Yet another "fern/weed" ID needed

shear_stupidity(9B)February 3, 2013

This plant showed up all on its own about 3-4 years ago as a litte 6" tall "weed." I liked the look of it, so I left it there. It is now about 6' tall, growing in mostly shade. Any idea what it is and how to propagate?

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restoner(6B-7A)

chinaberry (melia azedarach)?

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 4:49PM
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shear_stupidity(9B)

Maybe? I've never seen berries or flowers on it, though.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 4:55PM
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thedecoguy

Aralia sp?

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 5:25PM
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shear_stupidity(9B)

Doesn't seem to be so.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2013 at 5:36PM
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ravencajun Zone 8b TX(8b)

some type of elm?

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 3:12AM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Could there be two different plants in there? Can you trace the stems down Both appear to be pinnate leaved but the lower one has much smaller denser leaves.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 5:51AM
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eahamel(9a)

Looks like a Golden Rain Tree to me. Very, very invasive. I suggest you cut it down and put stump killer on the stump. Definitely not an elm or aralia. It's in the wrong place for a 50' tall tree, and trust me, you don't want to spend the rest of your life killing off seedlings, like I'm doing because of several next door to me.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 6:21AM
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fatamorgana2121

Goldenrain tree was my first reaction but I'm not sure. Wait on the destruction of the plant until you get a more definite ID.

FataMorgana

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 7:49AM
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nicethyme

if its not Koelreuteria then its Gymnocladus, either way, its a tree and needs to be moved.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 7:53AM
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shear_stupidity(9B)

I agree with fatamorgana: I don't want to cut it down if that's not what it is.

I took a few more pics to see if it helps. Fata, you are right about it being more than one plant. There are three. Here is a pic of the three "trunks."

Here is a picture of some new growth on the medium-sized one.

Here is one "frond/branch" in almost its entirety.

And this picture shows where the "fronds/branches" attach to the main stem or trunk.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 8:06AM
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saltcedar(Sunset zn 30/usda 8b)

Koelreuteria for certain.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 8:23AM
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shear_stupidity(9B)

Ok, I'll cut it down tomorrow. Removing all these invasive plants is sure leaving holes in my landscaping!

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 8:37AM
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saltcedar(Sunset zn 30/usda 8b)

Koelreuteria bipinnata isn't entirely bad. I'd move it to another location
and watch it closely. It's cousin koelreuteria paniculata is a real pest.

Here is a link that might be useful: koelreuteria-bipinnata

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 9:21AM
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shear_stupidity(9B)

How would I know which one I have?

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 9:40AM
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saltcedar(Sunset zn 30/usda 8b)

Yours is bipinnate, hence it's name.

Here is a link that might be useful: Compound leaf

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 9:58AM
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shear_stupidity(9B)

You said to watch it closely? What am I watching for?

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 10:00AM
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saltcedar(Sunset zn 30/usda 8b)

Tendency to spread out by seed to natural areas nearby.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 11:19AM
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shear_stupidity(9B)

Ok, thanks! :)

    Bookmark   February 4, 2013 at 1:56PM
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