Phlox? Dianthus? Candytuft?

dedtiredMay 17, 2014

There is an ongoing debate on my local Facebook gardening page about the identity of this plant. The stems look like dianthus to me but the flower looks more like phlox. Any guesses?

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dedtired

Here's another view. We are outside Philadelphia.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 4:30PM
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linaria_gw

Looks like 2 different plants, first pic is probably Cerastium tomentosa, growing next to some other (Vinca perhaps)

The second pic, with much darker foliage, is probably Iberis sempervirens ( candytuft?)

Did you take both pics yourself?

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 4:42PM
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dedtired

No, they are someone else's pictures. What is the common name for Ceratium tomentosa?

Yes, that looks like vinca to the side. I should have been more specific and said the flowering plant. To me the stems look like dianthus but the flower looks like phlox.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 4:59PM
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carol23_gw

Cerastium tomentosum, Snow in Summer. Don't know why it's called that because it flowers in spring.

Here is a link that might be useful: Cerastium tomentosum

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 5:03PM
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dedtired

Carol23, I think you've got it! Thank you so much.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 5:10PM
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dedtired

Oh, Linaria, thank you, too. You are both good.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 5:23PM
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Carrie B

Agree that the second photo is Iberis.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 9:55PM
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dedtired

Both photos are of the same plant, but the first also shows some vinca. Nice to meet you, carrieb, a fellow Philadelphian.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 10:18PM
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calliope(6)

No, they are not the same plant. Not only is the foliage different, but the plant in the first picture has flowers born singularly, not so in the second. The flowers in the second picture have flowers born in umbels. The second picture is iberis, but the first is not and like the others suggested, it does appear to be snow in summer. I grow both in my gardens.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 12:33AM
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duluthinbloomz4

My thought on the first picture is that it's one of the dianthus deltoides.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 12:52AM
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shadeyplace(7)

first picture, I agree with dianthus.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 8:45AM
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dedtired

Okay, thanks. Maybe that is why everyone is arguing over the identity. The person who posted the original photos on Facebook swears it is the same plant, but who knows, maybe he just thinks it is. I appreciate your help!

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 10:18AM
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dedtired

Another shot from his garden. Is this one Snow in Summer?

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 10:22AM
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jeanne

Yes.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 10:28AM
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dedtired

Again -- thanks.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 11:47AM
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Carrie B

Dedtired - are you in the city of Philadelphia, or out in the 'burbs (or one of the "burb-ish" neighborhoods that are technically city, but not really?)

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 12:00PM
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dedtired

Hi Carrie, I am "north and east" of the city as they say in the weather reports. Just over City Line Avenue, 12 miles from City Hall. Love the city and I was born not far from Rittenhouse Square. I worked in center city for many years. You?

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 12:17PM
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Carrie B

I'm in south Philly! Definitely urban gardening for me. A mile (?) from city hall.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 12:19PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Whatever the original poster says they are two different species.

The first plant is one hundred percent Cerastium tomentosum. The only connection with Dianthus is that they are both in the family Caryophylaceae.

The second is equally definitely Iberis sempervirens.

They are two of the most ubiquitous spring flowering garden plants in my climate and I have known them all my life.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 1:02PM
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dedtired

Hmm, South Philly. That is a lively area! I just love our city, especially in this season.

Okay, I asked my friend if that could be two different plants (pics 1 and 2) and he admits they could be. He pulled up a picture he had taken previously and now says its two different plants. So sorry for the confusion but he was most curious about the snow in summer.

Floral_UK, I would love to go on a garden tour in your country.

I am impressed with your knowledge.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2014 at 1:44PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Come on over! The sun is actually out at the moment and I have to admit it does look quite nice.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2014 at 6:37AM
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dedtired

Be careful what you say, Floral. I may just be there. Well, one day I really will. Soon I hope.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2014 at 10:58AM
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