlothian_tx(z8 DFW, Tx)

Your grass should grow a lot as long as weather stays warm for a few weeks. When does your area get first freeze of the year?

    Bookmark   August 20, 2013 at 8:23AM
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badhabit40366(8)

Posted by lou_midlothian_tx z8 DFW, Tx (My Page) on Tue, Aug 20, 13 at 8:23
Your grass should grow a lot as long as weather stays warm for a few weeks. When does your area get first freeze of the year?

I wouldnt normally expect to see grass go dormant before November if last few years are any indication at all. Last year it didnt happen until around first week in December.Historically I would bet on the middle of November before looking for a light/medium freeze.

    Bookmark   August 21, 2013 at 12:24PM
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badhabit40366(8)

As a follow-up of sorts to anyone looking to improve density and fill in of bare areas I would have to say that if there is a fairly strong stand available it is probably better route to strictly follow good care practices and allow present plants to spread into affected areas.Just from my experience the last few weeks the runners are filling in much faster than expected and will probably adversely affect seedlings for a while by limiting sunlight . Second, the aeration done previously followed by a long period of daily rains have given weeds(especially crabgrass) a new lease on life;I have easily spent 4hours every day for the past three weeks pulling weeds with no shortage of candidates.

    Bookmark   August 21, 2013 at 12:49PM
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badhabit40366(8)

My seed is at the 41 day mark and all seems well, fertilized it today and its been cut at one inch about 8 times in the past 24 days or so . Spread out 150 lbs. of alfalfa pellets 4 days ago onto the area hoping to improve soil structure and augment fertilizer just a little bit. The best price I'm finding on the alfalfa is about $20.00 per bag, so I'm wondering where are you guys buying yours ?Also wondering about hog "finishing feed" 13% crude protein, would the grains in that or cracked corn be ok to use? I can get 50lb bags of those for $13.00 .

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 10:40PM
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badhabit40366(8)

more pics

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 10:47PM
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badhabit40366(8)

pic

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 10:53PM
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badhabit40366(8)

yet another

    Bookmark   September 6, 2013 at 11:45PM
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