#268 'And what is so rare as a day in June?'

deanneart(z5Southern NH)June 2, 2006

Good morning Idylls,

"And what is so rare as a day in June? Then, if ever, come perfect days; Then Heaven tries earth if it be in tune, And over it softly her warm ear lays."

Author: James Russell Lowell

I ran around all day yesterday and it seems like I got nothing done. Arrgghh!!! I hate it when that happens. So maybe today I can get Dougs garage cleaned out. We got some pretty biggy-big thunder storms last night and the lights flickered a bit, enough to reset all the digital clocks but not long enough to be a pain. WeÂre lucky, some are still without power and we are in another flash flood watch.

Sue, I was enjoying your garden pics again and was wondering what that beautiful grass is in front of your W ÂWine and RosesÂ? That is such a gorgeous combination with that rhododendron. Is that a yak type? Also, how wide and tall is that wegelia? I planted one in my terrace garden next to the large cimi in the second tier and IÂm hoping it isnÂt too difficult to keep in bounds.

Cindy, I agree with you 100% about SueÂs eye for dramatic combinations. My favorite from her gardens last year was the patio area next to the garage. She had a canna lily that looked like it was on steroids. Her patio with the bananaÂs and brugs felt like you were in the tropics. Simply fantastic! ~~ Here is a long shot of that clump of ÂBeverly SillsÂ. In past years it has been an indifferent bloomer but it is outperforming itself this year for some reason. I wish I knew what made it do so well.

Eden, thanks for checking in. Looking forward to hearing more about how you are doing and seeing pics of your containers.

Babs, how terrific that AJ isnÂt bothered by storms anymore. That must be a huge relief. ~~ Glad to hear the musical was a big success.

GB I so know what you mean that it is difficult to see the early clematis fading away! My lovely ÂAsao is just about done and it is time to get out the pruners. IÂm thinking IÂm going to cut it right back to the ground to start over again as that bottom growth is so twisted and woody it probably is the best way to go. Looking forward to pics of your gardens???

Mary, I canÂt believe how grown up Annie is looking! She is lovely, just like her mom. ~~ Mary, I donÂt know what that red iris is because it was a gift from a friend and she doesnÂt keep labels but I can send you a rhizome if youÂd like.

IÂm really excited about my rugosa standard this year. IÂve been working on this for at least fifteen years and the side stems are finally getting thick enough to really support the flowers. I thought the fuchsia standard looked good on that corner to echo the shape of the rose.

Just look at the amount of buds on this baby! The flowers that are open right now are enormous.

Have a great day all,


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chloehoover(z6b VA)

Good morning! and what pretty photos to greet us -- Deanne, that's neat re the rugosa standard; I had not thought about trying that but they would make good ones - is that Rosa Hansa by any chance? It looks wonderful (do you have it supported by rebar or what?) I've been really happy w/ the performance of the Therese Bugnet I put in just last year - it's grown & bloomed leaps & bounds; it's making me consider trying some others - your standard sure is a neat idea (esp. for gardens that are "spacially" challenged).

Gardenbug - I've had the 90s degree heat & little rain here for about 10 days -all the forecasted storms have fizzled so the clematis are looking stressed & asiatic lilies that just started are already fading.... I hate it too when it goes too quickly - we had such a long, cool Spring Im just not ready for it to be *mid-summer* already!!

Mary -- I had the same thought that Marie did -- wow, Annie looks so much like her lovely mother -- & definitely a young woman -- time sure does fly for kids - why is that when we stay so young???LOL.

Well, Im hoping it's going to rain here today - please! that Home Depot is no longer in charge of its delivery (Marian, please tell 'em for us) -- and that we indeed have a cool weekend so I can catch up on all the gardening I've missed.

V- sorry you're so tired - I've had same problem at ofc too & no time for the yard at nite - hopefully you can have time to rest & garden this weekend - & not have too many graduation festivities - by the way, Congrats on your DD's awards!!


    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 9:01AM
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Last evening Kenzie and parents came over. We sat outside. This was the first time this year that Kenzie was able to explore the gardens. What fun she had. Im sure that she is a budding gardener. The first thing she did is smell the flowers. She can even say the word flower. Any chance she had, she would take a stick and dig in the dirt. I picked her a stem of sweet william and she ran around with it, smelling it every once in a while.

Mary, your daughter is so lovely and she sure is growing up.

Deanne, your rose standard is very cool. What rose is it? It looks like Hansa. The fuchsia looks like it is huge. I think Ill be doing good just to get the fuchsias blooming and not dying this year. That Beverly Sills is a lovely color. What a fabulous start to my morning to see such lovely garden pictures.

Cindy, I have both Hansa and Therese Bugnet and they are vigorous growers for me.

I have the day off and it is as the quote goes, a perfect day. Sunny and no wind. They are talking 86 though. I hope to accomplish lots. We do need to go to a picnic tonight because Ricks sister is here from Arizona. Ill have to take a few pictures today.

Off to the garden.

A picture of my first ever tree peony bloom.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 9:13AM
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vtskiers(z6a CentralCT)


Why didn't someone tell me it was going to be 90 F and humid before I took yesterday off to move compost in the SUN? Good grief, whatever happened to seasonable weather? By 2:30 I was dying to get into the shower and get ready for the dentist. How bad is that? Then the rain came with lightning like I don't ever remember and the temps dropped 20 degrees. As usual, the first flush of roses is toast.

Deanne, the grass is Miscanthus 'Morning Light'. It doesn't really get enough sun in that spot but it's relatively small and not as floppy as most Miscanthus so it works. The Weigela is probably 3-4' tall and 4-5' wide. I rarely prune it except around the bottom so I can get the leaves out in the spring. To prune Wiegelas properly you need to take the oldest stems out right to the base every year after flowering.

I'm actually struggling with plant combinations this year. Last night I was looking at the fountain garden from the second floor and realized the whole right side is a mass of just green foliage-no contrast in texture or color at all. How did I let that happen? I know I should let it be now until fall but I can't so I'm going to have to move a couple of perennials and find something to sub in there with a bit more pizazz. It's supposed to rain tomorrow morning so I think I'll blow up to VFN and see what's interesting. Yesterday at one of the nurseries I went to from the dentist, I found an interesting Angelica-not A. gigas. I'll have to pull the tag and google it. For the most part though, I've been disappointed in the local nursery offerings this year. Even the coleus selection seems to be lacking and the prices are outrageous everywhere.

Mary, Annie does look very grown up in that picture. More so than what I remember even a month ago.

OK, gotta run. Deep peace to Bruce and his family.


    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 9:31AM
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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Just a quickie!

I don't want to panic anyone, but I'm worried about Marian. I've emailed her twice and didn't hear from her. I called her twice this morning and no answer. It could be she's just busy; she may be out running errands...
But I'm worried. I have to go right now to run errands, but I will try to call her again after I get back.


    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 9:35AM
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Hi Ei, hopefully all is okay with Marian and she is just out running errands. She has mentioned trouble with her computer and I wondered if that was the reason we haven't seen a post from her for the last couple of days. I'll watch for your update and hope all is well.


    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 10:39AM
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Hi again......a few of the elk came through a couple times this morning. One of the males has new antlers, covered in velvet...beautiful! I couldn't get a close picture with my new Canon 30D (I *need* a zoom lens!! lol) but I did use my very old Olympus CZ-700 with zoom and since I was able to brace the camera against the windowpane, I didn't get blurring. I enjoy having digital cameras!

I hope the day is going well for everyone....I'd better get back to laundry & mopping the floors. :oP


    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 2:16PM
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Marian_2(Z6 ARKozarks)

Oh dear me ! I'm sorry I have caused a panic! I have been gone a bunch. I don't know why I am not recieving Eileen's e-mails. I have been recieving at least one 'bad' e-mail each day, and blocking them. That shouldn't effect the ones from you gals.

This morning I had a follow-up appointment with my eye doc. Then I took Nolon to the Denture place to have his dentures adjusted. After that I took him to his barber.We were gone all forenoon...stopped and ate lunch at the local store.

I got an excellent report from the eye gal. I don't return for 6 months, unless I have a problem.

Taryn, I am so sorry that Scott had to go, but I am happy that life can go on for Gigi and their children.I hope there is lots of happiness in their future.

Deanne, yes , that plant is a Streptocarpus,aka streptocarpella. It is one of my favorite plants.
I keep neglecting to tell you how happy I am with the coleus. The Sedona gets prettier and prettier, and so do the others. I didn't realize, when I first got them, how pretty they would get.

LOL, you gals...... I am not doing any cooking except my normal day by day cooking. Actually not even much of that lately, dispite the new range. I am sure having to learn how to use this one. It is so differant. I am disppointed in it's failure to brown the tops of the biscuits. I hope it is only because I am not waiting long enough for it to preheat. I'd hate to exchange it, but I don't care for the computerized oven! I did buy a frozen coconut pie in town yesterday ( yes, I went to town yesterday, too, and got a perm.).
( By the way...I AM burning the hashbrowns! lol )

Kisses to Ei and T for your concern...;-)


    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 2:29PM
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deanneart(z5Southern NH)

A quick heads up guys, the HD's here in town are running a sale on all their 10" hangers for $6.99. They have some HUGE fuchsia, tuberous begonias, ivy geraniums, geraniums etc. They've just come in so they are all in beautiful shape. I've never seen fuchsias that large for that cheap a price. It is almost what I paid for my tiny starts from the nursery this spring. Be back later...

    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 3:00PM
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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Whew...well that's a big relief! Thanks Marian for checking in...I'm *so* glad that you're okay. It's not your fault...just surprised I couldn't reach you by phone or email. Not surprised about the email though now that I think about it...I have had that problem before. Anyway, I am in a rush to get some things done, but just wanted to check on you. TTYAL! Ei

    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 3:01PM
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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

LOL Deanne...you may be right about the intervention! :-) Thanks for the "heads up" though...wish I could get there today, but on the run. Will catch up with all of you later...enjoyed all the beautiful pics though and Michelle your tree peony is gorgeous...Is that Orion, by any chance? Bye! Ei

    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 3:04PM
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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

Here's a quick update on today's progress in the veg garden. The 'clematis walk' is now completed! Added the top rails today and also stapled the chicken wire to each section. Even planted 12 clematis there. Lots more soil to be wheelbarrowed in still, but you get the picture I think. Can't wait until the wood ages and all is gray.

Just so you know, it is still somewhat of a vegetable garden, so I weeded like crazy and planted basil, parsley, cantaloupes, tomatoes and zucchini. Still peppers and eggplant and so on to go!

Time for a bath, then out for pizza!
Phew! A relief to hear from you Marian!:-)

    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 5:06PM
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Ooh la la! Bug. I like that clematis walk. It will soon look like it has always been there. Good Job.

Marian, I'm glad you were just out and about and nothing wrong there.

T, great shot of the elk. I like digital cameras too. Just think what we would all be missing if we didn't have them to share our gardens, etc.

Deanne, thanks for sharing all your lovely plant combos. You give me so much inspiration.

You too Sue. Oh darn you had to make a trip to VFN so you could get that all green bed shaped up. LOL I too missed the seasonal weather this year. Its a lot easier to work when it is cool.

Ei, how is your sister doing?

Michelle, I like your yellow tree peony. I may have to try one of those. I bet Kenzie loved running around the garden and yard.

Cindy, hope you got some rain. It is pretty dry here already. I don't have a good feeling about the summer, the grass already looks bad.

I finally had some time to plant containers today. Those poor annuals have been in their little pots way to long. Still not done though and probably won't get back to it before Monday.

Last weekend I went to my one room grade school reunion. The school was established in 1918 and closed in the 1960s. There were four out of the six kids that were in my class there. There was a 102 year old lady there that was one of the first graduates of the school. 21 students in all attended the reunion. Not bad for a first time deal. It was interesting. So many people I had forgotten about were mentioned, and the crazy and fun things we did. Many of us remembered our teacher falling asleep at noon recess and we stayed far enough away not to wake him so we could play longer.LOL

Anyway one more busy weekend ahead. Hope you all have a good one. Norma

    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 10:22PM
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Monique z6a CT(6a CT)

Taryn, so sorry about Bruce-he's finally at peace. You've been a wonderful friend to him and his family-they're lucky to have you!

Mary, I concur that you're daughter looks just like you. How grown up she is!

Great photos of the spring gardens lately. I enjoy the flowers and foliage so much this time of year before everything gets bug infested and heat burned.

Deanne, is Beverly Sills a rebloomer? I think I read that somewhere. BTW, lovely photos lately.

Sue, you should have taken Wednesday off-it was gorgeous. I like days that I can work outside ALL day. Yesterday was disgusting-I headed in around 4:15, but took many breaks. I was in the sun also. Hubby stained the fence (bought an electric power paint sprayer-what a great piece of equipment) Wed and Thurs and finished a few hours before the rain. He did our side on Wed and the neighbors on Thurs so if the rain caused any probs with the stain, the neighbor will have to look at it-what a shame (they are the ones with the dog that has attacked my Oliver 3x).

We had this week off, if you haven't already guessed and have been working outdoors with my FIL. Inlaws arrived on Tuesday evening and stay until Sunday.

Marie-great Clematis garden-oh I mean veggie garden. Its going to be gorgeous with Clem blooms-cant wait to see pictures in the upcoming years.

Went to a few nurseries today but didnt find much. I got a Salvia przewalskii (perennial to zone 5)-anyone have experience with it? It had nice large leaves and I thought it would contrast well with small leaf perennials.

    Bookmark   June 2, 2006 at 10:52PM
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deanneart(z5Southern NH)

Good morning everyone,

Well, Im so glad I took the photographs of the rosa rugosa tree the other day because it is absolutely pouring buckets outside and all the flowers that were open on it are now smushed and half the flowers that were on the fuchsia standard have been knocked off. As Sue has repeatedly said, "What ever happened to a gentle rain". I think we are supposed to get two to four inches of rain today. I really feel badly for those in flood prone areas who are just picking up the pieces from the flooding the beginning of May. We are again in a flood watch until six oclock tonight.

So today Im going to go and do a nice two hour upper body, lower body and ab strength training routine at the gym. The nutritionist Ive been working with is also a licensed trainer and she recommended that I alternate my killer cardio workouts with the strength training workouts. She didnt feel that I had to do both on the same day. Im counting calories again and limiting myself to 1,500 per day and well see how I do by the end of the month. She thinks I can get that last 15 pounds off but it is going to take a lot of discipline and be really slow. Im having a bit of trouble getting back into the habit of counting every carrot stick that goes into my mouth but Im really determined to do this. Then Im going to have to see how much effort it takes to stay there! That will be the ultimate goal.

Marian, glad to hear youve just been busy. ~~ I just KNEW youd know the name of that little streptocarpus. I imagine I could take it in as a house plant after the summer is done or better yet start cuttings of it now so I can share some around. ~~ Im so glad to hear you are enjoying the coleus. That Sedona really is very pretty once it starts getting some size. I really love the purple in the new growth. Mine here are doing just fine now that the weather has warmed up. I cant wait to see some of these new cultivars in another month or so. Im growing most of them as single specimen plants right now because I want to see what they do and how vigorous they are. There are a couple of them, Apocalypse and Bronze Pagoda that look like they are going to be enormous plants. I just love a really vigorous grower for the big containers.

T, what a lovely shot of that bull elk. I really love the look of antlers in velvet. ~~ Have you planted any containers up with your coleus?

Monique, so terrific to hear from you. I sure hope you are taking photographs of your spring gardens to share with us. I think of you every morning when I get up and see my Globemaster allium in the sundial garden. I planted those after seeing yours the first time I visited. The Gladiators in the Driveway Garden got super tall this year and Id really like to move one of the clumps. Have you ever done that? Im assuming the best time would be when they finish blooming. ~~ I dont believe Beverly Sills is a rebloomer. It never has for me but the flowers are just the most delicious shade of pink. ~~ You should see the Persicaria polymorpha this year. It is going to be HUGE!

Cindy, I dont know what variety that rugosa is. It was given to me in the early 1980s by the gardening dad of one of my girlfriends. It was a sucker off his plant. Id visited his garden and was entranced by the scent of that rose and think of Janet and her dad (who passed away ten years ago now) every day that blooms. Yesterday I was sitting on the patio and could smell that rugosa from twenty-five feet away. RE supporting it, not rebar but I have it supported by one of those metal fence posts youd use to put up a wire fence. If it didnt lean toward the sun the trunk is now sturdy enough to stand on its own.

Michelle, how neat Kenzie is turning into a budding gardener. I love the image of her with her stick digging in the soil. Too fun. Doesnt she have her own mini trowel set to dig with? Im sure shed love to help you move the plants around. LOL ~~ Yes that fuchsia standard is getting pretty big this year and what is even more exciting to me is that the trunk is getting some real thickness to it. I had to loosen up the ties because they were cutting into the trunk. Some of the new growths are so stocky and have real substance. That is the one big difference Ive noticed with the fuchsia that are on their third year now. The new growth is much heavier and robust than the first year plants. ~~ That tree peony blossom is absolutely gorgeous!

Sue, thanks for the ID on the grass. Id like to find that and incorporate it someplace, maybe in the new and expanded mailbox garden area. ~~ You should see the Weigela French Lace this year. It is very happy in its location and blooming its head off right now. Thanks muchly! ~~ LOL about suddenly seeing a blank spot of similar foliage in the garden. I have a few of those and every year this time I think Im going to do something about it but then dont want to disturb things until they bloom and then in the fall Im too tired. And so it goes. ~~ I totally agree that prices this year at the nurseries are completely off the charts expensive.

Bug that clematis walk is going to be fantastic!!!! It reminds me a bit of some of those arbors at the rose garden in CT with the Jackmanii.

Norma, your class reunion sounds interesting and a lot of fun. How neat you did that and connected with some of the people you went to grade school with.

OK time is flying away here while Im having coffee and composing this post. Have a great day all,

    Bookmark   June 3, 2006 at 8:46AM
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vtskiers(z6a CentralCT)

Yup, it never just rains anymore. We're actually getting beneficial rain right now-fairly heavy but not so much that it's damaging anything. Let's hope it stays that way. By the sound of things, gorgeous weather will return for Monday-figures. Most of my roses were in full bloom so it's disappointing to see all the ruined flowers but what are you going to do? I'm off to Variegated Foliage Nursery this morning-maybe even Quackin' Grass if I feel like doing the extra driving.

Marie, I wish I had room for a Clematis walk-that sounds fabulous and looks even better.

Norma, I was in an old wooden schoolhouse up until 4th grade. It had 4 rooms-one for each grade 1-4. Lunch was served in the downstairs hallway. In March or April of 4th grade they closed the school completely and switched us all to the closest large new grammar school(at the time there were 13 grammar schools in my city). I remember we cried and cried. Now when I go to HS reunions (my HS class was 650 people) the people I tend to band together with are those from the original group I've known since 1st grade at McGarr School. At the last reunion we had quite a few from that crowd.

T, that elk shot does not look like it was taken through a window. You did a great job of holding the camera steady. So far the only wildlife I've seen around here this morning besides the grackles who have fledglings and are particularly noisy, is a chipmunk who just scurried across the patio steps.

All righty then, time to get going.


    Bookmark   June 3, 2006 at 9:18AM
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Marian_2(Z6 ARKozarks)

Good morning all.....

Well, I am not happy with my new range. The computerized oven just is not working to suit me. It takes forever to preheat. I'm sure that is because only the bottom burner comes on when set on 'bake'. That is also why the tops of the biscuits do not brown right. I want an oven that you just turn the knob to the heat that you want, without all that poking of a button ! Anyway, you know that the computerized system will be the first thing to go.
Sooo... I will return to the store and pick out another brand, and have them bring it in exchange.

Mary, I agree with all that the others have said about Annie. She is a daughter to be proud of. I haven't seen my 12 1/2 year old GD, Savannah, for a long time, and suspect she is becoming a young lady also.

Michelle, we need a pic of Kensie 'working' in the garden. :-) Your tree peony is beautiful.

Deanne, I love your standards. I have never attempted that. A few of my plants sort of turn out that way, but not because of my expertise. I wish I could give you the exact name for your streptocarpus, but there are many cultivars. Yours may be a dwarf variety. Mine has become about 3' wide and 18" tall. It hangs all around the large pot that it is in.

Marie, that looks like a lot of work! The arbors will be gorgeous when covered with clems.
My 2 lasagne beds down the middle of my former veg garden haven't progressed at all. I am keeping the weeds down along the sides, and need to eliminate some that came up in my compost that I put in part of it.

Teresa, that is a great view of the elk. I guess they are as bad as the local deer when it comes to damaging trees while rubbing off the velvet. We have had some of ours damaged.A buck with short points has been hanging around our yard.
I haven't seen this year's fawns yet, but saw the hoof prints in mud in our circle drive awhile back. Nolon saw a tiny new born the other day while walking up the road. The does are raising cain when they see our cats. I guess they think they are a threat to the fawns.

Sorry about the 90s that some of you are suffering. We have cooled down to more seasonal temps, in fact this morning felt quite cool. It was mid 50s. Sorry that some are getting too much rain, again. We got a little less than an in a couple of days ago.

I finally got my EE set out into the tub in the island. I started it in a gallon pot. I am disappointed with the caladiums. None of the white ones have came up. I was hoping to have a display like last year, with the long planter full of white ones. The red and pink ones are slow, but some have unfurled the first leaf, and the others have the tips showing.

Cindy, I hope you got the rain that you needed, and a cool weekend.LOL, on the HD referral...:-)

Hi Norma, glad you found time to 'talk' to us. What fun... a grade school reunion. I don't think I've heard of one before. My grade school building has been turned into a farmer's storage building. :-( It was shut dowm many years ago.

Sue, I went to a one room schoolhouse from the first through the eigth grades. We carried our own lunches. ( I wish I still had my lunch box. It got lost in one of our moves. ) How sad about the closing of your school. I graduated, and the next day we moved to a new farm near a small town that was much larger than the community that I grew up in. The high school with over a thousand students was quite a culture shock! And naturally everyone was a stranger. That was 60 years last month!


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Good Morning Idylls!

Ahhhh, I can finally breath...what a crazy day yesterday! Running around like a chicken with its head cut off (thank goodness Ive never actually seen this)! Anyway, its so nice to see Marian is doing fine and burning her hash browns! :-) Glad to hear everything is going smoothly with your eyes too. Is your new stove electric or gas? Im assuming because its "computerized" you mean electric, although my gas has electric components? Have you always had electric stoves? I have a hard time cooking on them. My mom always had a gas one and since I learned on hers, I never could get use to electric.

Mary your daughter has turned into a beautiful young woman, right before our eyes...and Ive only been Idylling for about 2 years? (I think) :-) Amazing how quickly they mature. She is a sweetheart, both in spirit and in looks...you must be very proud! :-)

T...your Elk is so handsome! I saw some elk once when I was in Wyoming, but I have never seen them with velvet...that is gorgeous! I had to find out what the velvet was and what caused it (so many things I learn through being at the Idylls). Found out a lot I didnt know about Elk, for instance, did you know that Elk can weigh as much as 700 lbs. and can be up to 5 feet tall at the shoulder...Yikes!? Anyway, according to one website: "....male elk grow antlers each year in spring and the growth is stimulated by increasing daylight. The antlers do not turn into bone until late summer and the velvet is a soft protective layer that helps the blood flow. The velvet falls off or is rubbed off the antlers by males in August when the antlers are full grown." Thanks T for sharing the beautiful picture!

Deanne, I meant to tell you how much I enjoyed those lines from your opening post...such a beautiful poem! In fact, your post made me want to go back and read the whole poem again, which I did. Its a beautiful poem! You are amazing..."Rugosa Rose Standards"...I am totally in awe! BTW, I *too* like the echo of the fuchsia standard in front of it! I am also very impressed and inspired by your dedication to keeping fit. And you said to me once you dont have patience! You have patience and determination that I only *wish* I could muster.

Michelle we have been having beautiful weather here these last two days. Just the perfect weather, sunny, with temps in the 70s low 80s...I dont like *hot*! The only thing that could make even more perfect is a gentle rain in the a.m. or evening. Never satisfied! :-) But really, truly I am. This beautiful weather has put me in a great mood. Yes, I am still working on my attitude and I dont want to get too confident, but really, I think I already see an improvement...Im just happier! :-) BTW Thanks Michelle for your sweet words. Ill tell you a secret...Im actually pretty nervous about you guys coming. I tend to lean towards spring (which happens to be my favorite season) and am not so great with the summer garden.

Hi Norma! I think that is *so* cool that you attended a one room grade school...really? I would love to hear about that, if you can share, without giving much away....you know, the axe murderers and all. BTW, thanks for asking about sis! She is doing okay, I think... at least we are all hoping so. I was with her yesterday and she looks good! She has even started doing some of her work from home and I think its actually doing her good to have something else to focus on. She will have chemo until at least the end of July, maybe the first week of August. Shes a strong lady and a wonderful sister.

Sue I think its so neat that you went to a small grade school too. I think those days may long gone. My son went all the way through grade with no more than 10-12 students in a class. That was a *real* blessing and I just loved the close knit feel of it. That school was closed down to make for a bigger school a little further away the year after my son graduated. Im just so grateful that he was able to have that experience.

Marie...I hope some day we have a Canadian Idyllunion...I want so much to see your property...I just know I would fall in love! And maybe we could even get to see Taryns *new* gardens in her *new* home! Hope thats going well for you Taryn! And Yeona too...wouldnt that be cool? Anyway, the clematis walk is *fabulous* and in my minds eye I can already see it covered in your gorgeous clematis. That is going to be one *BEEAUTIFUL* vegetable garden!

Well Cindy, here are some of my herbaceous peonies...I hope you arent sorry you encouraged me...LOL! :-) I was going to post these last night, but it took so long just to choose which ones and upload them to PT. Anyway, I started to make a separate post and then realized even with that it was *way* too many pictures, so I decided to just post a few of my favorites (favorite peonies not pictures - Im not the greatest photographer). I tried to do mostly close ups cause they just werent showing up very well in long shots. Also added a few irises and roses! :-) Im sorry, Im just enjoying everything so much and wanted to share. Hope you all dont mind so many pics. Im only keeping them up for the day. So anyway...

Sara Bernhardt:

Illini Warrior:

Scarlett OHara:

Coral Charm:

Elsa Sass with Dictamnus. I couldn't get a good pic of Elsa, but she is a beautiful white with a wonderful fragrance:

Krinkled White: The urn is a Deanne enablement. Ive never really had much ornament in my garden, but when I saw how beautiful her gardens looked with the urns and pots, I decided to buy this one when I saw it at the Maxx. :-)

Kansas w/Nora Barlow Aquilegia:

Next to the compost heap Iris Victoria Falls with white allium:

Unknown iris was given to me as a freebie with some others that I bought....

I love the dusky purple of Pattys Plum with the dusky orange of iris 'Lotus Land', but I need more of 'Lotus Land' to make more of a show...hope to buy some in July:

Iris Lady Friend with Baptisia Purple Smoke':

Iris pallida Variegata with Rose Therese Bugnet. Here's an iris I love because of the foliage, although the flowers are pretty too! :-)

Sunsprite & Daybreaker Rose Standards. The rose standards are always the first ones to flower in my garden (they start while still in the garage)! The sunsprites are at least 10 years old. Daybreaker is new to me as of last year. She's full of buds, but they haven't opened yet.


William Baffin:

Well Im off to do some deadheading and weeding, hubbys class will be here tomorrow for a barbecue and Ive been racing around trying to spiff things up a bit. Have a great week-end all! Ei

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Marian_2(Z6 ARKozarks)

Oh WOW ! Eileen ! What beauty ! You are right up with the best when it comes to gardening, and garden designs.
Yes, my range is electric. I have always had electric, except for briefly when we lived in a mobile home in Springdale, Ark. , in the 60s.

BTW, I keep forgetting to ask....did anyone have any success with the Iris cristata that I sent you last fall? I know they do not make a spectacular plant, and may not have bloomed this year, but I wonder if they even 'took'.

I have a hamburger casserole in the oven. I pretty much improvised with it since I was minus some of the recipe's ingredients. "The proof of the pudding will be in the eating." Since it is so cool today, I may pop the coconut pie in later, and see what it does to the crust.


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Marian...I feel you've been bamboozled! LOL! :-) Thanks you are so sweet, but I really don't feel like such a great gardener or designer, but that's okay, I love my garden and I *love* spring!

:-( I didn't want to say anything because I knew you would be disappointed for me...I'm so disappointed myself...Iris cristata didn't make it. They started looking pretty good and I must have been lulled into a false sense of security because they didn't show up this year. I knew *exactly* where they were too, cause I planted them right in front of the rock that has our address on it. I feel so bad. I should have watched them more carefully with the lousy drought we had last year!

Enjoyed reading about tonight's dinner! Hamburger casserole sounds very satisfying right now and a coconut pie sounds delicious too! :-) Aren't you enjoying this lovely weather? It's sunny, but cool here too. We are to get more rain next week and I'm all for it! :-)

Well, I better get moving, got more weeding and deadheading to do and just came in for a quick break. Have a wonderful day! :-) Hope the casserole and the coconut pie are a major success!


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Hi everyone. Get thee to the Maine gardening forum ASAP, funny things happen when spelling errors occur... try to off a few suggestions, too... please?

(wiping the tears from my eyes) Tell David whatever the number is, too!

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honey_mi(Z5 MI)

Hi yall. Weve been in vendor/contractor h***. What a week! I didnt want to inflict myself on anyone b/c I was in such a foul mood. And in between phone calls and trouble shooting, I tried to grab a few minutes in the garden. Ive significantly reduced my plant ghetto, but havent finished yet.

First, thru the new heat record for this area during the holiday weekend, weve been without A/C. As of today 8 days later we still dont have A/C! This is the 3rd yr. for this top-of-the-line new furnace- A/C unit and each year weve had trouble w/it at start-up. This year was the worst. During the worst of the heat, DH and I spent a couple hrs. everynite with two hairblowers, defrosting the 4" thick block of ice on the basement unit, just so wed get some air flow and could sleep. After my hounding the co daily, I finally got someone here Thurs. A critical valve failed and a new OEM one had to be overnighted from the distributor. Well, the part arrived Friday and it was the wrong one. Then they told me it would arrive this am and it didnt. I really have the feeling they lied to us about the arrival time of the part. Im beside myself with frustration trying to get this fixed. The problem is that we have to stay w/this co. b/c of the warranty. Grrrr.

Next, DH hasnt been able to get our propane-powered mosquito remover running. This is the third season for it. Last yr. we couldnt get it started and the co. sent us a replacement. So this year, we thot wed have no problems wrong. After 9 kagillion calls to service support, replacing the battery, recharging the battery, checking the gas valve, etc, etc., The co. told us to return the "head" and theyd send us another new one. Thus, while trying to get some relief from the oppressive heat in the house, weve been eaten alive outside. They like me best. I just hate bites on my hands, ankles and neck!

Then theres the sprinkler system. All last weekend and most of today, weve been digging around trying to find out what happened to it. Poor DH. Hes pretty frustrated. Weve found most of the heads and what zone theyre in, but weve had a myriad of leaks, kinks, Mt. St. Helens eruptions, etc., etc. Hes got another day of work tomorrow, at least.

I also went thru it with the paver contractor re adjusting payment due to the damage to our driveway with their Bobcat. Thank goodness I took pix.

Meanwhile, we met with the landscape designer last weekend and havent heard a peep from him since. He was supposed to make some changes, take some measurements and get back to us. Oh well.

While all this was going on, the weeds have taken over my garden and the new planting area out front. So I weeded, preened and today I finished covering the open soil out front with mulch. I still have about 10 bags of mulch in my truck for the back. Weve been fighting T-showers all day.

Also, Bullet isnt doing well. Im sure Ill have to take him into the vet next week again to see if theres more that can be done. He had 2 days of sub-q fluids this week. I hope we can keep him around for awhile longer. I love this kitty and cant face whats happening to him..

Lastly, were finalizing plans with the family re our family reunion type vacation in Hilton Head over the 4th of July.

Ill be back regularly when things calm down a bit here. Its been a zoo and Ive been cranky. Thinking of all of you. TTYL,


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taryn(S Ontario Z6B)

What a visual treat with all these lovely pics! Thanks for sharing you guys! Well I don't have time for a long post, 2 kids sleeping over to add to our crew of 3, so I'll let the pictures do the talking:

Meet our home's new owners, Alan and Sandy! We celebrated with a toast once the paperwork was done:

Glenn found 2 quarters in the driveway when they were putting up the sold sign, and Sandy told me she'd just read that is someone who's passed on giving you a positive sign. Thanks Bruce!

Our neighbor signed as our witness and Alan and Sandy have already have been invited to swim any time in their inground pool, and have compared and approved of each other's brands of beer! Alan and Sandy actually found us through Privaterealestate.ca, who we originally listed with, not MLS or the article. I'm sure our agent will be glad it's sold too, after nearly 8 months, whichever way they found us! Article linked below, it's a large file. Tomorrow we put in an offer on the 2.5 acre garden (I mean home, lol!)


T :)))

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Man oh man has it ever poured rain today. Weve gotten 3.25 inches of rain since Thursday. Now why in the world couldnt that have been spread over the next three weeks? Jeesh!

Sue so how did you make out at VFN today?? Anything great and wonderful jump into your cart today?

Marian, bummer that your new range isnt working out for you. ~~ How neat your streptocarpus is so large! Id love to see that blooming. Oh yes, the Iris cristata you sent is just now sending up some green growth. I sure hope it gives me a flower.

Eileen!!!! Wow oh wow! Your photographs are awesome please dont take them down. Ive opened this thread several times today to come back and look at your spring garden photographs. That combination with the Coral Charm and allium is fabu! And your Dictamnus is incredible. You have so many gorgeous peonies. I wish I had more room in the sun for them. I have limited area to plant them where theyd do well here. And that urn, Neat-o! The Iris Lady Friend with the Baptisia Purple Smoke is oooo-la-la! You guys are all enabling me. I went and bought a Purple Smoke. I cant wait until it blooms next year. Now please tell me about how you take care of your rose standards over the winter. Do you do anything special to winterize them before you put them in the garage? Are they mini roses or hybrid teas? All your photographs are simply gorgeous and have lots and lots of great ideas. Thanks for taking the time to share all this eye candy with us.

Chelone, OMG toooooo.. funny!

Honey, What a hideous mess with all the breaking down of all the equipment that you are in dire need of right now. Id be frothing at the mouth angry with all the incompetence and things not working when they should. ~~ So very sorry that Bullet isnt doing well. I sure hope he rallies soon. ~~ Thanks for checking in even if youre cranky. Id say you have more than ample reason to be cranky. I would be too. I sure hope things straighten out for you soon.

Taryn, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! That is just fantastic. You must be so relieved and happy that the house finally sold.

OK Im swiftly turning into a pumpkin and need to get myself to bed.

Nite all,

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CONGRATULATIONS TARYN & GLEN!!!! Hey,did I not tell you Bruce would pull some strings? : ) That is just fantastic-they look like nice people too.(I'm usually nice too though when offered champagne; ) What a relief for you both.

Poor Honey! Hey you just need Marian to talk to these repair/landscape people-she'd straighten them out; )
I do miss you popping in here. I hope you find time to show us how the garden is doing and just keep in touch.

Ei! Thanks for showing us those pics of your color and design magic; ) Don't knock yourself down-you've got talent!Anyone who can grow rose standards is very talented in my book lol.
I'm glad to hear your sis is doing well-hope that continues at a steady pace through all this. Good for her that she feels like working from home-feeling productive probably does help her cope.

The talk about past days when Sue and Norma had such small class sizes is something that we've got happening right now. AJ's in a Catholic school and the numbers there are dwindling. He had 32 kids in Kgarten and now at grade 4 he's got 17 but by next year about half a dozen kids are leaving. The up factor is that he is really close to all his class but by next year there will be only 3 boys so it's a bummer that he doesn't have many boy friends to choose from.On the other hand, he is very respectful toward girls because there are so many so it's been a good lesson for him. Sue,we are afraid his school will merge with one nearby that is huge. I imagine it being very hard to accept if it does happen. I just really like the personal family-like setting his school has.Hopefully he would remain close to his original classmates like you mention.

Chelone-are you instigating trouble again?; )

Busy day here-hedge shearing then tending to the MIL.

May I pose a question to y'all? OK(assuming you said yes)I have gift certificates from a nursery I need to use: ) I could probably get three or four perennials(or is that perineals; ). What are your 'must haves' that really make your garden shine in midsummer-or most of summer???? Since I had that tree chopped down I now have sunny as well as shadey gardens so I have many possibilities. Any thoughts about what your favorite three performers are would be so appreciated.

What do you know, my skin is turning orange and squash-like! Deanne's pumpkin transormation is CONTAGIOUS!!!

~Babs....time to summon my fairy godmother lol

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Friday was a good day with much accomplished. All the containers are finished, the remaining odd plants have been tucked in here and there in the gardens and the potting area is neat and tidy. Today I went to DD to help her plant some perennials that I donated to their landscaping. They have no grass yet, only dirt as they wanted to build the retaining wall and use a small tractor. When the hose made a little mud puddle, guess who fell in? No not me. Kenzie had old clothes on and her "Dora" trowel and cultivator and was a great help to us. We hit 96 today which is just too much too soon. My mom and I went to a ladys garden in the country where they were holding a plant sale for a non-profit group. She offered a tour of her gardens, which were very nice. I did buy a few plants to help the cause. LOL We also stopped at a nursery that has fabulous annuals. I looked at the coleus and was very tempted, but I kept telling myself that I am out of containers and all the containers are finished. I did pick up some sun annuals for an area that I hoiked most everything except a rose.
We could use some of the rain that you all are getting. A month ago I didnt think wed ever get dry again, but now with all the heat, the ground is beginning to crack. Its been 2 weeks.

Taryn, congratulations that is such great news. The new owners look happy about it too.

Deanne, funny that you would mention w. French Lace, I planted that one last year and it is blooming quite nicely right now. I picked up a Wine and Roses to replace one that I had a few years ago that died. One of the bunch had coppery colored leaves instead of the dark leaves. I bought that one. I wonder if it is mis-labeled or sick LOL. I liked the color though.

T, before I read what you wrote, I was struck by the soft look of the antlers.

Bug, that clematis walk is something you would see at a public garden. Fantastic!

Ei, what lovely garden pictures. I am so jealous of your Dictamnus, I have 3 blooming, but nothing nearly as dramatic as yours. I saw it on a gardening show one time and just knew I needed to grow that plant. I absolutely love your freebie iris. Iris pallida Variegata is a plant that the first time I saw it I knew I had to have it. Thanks for the update on your sister.

Babs, Ill have to think on that. I read your post just before I posted this and its 11 p.m. my brain is fried. (96 today LOL)

Hi to all.

Night all

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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

Oh Taryn, now you can move on! Congratulations! So smart to sell before making an offer.

Marian, sorry for the stove problems, but you are right. The first thing to go on ours was the digital clock which has a piece of black hockey tape over it so that we don't get confused by the wrong time! Very elegant, LOL.

Babs, your question deserves a good answer. Here is mine, haha!
1. Clematis! There is one for every situation, and now with more sun, you should go for it. Just name a size and colour and I'll tell you what to spring for. Perhaps Arabella, which you could either train upwards or allow to weave through other plants. It has a nice long period of bloom, just ask Deanne!
2. Another plant which lasted for an incredibly long time for me is Veronica 'Pink Damask'. It was a blooming machine!
3. Of course, if you have incredible patience, get a good sized gas plant...or 3! In 3-4 years they will make an amazing statement!
4. Baptisia is another, slow to start, but beautiful. (Doesn't like to be moved though)
5. Ordinary old echinacea is great too.

Think about colour and ultimate size, water, etc...before you spring for them.

Much to accomplish outside today. Hope it isn't too soggy to work!

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deanneart(z5Southern NH)

Good morning all,

A dreary and cold day here, can you even believe it Michelle? We arent supposed to get out of the 50s today. I just took a quick walk-about and the iris are mush-no hope there for a few more blooms, Ive got leaves on a lot of things starting to yellow and look lousy, the Knockout rose which just began to open two days ago is pounded into the dirt and the beautiful rhododendron which would have gone on another week or so is pretty much past. It rained so hard it just broke the flowers off and drilled holes in some of them. As Da says Le sigh. Such is gardening. There is no perfection so when we get those fleeting glimpses of our vision coming to pass it makes it all the more special.

Michelle, I LOL about Kenzie falling into the only mud puddle! ROTFLOL. Now you cant tell me she didnt plan that one. ~~ Now, we need to have a discussion here, if there are fabu coleus and you dont have any more containers you get the fabu coleus and then have to go and buy more containers, then of course you find a couple unique containers you just cant live without on sale and you have to pick up just a couple more annuals for them. You see how that goes? Just ask Eden. Arr, har, har guffaw! ~~ Now to be serious, I sure hope you get some relief from the heat soon and also get some gentle rain. I know what you mean about not thinking things will ever dry out. After we got that 11 inches of rain the beginning of May I had to start watering the gardens a couple weeks later. They were beginning to get totally dried out after two weeks of no rain and high 80s for temps.

Babs, so difficult to name favorites (I have so many) but here goes;

1. My absolutely number one super duper performer is just a plain old Heliopsis helianthoides. It is a nice tall plant with good looking foliage. I have a clump in my sundial garden that has been there for 11 years and it still looks as good as new, even better. Ive never divided it. If you deadhead it you wont get babies and if you want seedlings just leave the flowers on the plant. Each flower that opens lasts for weeks and when they do fade there are plenty more to take their place. It opens its first flowers around mid June and will have flowers right through until frost. It is relatively pest and disease free. The only problem Ive ever had is it gets aphids from time to time. The heliopsis is the yellow flowered plant right under the bird house.

Now, if you want variegated foliage H. Lorainne Sunshine out of this world and into the next. Then only reason I dont recommend this as a number one choice is that it isnt as vigorous or long lived as the other.

2. My second favorite all time favorite for me is, as Marie says, Clematis Arabella. Ive only had it three years now but it has never looked anything but great. It opens its first flowers early June, my second Arabella in the rose garden has had flowers for a week now, and my plant on the arch next to the Sundial Garden has had flowers right through September. It is a fantastic, soft blue-violet color and mixes with everything. As Bug said you can either train it up a trellis for a vertical accent or let it sprawl.

3. Third favorite is Phlox paniculata Nora Leigh. It looks beautiful from the second it emerges in the spring because of its variegated foliage. Ive never had a bug or disease problem with it. It has been long lived for me, my trio of Nora in the Terrace Garden have been there for eight years or so, Ive never had to divide them.

If you dont want the variegated foliage David is also a fantastic cultivar.

4. Salvia May Night blooms early, looks great, doesnt need dividing if you deadhead it or shear it back it will re-bloom.

OK Ive been sitting here too long and Ive got a lot to get accomplished today. Have a great day everyone.


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Good morning

Taryn and Glen - many, many congratulations. This was obviously meant to be and I hope worth the long wait.

GORGEOUS pics everyone!

Honey - commiserations on the frustrations of the week.

Babs - I ditto the above suggestions with possibly an unusual butterfly bush if you have enough sun. I just got a biclor one I'm excited about.

Yesterday was bitter sweet for me. I spent the morning purchasing the hardscape items for a Memorial Garden for Susan and the girls which will be in the courtyard of David's Elementary school, funded by the PTSA. My first real design outside my own yard and I'm nervious as anything. However, things are off to a good start. I was able to get a beautiful granite bench, stone lantern, bamboo trellis and 2 Fu dogs sculptures from a garden center who gave us a very generous discount. I then chose 3 beautiful Japanese Maples from the nursery I took Deanne and Sue to. Things will be delivered next week and I'll start planting.

In the afternoon there was a butterfly release in memory of the family at the High School organized by Christina's tennis team. Over 500 painted lady butterflies had been purchased (raising more money for the scholarship fund). They were presented to each person in a folded envelope and after a dedication all released together, while a cello trio played. It was rather cold and windy so they didn't fly off immediately but fluttered onto peoples clothing until they warmed up. Fortunately the torrential rain we've had on and off all weekend held off. It was very special and the kids loved it. Taryn - this might be something to consider for Bruce.

Today I'm hoping the rain will clear for David's LL game but I have a feeling I might be forced into doing laundry and cleaning house. Sun - where are you?

Have a good day everyone


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Whoo hoo Taryn! Thats wonderful news...Im *so* excited for you...Congratulations! Of course you know, now that your home is sold, you will have hundreds of people wanting to put in an offer. :-) I couldnt be happier for you...you certainly deserve it after all your hard work.

LOL...isnt that funny Michelle? Thats one of my favorite iris too. I like it even better than the ones I bought! Wish I knew its name, Id like to *buy* more. Just wait Michelle...your Dictamnus are going to be just as wonderful...this is one plant that only gets better with age! I love it too and am patiently waiting for my white one to mature! :-) P.S. Sorry about the heat! I sure hope you do get rain and hope we do too. My gardens dry out *so* fast!

Thanks Deanne! I really dont do anything special for the rose standards. Treat them just like all the other roses...feed for the last time the first week of August and then just before putting them to bed I water them in real well and then bring them into the garage around the end of October (depending on our weather and hard frost predictions). I check for dryness in December (leave them on the dry side, but not completely dry). Then start checking more regularly in Feb. or March. Once I see some greening up coming along, I start watering a little more regularly, but try to keep them from actually getting too lush in the garage. Some years though, they have a mind of their own and are determined to "green up" - sometimes even forming flower buds by April whether Ive been watering or not. Sunsprite is an unbelievably tolerant, healthy plant and I think Day Breaker may end up being the same way, as it behaved just as well as Sunsprite in the garage. Sunsprite & Day Breaker are both floribundas and I wonder if that has anything to do with their good behavior. In the garage I put them near the only window. Our garage is not heated, but Paul does have a space heater which he has on a very low setting to control moisture in the garage for his motorcycle. :-) Its never warm in the there, just not freezing. Thanks about the urn. It was a great deal, in the clearance isle. I think no one wanted it because of it wasnt the most attractive color, but I gave it a wash of green and gray and like the way it turned out.

Hi Babs! :-) Great to see you! Congratulations on the concert, btw...and really nice to hear of AJs progress! BTW, I hope you know I *bought* those roses as standards...I couldn't even imagine what it would take to actually train your own...LOL! Im glad you asked that question about perennials for good all summer shows...Ill be interested to hear what everyone recommends too. For me I would says its:

1) *Hardy*, *Disease Resistant* (thats key) roses, like the Knockout varieties, the Carefrees, William Baffin, New Dawn, etc. At least these are the ones that have always done well for me.

2) I really like Coreopsis for its long bloom time and ferny foliage. Moonbeam is still my favorite, though Crème Brulee (new to me) looks like it will be just as nice. I know that some people have problems with coreopsis disappearing on them, but they must like my soil.

3) Like Salvia May Night, Salvia caradonna is a very nice one too, nice, neat, well behaved clumps, long blooming and pretty red stems too. They can reseed a bit though, but easy enough to pull out.

4) Agastache Blue Fortune. This has been with me forever. Long bloomer, attractive foliage, well-behaved and gives a good show, even from a distance. Speaking of Agastache, does anyone remember the name of the Agastache that David had talked about a couple of years ago? It had purple flowers and I bought it a couple of years ago on his recommendation, but cant for the life of me remember its name. I have to get more serious about making a master list of the perennials I have. Now that I'm getting older, I am having a hard time remembering all the names, even though at the time I think I will never forget the name...LOL! Anyway, the one David recommended looks like it will bloom for me this year and Im very excited...could it be Purple Haze?

5) If you have enough shade, I think hostas and ferns *always* look nice. I wish I had more shade, just for that reason.

6) I agree with the Clematis recommendations. Speaking of which...heres a pic for Marie! My only (though I intend to rectify that) small flowering clematis. I'm embarrassed to say, I'm not absolutely positive which one it is, maybe you can help me? I'm pretty sure it is a texensis?, but which one I don't know.

P.S. ((Mary))...the Memorial Garden sounds lovely! The love and thought you put into it is very apparent. Susan and the girls are smiling down on you, Im sure. The butterfly release sounds *so* neat...wish I could have seen it!

Well, have to go, the barbecue starts in a few hours and still have a lot to do. Have a wonderful day everyone!

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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Oops! And how could I have forgotten? Deanne your pictures are stunning...now if those pics don't convince one of your recommendations...what would??! You have *such* a beautiful garden!


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Happy Birthday Sue!

I hope you have a wonderful day! (I'll find a photo and post a nicer greeting later today).

My best to you!

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Thanks ladies: ) I do feel better about things I have in my garden-I figure if idylls have them and like them then I'm not doing too badly; ) I do have ordinary purple Echinacea and thanks to V I now have E purpurea'Razzmatazz'. The new orange one caught my eye-not sure I'm an orange lover but that could be the challenge and it does work with purple(my fave color).
I have Veronica 'Royal candles' of which I love its deep blue color but it's not very vigorous. Maybe 'Pink Damask would be stronger??
I do hear a lot about S.'May Night'and have thought about getting that one. I did get S.'East Friesland' and this is its first year. I always seem to pick the underdogs: )
I do have Baptisia which hated my placement of it. Naturally I then moved it knowing it hated to be moved and it still isn't happy so I don't know if it will ever recover-one stem sticking out of the ground just doesn't cut it for me lol. I do agree that is one worth finding the right place for.
Dictamnus sounds like an interesting one too-definitely one to consider. I'm making up the list right now: )
OK now about clematis. I have always liked the white one that blooms in early fall- Clematis terniflora 'Sweet Autumn'. I think I always get overwhelmed by the types.etc. but a smaller plant would probably be good to start with. I tend to like the bell-shaped clems. I know Marie will guide me. Deanne's Clem is really a pretty one and a nice size. The times I have searched at the nursery for Clematis there wasn't a good selection-I suppose I'd have to mail order to find one I really like. Marie is mail order a good way to buy them?

Deanne-I do like variegated plants and your Phlox pic is beautiful-BTW I truly appreciate you taking the time to add pics to your suggestions-very helpful and of course we all like to see pics anyway: ) I like that your Phlox sounds low maintenance-that's a plus worth considering.

Mary I have Buddleia 'Lochinch' that is so-so for me-it gets gorgeous blooms but it's not nearly as tall as I had hoped. I love the blue-grey fuzzy leaves it gets. It's three years old and has never gotten taller than 3 ft.-I had hoped it would be a screening plant! Am I supposed to be fertilizing it??I was worried that then I'd get more foliage than blooms. Chris has mentioned that a hedge of Buddleia to replace our Forsythia would look cool-imagine the butterflies! It impressed me that he even had a garden thought lol. What is your bicolor Buddleia called?

Hey Ei I wanted to look at your Dictamnus one more time!! That's OK; ) Your pics were great to look at!

Mary it's very obvious that your friends were well loved with so many memorial events going on for them. The butterfly release/cello music gave me goosebumps-such a great gesture. I know you will create a very special and lovely garden in memory of your friends because you're going to plant what comes from your heart. Anything done with love comes out perfect. I'm already anticipating the pics: ) I'll bet there will be a butterfly bush?
So did David get to play?

Yikes it's already past noon!


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

P.S. Hey Babs...What do you mean you don't like orange?!? LOL! Well, I hope Sue likes it...LOL!


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Monique z6a CT(6a CT)

Taryn, congrats congrats. So nice to hear the good news of your house selling and then that you have a house you want to buy.

Eileen, I missed your photos. You should leave them up longer (I bet they were fantastic!)

Mary, how nice that you are designing the garden for Susan and her family. Im sure it will come out great.

Babs, for part shade I would have to say Geranium Rozanne, Persicaria Firetail, and Polemonium reptans Stairway to Heaven (flowers in May-early June, but the variegated foliage looks nice all the time). For sun, hmmm, any Agastache (Ive had good luck overwintering Blue Fortune, rupestris, Tutti-Frutti, Golden Jubilee etc), Clematis,(group 3 only since they dont get wilt which some of my group 2s seems susceptible to), Coreopsis Sweet Dreams, and Nepeta Walkers Low (might take a break during the middle of the summer though). Im sure I forgot more of my faves, but these came to my mind quickly. My Buddleia Lochinch gets to about 5-6 feet every year after being cut to the ground in April. Do you have it in full sun? I dont fertilize anything BTW.

It poured here yesterday, so hubby and I went to 2 nurseries and then lunch. We were close to Variegated Foliage, but it started raining so hard that I lost the motivation. Shame on me. However, I also wanted to hear how their selection was since they are having some health probs this year and they havent updated their website or sent out a catalog. Sue, did you end up going yesterday and how was it?

Im trying to decide whether I want to pinch plants today or plant. It might be too wet to plant, so pinching might be the chore. Of course the back bed still needs to be weeded

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Okay, I want to talk about a couple elephants in the room...probably just with me.

Reading over my post I realized that I kind of poo-pooed Marians very kind compliments on my gardening/gardening skills. Of course I was very flattered that she would say those nice things, but I guess they are hard for me to see. There may be *one* teeny bad thing my dad passed onto me, either through genes or behavior. My father was a truly gifted individual. He built *both* houses my parents lived in; from laying the foundation to installing the electricity. He did stonework that would make a professional mason weep, built furniture like roll top desks right from his own head, renovated old cars, resurrected every appliance my parents ever had 20 years past their life expectancy, and created the most beautiful stained glass works; all his own design and all self taught. Everything my dad did was self taught. And its not just me, his proud daughter who was amazed and impressed by his work. Anyone whoever saw anything my dad did, was astounded and yet my dad, would always say, "Thanks, but its nothing, anyone can do it." He wasnt being self-effacing, he truly believed that! I think a lot of that had to do with his insecurity about his education. Dad never graduated, in fact, didnt attend school after the 6th grade. Well, I would always look at all my father could do and all that he could create and I would hear him say that it was nothing. In my head I was thinking, "Well, if dad doesnt think anything hes done is special, then there is no way I could *ever* do anything that is exceptional." So, I want you just lay it out here now, so that none of you think I am unappreciative of your compliments, that I *am* appreciative and flattered, I just have a hard time accepting them and end up sounding ungracious when they are received. Im sorry about that.

Also, theres another elephant in my room for me and or maybe some of you have felt it too for different reasons. Sometimes, I feel like I am not really part of the gang here. Not that I dont like you all very much and not that *all* of you arent the kindest, sweetest people and have *always* been very kind to me, its just that a lot of the time I feel like I am *different*, outside the group, seem to put my foot in my mouth a lot, not very clever like so many of you, spell horrible, write like Im thinking in my head, goofy...

Okay, Ive said it all I feel better now! :-)

P.S. Sorry Monique, but I didn't want to tie up the dial ups, plus Paul wants to upload pics from the party today and I only have the smallest version of PT.

Well, 1 hour till the guests arrive...so Im going now. Have a wonderful day all! Ei

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Sue, I hope you enjoy the day.

I know we need the rain, but why on the weekend??? At least I got some much-needed housework and laundry done yesterday. I was outside for a while this afternoon, but the drizzle just kept getting heavier. At the point where I would have needed windshield wipers for my glasses, I gave up and went inside.

Taryn, my sympathies to your and your family on the loss of your friend Bruce. At least he is at peace now. On a lighter note, I am so glad you finally sold your house!!

Deanne, I love the rosa rugosa standard. I always think of that rose growing as a wild hedge at the beach, you have made it very refined! The rain has pretty much ended the iris show here too. So, how many more fuchsia did you pick up at HD?! I'm excited about the fuchsia you gave me: they are putting on some size, and 'Beacon' is starting to bloom.

Babs, I'd have to second geranium 'Rozanne', and hosta if you have shade. Baptisia is a slow grower, give it some time.

Chelone, thanks for the chuckle.

Ei, I love it that you write like you're "thinking in your head" - your posts are always fun to read. We are a diverse group and we all have different strengths. I did see your pics before you took them down, you are clever in the garden, for sure!

Well, have to run and find some dinner for the family. Enjoy what's left of the weekend!


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Mary, the butterfly release sounds charming! I'm sure it will be remembered forever by the participants.

The memorial garden sounds beautiful!Please show us before, during and afters!

Ei, my first response to the clematis identification was Betty Corning. The second photo looks too pink however. I doubt it is a Texensis, but could be wrong.

Just shovelled six loads of compost into the veg garden. Much more to go after lunch.

I've had trouble posting. I've mowed and shovelled more compost. Now let's see if this can be posted this time.

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I know it's not much but it's the best I can do
My gift is my 'photo' and this one's for Sue.

(excuse me Elton...)

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I'll be back later, I thought I'd get this up before day's end. I hope your day was special.


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Hope you had a great day! I'm greatly enjoying your birthday cards too!

(impatiently waiting to hear if our offer has been accepted!)

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I've had trouble getting into gardenweb this weekend - only finally got in -- Ei - dont take your photos down! I havent seen,please!!!! I'll try again from ofc (where computer is faster & I can load a birthday photo too) -- o, piffle on elephants in the room -- no foot in mouth that I can hear/see/smell..... there's always so much to read here it's hard to keep up w/ it all & who said what.... hopefully no one is feeling ignored because of that.

Anyhoo... I think im challenging the computer gods here so will read again better & hope the Ei has put her photos up again (re-connect...).... thanks. it was a pain not being able to get in...


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Happy Birthday Sue

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Wow, as usual what a bunch of great BD cards! Thanks so much to you all. I had trouble getting on line most of the day. The cable modem was fine and supposedly my signal strength was good but the pages kept timing out and I kept getting disconnected. On top of the crappy garden weather, it was extremely annoying. BDs are just another day to me these days. Yesterday I went nursery crawling in the rain and picked up a few things. I ate lunch at a funky antique shop run by a colorful British guy who was the proprietor, chef, and also a CPA in a former life. Last night we had dinner at Pastis with our friends.

Monique, VFN has the usual selection. Apparently Stan is battling esophogeal(sp?) cancer. He'll be doing another round of chemo in July. He looks good but we all know how cancer usually goes...and this guy is in his mid 70s.

Today wasn't all that productive on the garden front. The rain soaked everything so digging and walking in the beds wasn't the greatest idea. I had a hard time focusing and ended up pulling alot of weeds. Do you all get in funks every so often? No ideas...you just sort of wander around thinking of all the things you should do but can't seem to formulate a plan of attack? That was today. Oh well...there's always next weekend.

Mary, your memorial garden will no doubt be fabulous. Can we see pictures when it's done?

Taryn, congrats on the house sale!

Gotta go-Tom wants to go in the hot tub and it sounds like a good idea to me.

"See" you all tomorrow.


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deanneart(z5Southern NH)

Evening all,

Sue, well the gardens are looking so beaten down by the four inches of rain we just got I wound up wandering around the yard doing absolutely nothing. Seems Im suffering from the same funk you were today. Ive got a ton of large projects to get done and have zero motivation lately. I just seem to keep putzing around playing with the cuttings and container gardens and not doing anything in the borders. Oh well, tomorrow is another day.

Im really enjoying all the birthday cards here. So many lovely images.

Monique, What clematis is that in your laburnum???? BTW, Ive started my caladium so I can duplicate that combination you did with the Fuchsia Billy Green. Thanks again for that inspiration.

Cindy, I had trouble getting into GW this morning also.

Bug, you must be getting pretty fit shoveling all that compost.

Wendy, guilty as charged!!! I did pick up a couple more fuchsia but Ill never tell how many. Youd definitely be planning on a serious intervention if you found out. LOL ~~ How fantastic your Beacon is starting to bloom! Usually once they start theyll be blooming until the frost comes.

Eileen, Hmmm. Ive never noticed your foot in your mouth. Now that cant be comfortable. OK here is the deal my friend, Ive always felt you were very much a part of this group. Your posts are witty and entertaining and you are a gifted and inspired gardener. Ive learned lots from looking at your photos of your garden and lots from your posts. I believe every one of us has felt like we werent part of the group at one time or another. I can remember the first year I was posting there were times when it seemed that everyone was ignoring me and it took a while before I realized that no one was ignoring me everyone is just very busy and cant always take the time to talk to everyone. I also went through a spell where I stopped posting because I couldnt keep up with talking to everyone. Now I just do the best I can and know that everyone here understands. If we all stopped posting because we couldnt talk to everyone the Idylls wouldnt survive. OK end of lecture, it sure would be nice if you put those photographs back up for us. BTW I love the combo in the blue watering can. Gorgeous!

Babs, thanks so much I love that phlox also! I would also have added Agastache Blue Fortune to the list if I hadnt lost mine over the past winter.

Mary the memorial service sounds touching. Your description of the butterfly release brought tears to my eyes. ~~ Designing and planting the Memorial Garden will be difficult but a healing time for you. ~~ How did the LL game go?

OK, Im developing that orange tinge to my skin tone again. It must be pumpkin time again.

Have a great evening everyone,

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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Yes, what is the trouble getting on tonight? Anyway...Marie, I think you are right...the name Betty Corning is ringing some bells. I guess it does look pink in the picture, but it's not actually, it's more of a lavender on the outside and a very pale lavender on the inside.

Gorgeous pictures for Sue's BD. Hope it was a good one! Sounds like you have really been enjoying your hot tub...it's good to do those things.

Love the bumble bee Michelle! :-) The other day I spotted one wiggling his way into a the last bloom on my bleeding hearts...it was quite amusing to watch him wiggle and jiggle and burrow...LOL! He did finally make it all the way in and when he did I could see his shadow through the flower...I *am* easily amused...LOL!

Taryn...what is that very cool flower in your BD pic...is that a fritillaria of some sort or an allium? Really neat!

Well, I'm too pooped to chat...it was a long day. We had fun with all the "students" here, but glad when it was time for everyone to go home. I'm ready for bed. Tomorrow starts the next round of chemo for sis.

P.S. I'm sorry Cindy! :-( I had to take them off so hubby could use it today for his pics. I don't have much space in my PT.

Sweet Dreams All!

I don't think Elton minded at all Marie! :-) Great song BTW, one of my favorite Elton songs.

Elton John - Your Song

It's a little bit funny this feeling inside
I'm not one of those who can easily hide
I don't have much money but boy if I did
I'd buy a big house where we both could live

If I was a sculptor, but then again, no
Or a man who makes potions in a travelling show
I know it's not much but it's the best I can do
My gift is my song and this one's for you

And you can tell everybody this is your song
It may be quite simple but now that it's done
I hope you don't mind
I hope you don't mind that I put down in words
How wonderful life is while you're in the world

I sat on the roof and kicked off the moss
Well a few of the verses well they've got me quite cross
But the sun's been quite kind while I wrote this song
It's for people like you that keep it turned on

So excuse me forgetting but these things I do
You see I've forgotten if they're green or they're blue
Anyway the thing is what I really mean
Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen

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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Hi Deanne! We must have been posting at the same time. Thanks! You are a sweetheart and make me feel so much better for being so "open" with me, dear friend. I *do* realize about the "talking to someone or not"...it would be *impossible* for anyone to address everyone, every time and didn't mean for it to come out sounding like I was feeling ignored. That wasn't it at all, just that I'm not witty darn it! You guys are all so witty, darn it and I *want* to be witty! :-) Seriously, I just admire the heck out of you guys (sorry about the you guys V)! :-) And you know what, I've always been someone who talks from my heart, it gets me in trouble sometimes and makes me look foolish lots of times too...I guess that's what I was getting at. But I can't help it, what I'm thinking and feeling just seems to spill out of my mouth or in this case out of my fingers...BTW...Thanks Wendy! I guess I'm just glad to know that you guys accept me for who I am and don't mind that I'm a little goofy. But please don't compliment me for awhile...I still haven't figured out how to handle it...LOL! Seriously... thanks for be so understanding.

Okay, really have to get to bed now...TTYL!

P.S. So sorry about the crummy weather Deanne and Sue...it will get better, honestly. Hope the sun will be shining down on you two tomorrow and the rain gently falling on me and Michelle!


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Monique z6a CT(6a CT)

Sue and Deanne, I must have been in the same funk. I don't know what happened, but my allergies have appeared again-or a cold. I didn't sleep well b/c I had to wake up to blow my nose and suck on a throat losenge. So, I didn't get outside until about 1:30, then decided to weed b/c of the wet ground. However that back bed of mine is all tiny poison ivy seedlings due to the large PI vine up the neighbors tree in the back. Hubby will spray, but cannot reach the whole vine and it just comes back. Then my nose kept running and I had PI gloves on and had to keep taking them off to blow my nose. I finally stuck cotton balls up my nostrils so I could weed for a while in peace. I only lasted a couple of hours then gave up for the day.

Deanne, the Clem was sold as 'The President'. It's been about my only good group 2. Glad you enjoyed the combo of the Fuchsia and Caladium-we're trying to repeat it also but the Fuchsia got pretty woody indoors this winter since I wasn't good about pinching it back-as in never. Speaking of fuchsia, I can't seem to stop buying them either. Some of my Iris,Peony, and Baptisia flowers have flopped due to the rain.

Taryn, I just tried to take a photo of my Allium also tonight. It's so hard to get a good photo of that particular species-you did a great job!

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Im loving all these fabulous cards.

Ei, ditto what Deanne said. RE: the pictures, I use Photobucket which is free and you can have lots of pictures stored there. Actually there were 3 bees on that baptisia. Obviously it tastes as sweet as it looks.

Mary, what nice tributes to your friends.

Deanne, locally, there is no good source for nice containers. So I have to stay out of the nurseries. LOL

Babs, I walked around the garden and tried to pick three super plants. Not an easy job. LOL A great performer for me is geranium Nimbus extremely long bloom time. I really like some of the sedums. I think my favorite is Vera Jameson a very nice front of the border plant. Matrona is another very nice one. The fairy roses are so easy to grow and bloom for a long time. I have the light pink and the dark pink.

Nimbus just getting started for the season.

Sedum 'Vera Jameson' Oh, the variegated iris is nice looking all the time as well.

This is a fall picture. In the front you can see the s.'Vera Jameson' in the middle is s.'Matrona' and on the far right is s.'Brilliant' I just picked up 'Black Jack' so we will see how I like that. They are extremely easy plants and great foliage as well.

Night all,

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taryn(S Ontario Z6B)

What is SO neat about you guys/gals (aside from you all being wonderful, compassionate people, and that is FIRST) is that you GET and recognize my plants! That's so neat! Many people, even the gardeners here, just have no idea. I'm that "weird one" with the "weird plants", lol1

Ei, you are a wonderful, funny, caring, compassionate lady with GREAT taste in music and plants! Please don't ever stop being you, okay? I think we all march to a different drummer but we have so much in common as well. I LOVED your pics, and can't wait to see your garden in person! I always love your songs, we totally click in that regard! We are closing here on Aug 15th, the new house we have asked for Aug 8th and will bridge for a week. Glenn has the week before and after Idyll-union off so it LOOKS like I should be able to swing it! I wasn't sure when all was up in the air, so this is a relief...

Yes, Sue's BD card is Allium siculum (Nectaroscordum), commonly known as Mediterranean Bells. Monique, they are SO difficult to photograph and really appreciate unless you are lying on the ground looking UP at them (like Hellebores), but I didn't want to squish my Moonflowers by doing that! Might try for more tomorrow if I can without hurting my Moonflowers.

Didn't mention we got a CASH (completely unconditional) offer from our couple last night, and also that they said we can divide and take whatever we want (just don't leave holes in the garden, LOLOLOL I'm soooo out of room!). And also that we can come back in the fall when it is cooler and divide then if we prefer. Lovely, lovely people and it was so nice to do a transaction like this in person, rather than through an agent. Really, so amicable. "Would you like that mirror?", "Of course we'd leave the stools with the kitchen island". "No, sorry, those bookshelves were my Dad's and are coming with us". "Yes, we'll leave the woodstove". All very pleasantly ARRANGED in conversation, but then put in writing in the offer to protect us all. I was anal on that being entirely correct, and though my agent has okayed it will have our lawyer okay it as a sound offer too. Many, many phone calls to make tomorrow.

Bruce's service isn't until next Saturday. He's been cremated already and as she has lots of out of town family I guess that is why it is so late. Thanks to all for the good vibes on that. I'm thinking of doing and ebay listing to try to gather some more money together for her, but haven't decided yet.

Please more birthdays!


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deanneart(z5Southern NH)

Good morning all,

Well there is this strange, huge, yellow sphere in the sky this morning, I didn't know what it was at first and then, Voila! it came back to me, it is the SUN!color> LOL Yes the sun is shining for a bit this AM and it is really wonderful to see. Yesteray I wound up using the rake to clean up all my lovely rhododendron flowers that were pristine still but had been knocked off the shrub by the torrential rains. It made me a bit sad to see since I'm going to either take that shrub out altogether or prune it back to the stump so this is the last display for a few years. It has just gotten beyond keeping it in bounds with normal pruning so it is time for drastic measures. Also, in between rain showers yesterday I pruned that lovely 'Asao' right back to the ground. I just looked at that twisted mess of stems and decided to go for the severe pruning. I'm hoping it survives the experience. Almost all the daylilies are showing yellowed and mushy foliage already from the excessive rains and that is a bit depressing because it is way too early to start stripping daylily foliage. Yukky. But - it looks as lush around here as I've ever seen it. Everyone's lawns are looking beautiful and every home has beautiful looking shrubs and flowers regardless of how much or little they take care of things. It really is amazing what a lot of water does for the landscape. I'll bet T knows what I'm talking about.

Michelle, I absolutely love that island bed of yours! Gorgeous! Great plant choices. I'll have to look for that geranium.

Eileen, I simply can't believe that you don't think you are witty. I think you are so warm hearted and funny that I always read your posts with a smile on my face.

Monique, what a bummer about the poison ivy and allergies. I'll tell you what, I've never, ever had allergies like I have this year. Last weekend I almost cancelled going to a friend's house for a cookout I was so miserable. I kept telling Doug that my head felt like it was going to explode. LOL BTW, the older foliage on the fuchsia is always very woody. In the fall, prune the plant back by 2/3rds and the new green growth in the spring is lush and stocky. I've also found that my fuchsia that do the best wintering over are the ones that I prune the heck out of, tops and roots then repot in the fall. I water that in and let them sit in the garage for a couple weeks then bring them down to the basement for the winter. The new growth in the spring on those is always 100% better than the ones that I leave in their pots to repot in the spring. ~~ Thanks for the ID on the clem. I thought that was what it was. Just gorgeous in that laburnum. ~~ LOL about buying fuchsia. How could I resist picking up a couple more when they were huge baskets for $6.99???? I was at HD yesterday and I just could have wept because they had probably a hundred fuchsia that where all smushed, wilted (how they did that with the amount of rain we've had here is a mystery to me)and just not going to make it. I just can't rescue them all! LOL

So Sue and MOnique, Any chance we can have a CT roving dinner get together sometime in early July? I'm missing you folks. I'd sure like to check out Sue and Tom's new hot tub.

Taryn, that sounds really positive with the couple buying your house. How great they seem OK with your taking some of your perennials. ~~ I so know what you mean about the gardeners on the Idylls 'get' my plants and 'extreme' gardening. Many of my neighbors just think I'm a bit crazy. Hmmmmm.... maybe they are right.

OK I've got to get out of here and get my day started. Have a great day everyone.


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vtskiers(z6a CentralCT)

Sure Deanne, at the rate things are progressing we ought to be just about ready for company by July....lol. So far the rest of the stone Tom needs for the hot tub patio hasn't materialized. Last night I realized my front shade garden is horribly over crowded and it's too late to do anything about it. All the rain is making the hostas go nuts. Speaking of shade gardens, they still look pristine despite the pounding unlike the sunny areas where everything is flopping and all the flowers waterlogged. Time to plant more trees. Still no sign of the sun today but at least it isn't raining.

The paving crew arrived on my street at quarter to six this morning with an armadilla of equipment then sat around for an hour and a half idylling the diesel engines and smoking. Hopefully it will be done when I get home and I can start thinking about putting my curb garden back together.

Oh, forgot to tell you all, the dogs killed a chipmunk on the patio on Saturday. Tom said he ran out as soon as he saw what was going on but it was too late. I was surprised-usually the chippies are quick and have lots of escape routes. Mild mannered Zoe is like a barracuda with little creatures that move.

Babs, I'm still thinking about your perennial question. Lately I've been more focused on woody plants and tender stuff. Off the top of my head I would say Geranium 'Rozanne', Helenium 'Mardi Gras', and Persicaria 'Taurus'. All long bloomers.

Ei, I don't think of you as being out of the group at all, quite the contrary actually. Diversity is one of the qualities that makes this place interesting.

On that note, it's off to the trenches.


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chloehoover(z6b VA)

Taryn many congrats on the home offer what a relief that must be to you all and to such nice people now to all the fun of moving!

Would you all believe my area has had almost no rain, despite various forecasts of torrents, t-storms, etc. Again, I heard we are now down 6 inches for this year and I can tell you I did a lot of hose dragging this past weekend to try to make things perk up a bit. And altho we had glorious (dry) cool weather Saturday I had to spend it all doing errands that was depressing too tired when I got home to do a thing in the yard but water.... tried to make up for it Sunday.

Deanne Ill confess I saw your shopping alert re HD & fuschias & bought my first one on Saturday they only had 1 kind but it was looking pretty good managed to have a few other things fall into the cart too... sheesh you guys are a bad influence a Canna Almost came home.... but Im just not ready for tropical annuals I guess...

Well, Ei, Im devastated that I did not get to see your photos that will teach me not to keep trying to get on to the forum I guess sometimes on the weekend I have trouble at home from the computer & Im usually really tired so it requires a lot of effort & time to get up & going; so if its blocked for some reason I usually quit after 10 minutes.... bummer. I second Deannes idea of trying photobucket out Ive been uploading print photos from a c.d. I get w/ my prints at photobucket they permit a large amount of space to store photos (& then the upgrade is really quite reasonable). But I understand about not having much hard drive space my home p.c. is pretty old & limited. Well, I will just have to console myself that I will see your garden in its July glory at the Idyllunion..... maybe you can show me your peony photos then! Im salivating from the titles I actually have several you have but will have to imagine the others and my dictamnus apparently did not make it thru the winter I will try again next year I guess. In the meantime, I hope that elephant has moved out of the room and onto another place.... This forum seems to thrive on diversity thats what I like --- but we all are plantaholics.

My 3 plants for full sun would be Phlox Nora Leigh, Geranium Rozanne (guess those are already on) & Kalimeris pinnatifida or Salvia Caradonna.

Mary the butterfly release what a wonderful gesture....

Well, Im way behind gotta start work. will try to pop in later.


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Heh heh-if I just pick all the favorites of each of the idylls I can have an instantly gorgeous garden; )

BTW Michelle I was oohing and aaahing over that bee in the baptisia and how MUCH of it you have-cracks me up that I have a...'stick' of it! Maybe it's my soil. Hey you have a beautiful garden there-you must show us more pics more often-it looks like lots of great stuff there! I have to agree I have always liked the variegated iris but haven't gotten any yet. The coloring on 'Vera J.' is pretty-does it keep that (foliage)coloring as it matures?? That geranium is pretty too-I'm going to have some hard choices...the list grows!! Being able to see pics of your faves really is helpful-thanks ladies.

Ei I liked your recommendations-too infact that clem you posted is really one I'd be interested in or at least that type-I guess I need a pergola; ) Neat to hear both you,Monique and Deanne like 'Blue Fortune'-I have it too and it's looking great this year-huge. I do have a second one that shrank and I hope it takes better in its new home with more sun. Since I have a deer problem I don't usually buy hosta though I have a few types I don't know the names of-ferns I have too-cinnamon and a dryopteris(sheild fern?). I'll have to scrounge up some fern pics in my garden for you.

BTW Michelle,since you can't find nice containers you must make them; ) Hypertufa!: )
I meant to say the story of Kenzie and the mud puddle was so cute(always cute when it's someone else's child lol). Ryan is one of those kids who can always find a puddle even when it hasn't rained. I was curious to know how she reacted to being muddy and wet.

OK everybody(I didn't say 'guys')Ei needs a group hug...(((Ei)))). If you are goofy than there's *no word* to describe myself...Ei you have nothing to worry about!

I am so sorry Monique because you feel under the weather but I bet you looked really cute with cotton stuffed up your nose: ) HEy a gardener's gotta do what she's gotta do! It's OK I tease Chris when his ears bother him-he stuffs them with cotton....I wonder if his ears *really* hurt....lol
Allergies are certainly the pits this season-our privet hedge is about to bloom and it's hard to go near it my eyes get itchy. I actually shear it before it blooms so I have somewhat less pollen floating around-I'm sure it doesn't make that difference though. Feel better soon.

Taryn Funny I at first thought your pic was of an unusual hellebore(but wrong bloom time!)and was going to ask. Is that a penstemon behind the allium? Just a beautiful allium-I like the form and coloring. You weird? Nope! The weirder the plant the better; )

Mary I love that rose pic!

OK I need to look busy now-HAVE A GREAT DAY the SUN is out!

Hi Marian,Wendy and Cindy!


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taryn(S Ontario Z6B)

Morning! Deanne and Michelle, forgot to comment on your lovely garden pics, which were stunning! And T, love that velvet-eared elk! All the cards were just beautiful...

Thanks for all the congrats on the house sale. I heard from the agent a little while ago. They just got back to him today and have doctor's appointments to go to, so it will be this evening before we get a response. I tossed and turned all night so hope we don't go back and forth overnight again. It will be SO nice to firm everything up!

Mary I sent you a note, but forgot to comment here what a lovely and enduring memorial that will be for Susan and the girls. I too would love to see pics from start to finish. Hope it brings you some closure too...

Cindy, get checked out if you are tired, and don't stop if your regular MD can't find anything. Been there done that as you all know. Adrenal fatigue and low thyroid (undectable by blood tests) were making me so low on energy, but supplements for both plus mega B vitamins have made a huge difference. I ran out of the thyroid supplement for a week a while ago, couldn't find it locally, then finally found it through the company that supplies my Lakota. I went right back to needing 12 hours sleep a day and no energy, then perked back up after 4-5 days of taking it again. So if there was ever any doubt it was thyroid-related, there isn't now (and I won't run out again!) Hope you find some answers and feel better soon.

Hi Babs! Will think about your perennial question--3 favourites is it? I haven't read a lot here, just skimmed.

Well I am really stalling here. Need to call lawyer, insurance, my bank, my mortgage broker, compare rates with different movers, etc. Would rather be playing on the forums, but guess I better get crackin'.

Hi to all, and have a good day!


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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

So the whole posting is lost. ARGHHH!

A quick summary.

Taryn, congratulations once more. Have you heard from Janie at all?

Sue. The hostas are huge here this year too!

Ei, thank heavens we are all different! Too bad we are not all cute, sensitive, verbal, family oriented, funny and musical. Oh! We are! :-)

I promised to show you the insects DH brought me from Shanghai. He said they were for 'Gardenbug" Aaaaw! He watched the man make them from reeds.

One of the hostas taking over the shade garden, for Sue.

Today, the Atlas poppies bring cheer:

Later Idylls!

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Ahhhh, most of the mowing is done again. I have got to quit trying to mow under all my shrubbery with the rider. I got smacked in the eye with a juniper! It stung, but is not red, so guess it is okay. It is my newly operated on eye, too. Then I dragged a twig through my mouth!and got smacked in the face with limbs! Yargh! I said to myself, " I'm going to get hurt if I keep this up." The push mower is in a shop, and it looks as if they will 'never' get to it. I may just buy another. That one is pretty old anyway.

Ei, I think we both have complexes, Yours is what you say, mine is what I do not say, and what I look like. At least you are not seeing me. :-)
I find your posts very cheery, and kind. Your picture stories are exceptional ( Sorry, you asked for no more compliments...but the truth is the truth! ).
I have problems with compliments also. I do not think I excell in anything. When someone compliments me, it really depends on who is doing it. If the person brags about everybody in the same way, it loses it's meaning. If the person thinks everybody is 'wonderful', regardless of who and what they are, it rings untrue in my mind. We can have concern and consideration towards all, but not approve of evrything they do. ( Woops, I am getting tooo close to my soap box!)

Yes, Eileen, my new range is electric. I am afraid of gas, and only used one for short time in the mid 1960s when we lived in a mobile home.
And, no...I have not been "bamboozled" :-)
I am sorry the iris cristata didn't 'take'. It must have been due to the drought, although they grow across rock ledges here.I have them in several differant locations in my yard. I have just stuck wayward pieces here and there, and they all grew. I hope I remember, and send you some more this fall.

Taryn...Whoopie! What great news about your sale. I will keep hoping nothing goes sour.

I am still disappointed with the range. The casserole turned out okay. It would have been better if I'd had the right ingredients, and had greased the dish so the stuff hadn't stuck to it! :-( The pie was fine. I baked it yesterday morning and took it to our church's monthly dinner on the grounds.

Marie, I am really disliking the digital stuff on the range. I am convinced it is already fouled up. I didn't set the timer this morning while baking the biscuits, but it went off anyway!???? Also, the biscuits do not brown satisfactorally, even when I put them on the uppermost shelf. The power blinked off sometime this A.M., and the clock had to be reset. Bummer. Things just are not made good anymore. LOL on your "black hockey tape".

Deanne, mea culpa! It is NOT a Streptocarpus that is so large! It is the Evolvula! I don't know why I keep getting those two mixed up! My Streptocarpella croaked!
I am beginning to think I need a proof reader before I post. ( Marie has a lovely large strep. I remember the pic.)

Babs, I have a list of what blooms here from the start of summer until fall, but all of mine are 'generic' plants. Nothing fancy. They are:
Hardy hibiscus
Goldenrod ( mine are wild species)
Phlox ( the tall, preferably mildew free, types)
Resurrection lily
Scarlet lobelia
Sedum spectabile varieties
Sedum Autumn Joy
Agastache varieties
Asters ( These are the wild ones in my yard )

Mary, that is wonderful what you are doing in memory of your friend and her daughters. It makes me ashamed of my inability to think of doing such good things. I do hope you post a picture of the completed memorial.

Sue A belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY ......I hope it was a pretty day:

Hi to all that I failed to 'speak' to... Wendy, Cindy, Monique,Michelle, Chelone,Teresa,and those who have not posted on this thread. Has anyone heard from Lisa and Jerry in Oklahoma?


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There was too much to comment on that I wanted to but missed, so here I am (again)...

Michelle I meant to mention your gardens are looking lovely why is it I cannot grow Iris pallida? I think Ive had 3 plants and they just droop away into non-existence...... You & others here seem to have it as a "snap" bummer to me.....
And cute Kenzie youre so lucky!

Monique yes, the visual of the nose cotton just what all we allergic gardeners need to add to our "uniforms" I think bout that time some white-coats will show up at my doorstep to take me away....grubby and trying to fend them off w/ the hose. PI is always a problem in my gardens because I back right up to woods some little piece is always lurking unseen, no matter how hard I try & always starts on my hands (that have been in gloves) go figure.

T I wanted to say that elk with velvet was waaaaay cool! Ive never seen that, city/suburbanite me I loved reading the info Ei supplied thereafter. See, the things one learns here continues to amaze me.

Marian Im sorry the new oven is giving you fits things seem to come with so many things "defaulted" to them these days that could be whats going on w/ the alarm.. Hang in there and read the manual I would imagine if its off, somehow you can get your electric company to come test it (they do that in our area) before you call the appliance company or maybe someone from the local appliance retailer would come check it.

That's too bad to hear about VFN, Sue - seems like a lot of terrific nurseries are struggling or closing - I'd hoped to get there sometime this year since they're not doing mail order.

Ok lunch over thinking I guess I should do some real work. Hope I havent left out too many folks this time.


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Happy Birthday, Sue!! Happy Anniversary, Marie!

Taryn, congrats on your sale! Whahoo! Thats fabulous news. But Im so very sorry to hear about your friend, Bruce. Its just so sad. Youve been a wonderful friend to that whole family. Im sure they treasure you and appreciate all the very thotful things youve done and are doing.

Mary, your tribute garden sounds just lovely. Youll have to post pix! BTW, IS THAT ANNIE?! Wow. You know, shes looking more and more like you. And so grown up already.

Ei, you are part of this group. And a great addition, too, I might add. I think we all get that feeling that once in a while. I often dont comment on each and every post b/c Im busy, too. I do enjoy reading and hearing what everyone has to say and about whats going on in their lives.

Monique, hope youre feeling better!

Fabulous pix, everyone. What a great, talented bunch you are.

Well, heres our latest visitor. I just had to tell her to go back into the woods, again. Shes been around quite a bit lately, a couple times a day even when the kids are screaming out in the yard next door. Perhaps I should double dose my garden with LF:

Despite working on the sprinkler system all Sat., there are still problems with it. And Im still plugging away at getting my plant ghetto in the ground.

Today, supposedly, the part to fix our A/C has arrived. Or are they lying? Again, Im sitting here seething and waiting for the service guy. Is this "PATIENCE" TRAINING?!! If so, Im failing miserably. The latest excuse is that the service guy had to go to court this am. Immediately after that, he was to come here for the rest of the day.

Yesterday, after sorting thru summer clothes and deciding what to take on vacation, DH requested I accompany him on a shopping trip (DH wants to go shopping?!). Amazingly, he bot loafers, sandals and flip flops. I tried on a few things and all a SMALLER SIZE. Yeah! While I was in the changing room, DH was hanging onto my stuff for me. Im sure he had one of those blank, bored looks on his face. Ennyhoo, a woman came up to him while he was waiting for me and said, "You know, your purse really doesnt match your shoes." I just cracked up when I heard about it.

Enough jabber from me for now. I need to save up my energy to kill someone. Hi to Michelle, Babs, Wendy, Cindy, Marian, Deanne, T, Eden and anyone I forgot to mention. TTYL friends,


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Marian-never mind about 'generic' plants-I probably have just as many generics as you do and I have to say that if a plant blooms well and isn't tons of work to maintain then generic is fine! The deer found my generic echinacea today lol.
It also helps to get feedback from so many people to remind me which plants I'd probably overlook. Thanks for your long list!

Cindy-I saw your post after I refreshed and thanks for your suggestions too. I can imagine the Phlox winning out but then again the Salvia Cardonna is sounding intriguing...I will go see what Kalmeris is: ). I am going to have a hard time choosing I have a feeling.Fun!

Honey check the bushes-you probably have a ditched fawn laying somewhere. The momma comes by to feed the little one then goes back to get her own food(our gardens; ). We had a similar thing happen-tons of people around on a Sunday afternoon and the doe kept hanging around...the next day I find the baby laying next to my compost pile and it stayed for a couple days then went off into the sunset with his mom. Even though we complain about them it's a neat thing to see one up close.

Honey I just love your garden!
Hilarious about Tom's purse lol.

Can you tell track season is over and the homework load has slowed down? : ) Are you sick of me yet? lololol.

I miss Eden!

My big event of the day was Ryan falling/flipping over the porch swing. Oh you guys-it was horrible. I watched him flip back wards so his body seemed to bend in half backwards. Although you'd think his back would be injured he landed square on his mouth. I had him lay still while I had him squeeze my fingers and had him wiggle his toes-all was OK. Teeth are fine-just a FAT lip. The heart palapitations were mine. This is prep for my health aide job...gulp.

I suppose now I should think dinner.

~bBas(I think I'll leave it like that)

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Hi, just came home from town and checking Idylls. I've not read anything yet but was disturbed by something I'm seeing at the right top corner of each person's posts. There is a smallish white box that says "Clippings Clip this post, email this post.........etc". I know we're in a public forum but 'Wow' does that little white box make me feel a bit more uncomfortable and a reminder that we're sharing in a very open and public forum. :o(

Be back later..(hello to all!)

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chloehoover(z6b VA)

Well, the good news is I see Gardenbug's photos are "back" as well as wonderful ones from Honey...
the bad news is... yes, I too noticed at lunch this bizarre "clippings" thing in this area of the forums.... seems totally inappropriate. If you just click "most clipped" you get the oddest assortment of "clippings" - we will definitely need to monitor more carefully any personal info/etc...

Babs -- you just got emergency training on the spot in cool, calm and collected -- glad Ryan is "okay"

Taryn - thanks for the info -- I suspect a lot of my fatigue has to do w/ the allergy meds I take -- but they are a necessity - I tried going off 'em & doing other things -- but it just didnt work....bummer. But I'll keep the thyroid biz in mind (my DM has that problem).

An lovin all these photos!!!!

Off to Home.


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ccsuzy(z6 IN)

Hello Idylls,

I've just been so busy lately and when reading just could manage that, too pooped to post. All the birthday pics were gorgeous! I have some pics to share with you today. Of course, nothing looks like this now, because we had a torrential downpour a couple of days ago that lasted about 45 minutes and pretty much killed the show.

Taryn, I'm sorry to hear about Bruce. I know he's at peace now and in a better place. I'm also very glad to hear about your house selling, and I hope you get a yes on your offer on the new one. Think of all the fun you will have doing new gardens! In a way I envy you - I'd love to know the things I know now and start with a clean slate.

Marian, I have one of those ranges that are all push button but I love mine. It's a Maytag Gemini - has two ovens on the bottom, and I use the smaller upper one most of the time. It was pricey but well worth it, in my opinion. I have had two repair calls on it - both were covered under warranty although the second one shouldn't have been since a mouse ate through some wiring. I've even used my pressure canner on it - I have the flat top also. Maybe the beeper was telling you the oven was heated? Mine doesn't have a preheat setting per se, but you set the temp and then it beeps when it reaches that temp.

Honey and Babs, I've had deer in my yard too, but so far they pretty much leave the flowers alone. Hope that continues, or I may have to get an outside dog again to keep them out of the gardens! Sweet pictures...

Ei, I can't believe you feel not part of the group, as I thought you were always part of the core group! But you Idylls always make me feel welcome, even though I don't post much, and I learn so much from you all. I feel very inadequate with my beds, but I am learning how to improve them thanks to all of you.

Today's UPS man brought a box from Bluestone with four clems. Now I have to get the teuteur mounted and maybe a couple more trellises. What do you all feed your clems? Mine seem to do well for a couple of years and then languish a bit. They probably need food - our dirt here is horrible. I keep mulching and amending and someday it will be grand, but not yet. They never die, they just don't perform like I want them to. Anywho, I'm amazed that I can get clems in the mail that look better than most of the ones at the local box stores...not broken at all! They are beautiful. I got: Betty Corning, Guernsey Cream, Josephine, and Purpurea Plena Elegans. Bluestone also sent some shrub fertilizer pellets with them, to be planted 4-6 inches away from the vine. I'm wondering if these would be good for ALL my clems. I might look for some at Lowes.

I'm hoping to get to Lowes tomorrow, if I can get the menfolk to allow me to NOT go with them. They are going the opposite direction and car shopping (again) and doing other stuff that I'm NOT interested in. I'd rather do my own thing than be cooped up with the testosterone all day. I have several things on my list to look for.

I also don't like the new feature up in the corner. Wonder where that came from?

OK, time to post a few pics and then get dinner started.

Double Delight and Splish Splash

One of my containers:

The Peony Bed

Another container:

A Pink Peony:

Rose - I have the name upstairs but can't remember it right now...

Pictures of the road between us and our neighbors after the storm:


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Suzy, Yes , it peeps when it has pre-heated, but it also peeped during the baking, and it wasn't set on timing. I may up-grade to a more expensive one with dials, not buttons.
Your flowers are beautiful. Wow, what a river down the street!

I discovered those uninvited boxes also, and clicked on the "most clipped" after reading Cindy's comment. At least I didn't see anything from the Idylls....yet. I do resent having them in our faces.

Ooooo Babs, Thank goodness Ryan is okay, but I imagine you are still shaking.
Cute fawn, and great pic. I wish they weren't so hungry for my plants. :-(

Marie, All I got was red xs when I first saw your post, and they wouldn't open, but now I saw them.....Beautiful flowers, but you can have the bugs! LOL

Cindy, I read the manual, but even if it is easily fixed, I do not want that sort of set-up. I am hoping the range that I buy now will last me the rest of my life, and I sure don't have faith in that digital system. Another of my booboos.....:-(

Honey, I sure hope that doe doesn't move in on your gardens. They are very tenacious once they find good food in your yard.
I guess your DH wasn't too thrilled with the woman's remark about the purse, but it is funny. Naturally she was just ribbing him. :-)


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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

That clippings thing is yet another visual delight...NOT! Oh well, we're all still here anyway.

My morning post that was lost included things I am gradually remembering:
To Babs- How about clematis shopping when we are together at V's place? I'm sure we might find a nursery or two there....

Eden- How does your garden grow? Hope everything is fine!

Honey- You're a stitch! Murdered anyone lately?

As to the photos vanishing, that's what happens when the university system is down. Sorry that happened. At least they got things going again.

I weeded and weeded again today. The trouble is, if I ever finished, I'd just have to begin again. At this time of year I have to use bug spray, and I hate it!

I hope that Taryn gets a good sleep tonight, and that all goes for the best as concerns the new home!

This will be a tough couple of days for DH...but lots should be resolved by the end of the week. Cross fingers and toes please!


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deanneart(z5Southern NH)

Good evening idylls,

Well I had a busy, busy day here and got a lot accomplished but as usual not everything Id hoped Id accomplish.

So Im wondering if this clippings garbage is why we were having trouble getting into GW for the last couple days. I dont like this business one little bit.

Sue, great you can see your way clear to doing a CT roving garden dinner in July sometime. Hopefully in the first couple weeks sometime. Doug is supposed to have his foot surgery the middle of the month so it would be best to be before. Now we just need to get Monique/Les on board and perhaps Martie??? That would be cool. ~~ Glad to hear your shade gardens are looking great. Ill bet your hosta are enormous this year with all this rain. My S&S are looking really great this year too.

Cindy, RE the fuchsia purchase; glad to help out! LOL ~~ Yes! You are another Nora Leigh fan. Cool ~~ Im so lucky that Im not allergic to poison ivy. The only time I had any reaction at all was thirty years ago we were practically wading in the stuff and we were burning brush and I know there was PI in the fire. Everyone there that day blossomed out in really bad cases of it and I had two little blips on my arm that went away in a couple days.

Babs, my Blue Fortune bloomed for months last year which is one reason I replaced the missing plant. I really love it. I think Ive got some kind of buggy or slug kind of thing that is chewing the new plant and the sick one from last year to bits and I cant figure out what is doing it. Earwigs maybe? ~~ What a wonderful photograph of that fawn! ~~ How frightening to see Ryans fall. So happy to hear all is well except for a swollen lip. Children always amaze me with just how resilient they are.

I miss Eden too!

Monique, so now I know why one of the ladies at the gym has poison ivy on her nose. I couldnt figure that one out. ~~ So what are you and Les doing the beginning of July?

Taryn, I hope you have positive news tonight.

GB love the Gardenbugs! how cute! ~~ Im like you in that I absolutely hate bug spray and sun screen is on that list of things I detest too. ~~ Fingers and toes are all crossed here. Hope things resolve the way youd like.

Marian, no worries, I sure wish you had a Streptocarpella that size! Ill have to make cuttings of that plant for you since you dont have yours anymore. It really is a pretty one. Youd love it and it is just making flowers like crazy right now. It is really happy in its new container.

Honey, wow that is a gorgeous iris! Your gardens are looking fabu-fabu right now. Bummer about the deer. Im also lucky that I dont have to deal with them here yet. How are the dahlias doing? Mine are just lingering and not doing much since the weather turned cold again. At this rate I wont have flowers until August.

T, I agree with you about the clippings thing. Looking forward to hearing more from you soon.

Suzy, beautiful pics! I love that begonia/verbena/Ipomoea combination. What is the dark purple plant in that combination. Is that that basil? It is the color of the iresine I have in one of mine. ~~ That orange sherbet colored rose is just stunning! ~~ That photo of the flooded road is unbelievable. Too bad you cant send some of that water to Cindy.

Well, Im going to be super busy until the weekend so I probably wont be able to check in or post so dont worry if you dont hear from me for a few days.

Nite all,

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taryn(S Ontario Z6B)

Lovely flower and bambi pics! Babs that 'lil guy is so cute! Yes dwarf Penstemon, good guess. Suzy nice to see your roses and containers. Bug, Janie emailed me her condolences on Bruce's passing, but I haven't gotten back to her yet. I have dozens of emails piling up, but will see how she's doing when I write her. Miss her and Eden and Woody and others MIA too...

Well I'm exhausted but had to share my good news. We bought the house! The one I linked before with the HUGE 2.56 acre property! Got a fabulous price, we are very happy, AND they're leaving the pool table! Bonus! August 8th is the magic day. Here it is again for any who missed it before, rest linked on photobucket below.

I'm sooo glad we can start to move forward now! Gots to go, man oh man I'm going to sleep like a log tonight after all this!

Taryn :))))))

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Monique z6a CT(6a CT)

Congratulations Taryn and family! What a great house!

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Taryn congratulations on the sale and the new home! Looks like a wonderful house! The home and garden look like a perfect place for an Idyllunion. :)

I'm so sorry that Bruce is gone but so glad he went peacefully. With the loving support of family and friends I'm sure the family will come through the grief the way they're supposed to. Hugs to you all and peace too.

Belated Happy Birthday Sue. Hope you had a wonderful day. Sorry about the gift the dogs brought you, though. Tell them you prefer a card the next time.

Marian I love the way you handled the Home Depot, and I know you won't stop until you're satisfied with the stove you got. I hope you go for it and upgrade to what you want. You paid the money and should get something that works for you!

Ei you're going to have to fight me for the title of the Idyll wannabe most out of step with the others, lol. I'm not a great gardener, can't keep up with the group on the daily chatting, am so anxious and moody that I can't feel confident that I'm liked from one moment to the next. Try to beat that. Nah nah nah nah nah. ;;;))).

GB fingers and toes crossed. Best of luck to your DH. BTW thanks for posted your inspirational Clematis pics again. Today I bought my fifth one, thanks to you and keep adding more to my list of plants I want.

Honey so sorry about the Stephen King type machines and days. It sounds like a household horror movie to me. Hope everything gets straightened out quickly.

Dorthe is doing better, thanks for your support everyone. We went to the Neurologist today and got the great news that there is no sign of stroke on her MRI and MR Angiogram and the test also rules out Multiple Sclerosis, which can also lead to stroke like symptoms. So she's off the Coumadin (Rat Poison) as of today, HURRAY! Maybe some of her atypical symptoms will disappear. Like her inability to sleep, etc. I hope so. The symptoms have been worse than the Atrial fibrilation ever was. Thanks again for you kind words for Dorthe. She appreciats them greatly.

I really owe you all birthday pics for all the lovely ones I received from you all. I just haven't got the picture taking knack yet, though. I'm camera shy from both sides now, sigh... Anyway thanks again for the lovely birthday cards and for just being you Idylls.

Hi to everyone I missed. Unfortunately I have to work on paperwork a bit tonight as Richea needs the info for tomorow. I did take time to work out at the Y with Dorthe so I'm ready to sleep now. Ah well it's not to be.

Take care all. Night night.


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Good Morning Idylls!

I'm going to have to keep this short as I have lots to do and today is another chemo treatment for sis. Wasn't in a very good mood yesterday. I don't know for some stupid reason, it just hit me yesterday, like a ton of bricks....my sister could *not* make it. How stupid of me not to see that as possible, but I don't know I just believe that with treatment (and she seems to be doing so well), she is going to make it. Well, I'm going to continue to believe it, but yesterday was a little dose of reality for me.

Anyway, on to better thoughts...thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and feelings with me. I *do* feel better about the whole thing.

Yeona - I couldn't believe that you said that! How could anybody do anything *but* like you. You are one of the most sensitive, thoughtful, kind posters and I always enjoy reading your posts, as I know everyone else does too! :-) You always say just the right things to make someone feel better and it's always so apparent that you really *think* of other's problems and try to come up with thoughtful suggestions on how to help and are always so encouraging. Good to hear that things are looking up for your sister. Glad she can be off the Coumadin. My dad was on that and I know that it helps, but it's just awful to think about the fact that they are taking poison!

Marie...I *love* your bugs! They are so intricate. It must have been *amazing* to watch the guy make them! What a thoughtful gift from hubby. Those atlas poppies are just so charming. I've never heard of them. Are they annuals or perennials? Crossing my fingers and toes!

Babs! Okay all you idyllers...don't throw any tomatoes at me...but I am in *love* with your baby doe Babs! What an adorable little thing. Don't you just want to pick him up and snuggle him up to your face?! Great picture...I can't imagine the patience and control it must take to get close enough to take a pic like that! Seriously, I do understand the terror they can instill in the heart of a gardener and I'm glad I don't have them, but they sure are beautiful! So glad to hear Ryan is okay...my heart would have been racing too! I was thinking the same thing as you...an opportunity to practice your nursing skills, but tell AJ only scraped knees from now on, mom would prefer to get her practice on the job. Oh, I wanted to second the recommendation for Rozanne! A wonderful geranium. I also like Brookside too. Funny thing about Rozanne...the one in my backyard garden is *super*, but the one in front lingers, but just barely and I can't figure why. The only real difference I can see is that the back yard *is* sunnier; the soil is the same in both locations.

Honey, I'm with Babs...I *love* your gardens! Funny, I never realized you were backed up to a woods. I thought you lived in suburbia like me. What a wonderful backdrop for your gardens, though I can imagine the challenges of woodland wildlife. So sorry about your patience being tested...it's been way over tested I think. I cannot deal with contractors anymore...reminds me of the nightmares we had when we put the addition on our house. I will never buy a house to renovate again. It will either be new or I will live with it "as is". I just couldn't go through it again...the frustration! I hope that all your contractors come through with their promises and that all will be peaceful in your household again.

Cindy! How exciting! I didn't know you were coming too! :-) Which reminds me, I have to get a hold of V.

V if you are reading this could you email me your phone number again or if you are better about where you place things and still have *my* phone number, could you call me tonight, or whenever is best for you? I know you have been very busy and have a lot on your plate, so I haven't wanted to bother you, but I'm panicking now, realizing the Idyllunion is so close!

Marian - I am so proud of you and have much admiration for your determination to get what satisfies you! Good for you! You paid good money and should get what you paid for. I'm not too thrilled with the "most clipped" either and like you, checked to make sure none of the Idylls posts were there...LOL! I would *love* to see you anytime! :-) I know I've told you before, but *I* happen to think you are beautiful both inside and out! :-) In fact, I don't know if I ever told you this, but you look much like my ex-neighbor and "2nd mother", Mrs. Shack. I miss her terribly! Your sky is beautiful by the way, so blue and I love clouds! Reminds me of when I was a kid and I would lay in the grass with my bestfriend Maria and try to "identify" the clouds..."That one looks like an elephant", etc. Thanks for reminding me! :-)

Hi T! :-)

Hi Deanne! I hope Eden's just busy with that new walkway and working in the garden...I miss her too! Glad you saw that firey yellow thing in the sky yesterday... hope it's back for you today again! No rain here yet, but we are expecting some tonight.

Taryn...that house is *fabulous*! Oh my, I am bowled over...good score! Hope everything goes through as smooth as silk! I'm *so* excited for you and couldn't be more excited if it were happening to me! :-)

Suzy...what a *woinderful* wake up for me! Love all your luscious pics! Could your rose be 'Pat Austin'? It reminds me of her...she's a beauty! Love all your containers and all your peonies too! :-) Sorry about the rains, but what a lush and beautiful property.

The starlings have made a resurrgence here, I'm sorry to say. The resident hawks made short work of them for the last few years, but this year the hawks seem to be missing!?! So now the starlings are having a noisy feeding fest in my front yard...well they have to eat too, I guess. But they just bully all the other birds and take over the territory.

Today I failed to remove my goal of 15 exclamation points...but I'm in a rush! :-)

Okay, I have to be going now...Hi to all I missed. Have a great day all! Ei

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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

*Duh* Babs! Just read over my post...I meant *Ryan*, but typed AJ! Okay...gotta go.

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Such wonderful pics yesterday-Suzy you've got beautiful flowers! Wow that flooding is terrible. I'm guessing that was an unusual storm? Your neighborhood looks so pretty. HOney and I are both on the edge of wooded areas so naturally the deer spill into our yards. In fact Chris almost got run into(in his car)in front of our house lastnight by a large deer. Instead of herds I now call them *packs* of deer(it sounds more ferocious; ) Do you have wooded areas too? I think deer take the same path over and over so maybe you are away from their path-I hope they don't find you lol.

Yeona you took the words out of my mouth-Taryn's new home is PERFECT for an idyllunion! Forget hotels,we can pitch tents(who groaned?)! Taryn,what is the long narrow building for? Would that be the plant factory??: ) You also have plenty of room for a green house or two!

Yeona I'm glad Dorthe doesn't have all the health problems that were suspected-such a worry for you all. I hope she figures out why she can't sleep-how difficult that must be. I remember when my mom was depressed and how she could only get 3 hours of sleep a night and it was so frustrating for her.
Nice that you took Dorthe to the Y-you take good care of her.
NO ONE is a bad idyll!: )

GB those bugs are cute-is that one on the left a cricket? They bring good luck to your home.
Somehow I think that if you took me clematis shopping I'd buy many more than I can handle lol. I do plan to look here but if the IU3 schedule allows I certainly would appreciate your clematis guidance at V's.

Gotta get up and go,the day's awaiting


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Well that settles it then,Ei-shall I ship the cute fawn by UPS or FedEx? : ) He's/she's got a cousin around here too if you'd like a pair!; )


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We were predicted thunderstorms last night. We didnt get them, but no rain either. Things are getting really dry and the grass is turning brown. More rain predicted for the weekend.

Taryn, I took another look at your new house. Wow, what a lot of room both inside and out. It is a lovely home.

Deanne, I got geranium Nimbus from Bluestone, I havent seen it locally. Your comment about being crazy reminds why I like it here so much. You all are just as crazy as I am. LOL
Babs, actually, I could bring you some cuttings of the sedums and a variegated iris fan in July. Save room in your suitcase. LOL Vera Jameson does keep its burgundy coloring all season. Im sure glad Ryan is OK Hypertufa, LOL just what I need is another project. Have you done it? I should really post a picture of my trough garden that I made this year. An actually calf feeding trough, not hypertufa trough. That fawn is just the cutest thing, but you can keep him. We have our own Im sure.

Bug, the bugs are really cool and your poppy picture is stunning. Good thoughts going out for your DH.

Cindy, Ill send you a piece of the variegated iris when I send Blue Denim.

Honey, I would just love to sit on your lovely bench. That spot looks so serene.

Ill bet Eden is very busy planting all her containers. I believe she has 6 days without Bella.

Suzy, your containers are fabulous.

Yeona, great to hear from you and so glad to hear that things are looking for your sis.

Have a great day all

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Suzy what pretty photos! I love your combo of Splish Splash & Double Delight. And your peonies Wow (in case you hadnt already figured out I love those things, fleeting as they might be). Clematis are definitely a contagion here so join the rest of us nuts.

Gardenbug I forgot to mention the "bugs" your DH brought you those are so clever & lifelike amazing theyre woven.

Taryn O my love your new home! What are you going to do with the outbuildings? And something tells me youre very happy with that wonderful master bedroom closet LOL! It looks great. I concur youll have rooms for all of us to do a Canadian IU holy cow, thats a lot of space!!

Michelle Id love to give both those iris a try altho you may have to give me some pointers on the pallida since I seem to be failing in that department somehow! Your area & mine must be on the same latitude since all were getting are misses in the rain department its hard to drag hoses when the rest of the folks are "swimming"..but at least its in the 70s temp wise flirting w/ 80 as the week draws to a close (& yep, more promises of rain towards the weekend remains to be seen).

I also meant (I keep forgetting so many things) to say how glad I am to hear that both Yeona & Eis sisters seem to be doing pretty well, all things considered. Im sure all those positive thoughts/attitudes are showing results.

I have enjoyed our lovely sunshine at least today at lunch lots & lots of touristas are also here in D.C. Now, Im stuck back in the ofc to throw some more paper around. Babs, ups that fawn to me here at the office it would liven things up a bit! (yes, Ei I too am overly fond of exclamation points but I think all the glorious photos one sees here warrants them).


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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

Here we are enjoying mid 80 temperatures. It is a bit too hot for gardening at mid day, so I came in and made lunch for DH who is working at home for the day. Then off I went to see if the doctor or nurse could check my thumb. I won't describe it in detail, just to say that a week ago I tried to remove a thistle from the lawn and part of it took up residence in my thumb. All was OK until yesterday when funny things began...and it hurt. So the nurses were able to remove some plant material, put goo on it and bandage it, telling me to keep it clean. Yeah, sure. Guess I HAVE to wear garden gloves now. Might even have to wash them- what a concept!

Picked up another sprinkler on sale today. They just don't last with our water clogging up their holes...so sale items are the way to go.

The weeding is going so slowly. They say the temperatures should be cooler by Friday, so perhaps I can do a blitz on Friday and Saturday. I hope so! Boy, I hope T's daughter is managing OK. Being pregnant with twins in summer heat would be something else!

Watching baby robins develop in their nest. Saw a swallowtail butterfly yesterday, a couple of monarchs today, as well as a hummingbird.

A few from the farm today:
Corn behind the barn

Rose Morden Sunrise

Clematis Niobe

Enjoy your day! Hope to hear from V, Eden, Marian and other missing persons soon.

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>nudgenudgeso yeah, V. is back... I'm now calling myself V for "Victim of Simple Minds". I was doing really good at the graduation on Sunday until the very end. It was a beautiful, sunny, blue sky day, and all the graduates threw their mortar boards into the air and then the P.A. system played "Don't You (Forget About Me)" by Simple Minds, and I turned into a lump of blubber, or was that a blubbery lump? Okay, I bawled! It was a very nice day and impossible to believe that both my kids are out of high school (or as I have been saying - done with the free part of their education).

Sue, I missed your birthday! Hope it was great.

Taryn, how exciting about the house. I can't help but believe you were meant to stay put until Bruce was at peace. I hope all the pieces continue to fall into place.

It has been crazy busy lately and I shouldn't even be doing this now, but I miss everyone! Ei, I will email you my number as soon as I post this. I think I have your number but it's at home and I can't double check right now.

Tonight I pick up DS at the airport and he's home until after the grad party this weekend. I'd better run now so I can get a little more of this mountain of work resolved!


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Marian_2(Z6 ARKozarks)

Hey, Marie, I'm here . I posted just before you did last night. Thank you for that farm picture. It is making me homesick. I love the look of well tended fields.

Dear, dear Yeona! You are very definitely liked ! Aren't you one of my adopted daughters?
I'm so happy that Dorthe is doing better. BTW, how is her name pronounced ? Is it the same as Dorthy ? I had a distant cousin, that was close to my mother, that's name was Dorthea.

Taryn...Woo Hooo ! Wonderful, wonderful news about your new home ! It is a beautiful place. You will have such a great time giving it all your own personal touches, both inside and out. That would give me a huge adrenalyn rush .

Ahhh, Eileen, If only I could see me as others (you) see me.
I would gladly be your "3rd" mother...:-) lol
Hang in there with your hope that your sis with beat this challenge. I have seen it happen. It is in God's hands.

LOL V , you are blessed with the ability to "blubber". I wish I were. It takes much too much to 'reach' me. But then, when I was your age it was easier.

I am struggling with the decision as to how and where to get a new computer. Our son would take care of that for me if he wasn't set back so badly by the divorce. Any of you that have Dells, did you purchase them from their computer site? Tim says they are very prompt with their delivery ( I haven't told him about my HD snafu... the new range is to be a surprise).

I started taking the second prescription Thursday, and have been having pretty constant nausea, and difficulty sleeping.I'm pretty sure it is the med. I return to my Dr. this Thursday.

I bought some of those California strawberries, that are like rubber. ;-(
( I need to get to the local farmer's market).
They are soaking in sugar, and I made shortcakes from Bisquick a while ago. That blasted oven just does not bake things right!


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Thanks everyone. I love Idylling with you all no matter what so I stay and suffer through my angst.

Anyone like to hum? Anyone get sinusitis? I read the article, linked below, which says that a Swedish study found that humming helps sinusitis so I thought I'd share this non invasive treatment with you. Alena, my DD, gets bad sinusitis so I was looking for ways to help her.

Yeona, humming while she works.

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Hi everyone

I'm here, reading along but posting time has been limited.

I think ALL the Idylls are great - and yes that means Ei and Yeona too. I echo all the sensible things said by others on that subject. We value everyones contributions, enjoy our common interests and delight in our differences. Thats what makes Idylling so much fun. I'm sorry I rarely have the time to comment individually but its never from lack of interest or appreciation.

Wonderful pictures again.

Babs - can I clip your fawn?

I do agree about the Clippings being an obnoxious addition to this forum and am going to write to see if the powers that be would condsider allowing Conversations here to drop the clippings box. Does anyone know who to contact directly?

The days are racing by as we head towards the end of the school year. I have visits with children to finish, parent conferences I still need to schedule, packing my supplies at two schools for storage over the summer and a mound of paperwork to complete:0( I'm also hosting our annual end-of-year get together so somewhere I need to actually do a little housework. And what I really want to be doing is working in the garden.

After school was lovely today. We swam in the pool, I talked on the phone, nipped over for an Iced tea with 2 friends then grilled South West Turkey burgers for dinner. I need to run now as I'm helping Annie Study for finals and tonight we're doing Monera and Protists. Anyone know what they are - I'm not sure I do?

have a great evening all


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ccsuzy(z6 IN)

OK, OK, Im running on adrenalin right now. I had to run to the next town for some fabric for a piece of needlework, and of course I HAD to stop past Lowes. While I was there, two of the employees started pulling all sorts of perennials, gallon perennials, and stuffing them on a rack, and marking them to are you ready? FIFTY CENTS each. I couldnt believe it. I hardly ever find bargains like this (although one year I got gallon daylilies from them for $1 each). Naturally I dug out the best of the lot and added to the shopping cart.which was already plant ladenlist of goodies to follow. When I got home I carefully placed them here and there, hoping to hide the carnage from the hubby. He just wouldnt understand

Ei I think that rose is Pat Austin. I love love the Austin roses, and isnt this one gorgeous? It seems to like it here, so far. I have several Austins but some do better for me than others. Of course, how I plant them has changed over the years, and Im sure thats helped too. I have a Mary rose that is really pretty this year, although still small, for the first time. Its been in the same spot for about 4 or 5 years now, I think. I feel lucky to live where we do, despite the soil. Its a short street with only 6 houses, one being the one on the other side of the "river" which ends the street. We have medians with trees. Weve had to take a couple of them out in the last couple of years, but Im hoping to replant there someday.

Babs, anytime we have a lot of rain, this area floods. The water runs down from a farm field and overtakes the small culvert there (usually dry) and runs over the road. It will run behind the next neighbors house and out into a field behind them, eventually finding a stream that runs through a nearby golf course. However this usually happens only when we have long continuous rain, not in the 45 minutes it was pouring this day. You cant tell by this picture, but this water was running rapidly, too. Ill have to take a picture of the road there as it is normally. And we have wooded areas nearby, and the deer do run through here. Ive seen footprints near my deck, have seen them run between our houses and have had to stop for them on our street before. Maybe they know I have a schnauzer LOL.

Taryn, Congrats on the house purchase. I envy you with all that clean space, how fun. And the house looks just lovely also. Its big! May your family enjoy many blessed years together in your new home.

Cindy, thank you for the complement about Splish Splash and Double Delight, but I cant really take any credit for it at all. I planted a Splish Splash in a nearby bed, and the very next year I had two volunteers in the rose bed. I left them to make sure thats what they were, and to let them mature a bit and now Ill probably just leave them permanently, despite their haphazard placement. I also have a volunteer purple coneflower near one of the roses. Im letting it be for the time being, hoping it will multiply a bit. Its parent is in the same bed as the Splish Splash and very crowded by an energetic campanula that I love but rip out gobs of each year. Some of those peonies are absolutely HUGE plants they were planted by my father in law, probably 30 years or so ago. I always think of him when the iris and peonies bloom.

Tonight as I was bending to look at my prizes, I heard a distinct buzz above me. I glanced up to see a ruby throated hummer light on the feeder. He sat for a bit and then flew off. Seconds later, another hummer swooped in for a snack. He had no sooner started to eat than the first hummer chased him off. All this only about 4 feet from my head. I love hummingbirds!

OK, as promised, heres the list of the 50 cent gallon perennials which by the way were in pretty good shape, I thought. Some of these I have but wouldnt mind a couple more, you know how that goes Goblin Blanket Flower, Pink Pearls Tiarella (2), Astilbe Erica (2), Hardy Gloxinia, Pink Bleeding Heart (3), Achillea Mary Ann, First Love Dianthus. For 25 cents each, I got two small pots of White Swan Echinacea (these havent even bloomed yet but are budded). Of course then there were the full price perennials Echinacea Sunrise, Echinacea Sunset (this one smells good!), Echinacea Ruby Star, Royal Heritage Lenten Rose, Pikes Peak Purple Beard Tongue, Clifford Moor Catchfly (this one has nicely colored leaves), Hocus Pocus Geranium, and a Revolution Hosta. I have a lot of planting to do in the next couple of days! I was very pleased.
. Off to bed before I turn into a pumpkin.


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Oh man, I can't believe it...it's raining here again and is supposed to rain for the next three days. At least I've got the compost pile covered now. We have tickets to a garden tour on Saturday and a garden party to go to on Sunday. Supposedly it's going to be decent for the weekend though...good grief!

Tom got another load of tumbled bluestone last night for the hot tub patio. He actually got it all installed too but needs one more load to finish. The stone and mulch place closes at 5 during the week and is only open til noon on Saturdays-not exactly user friendly for us working stiffs but we're dealing. Do you think he'll get the last load and finish in the rain tonight? lol That may be a bit much to ask.

Taryn, congrats on the house! All that untouched property...imagine the possibilities. To be able to actually choose your own trees and create garden rooms from scratch...you are going to have so much fun.

What is this clippings thing? I've been afraid to click on it because I don't want to get bombarded with spyware and pop ups. Whatever...

OK, I've got statememts to get issued and a staff meeting in a few minutes. Hi to all!


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Good Morning Idylls!

Okay Babs! :-) I'll be awaiting delivery...don't forget to poke some big breathing holes for my new baby! :-)

Thanks Marian...you are right, it is in God's hands and not much that I can do, but be there to support her and wait and hope for the best. Have you contacted the store that sold you the new stove yet? I'm sorry it's not working out. Hubby did buy his Dell direct and seems the order and delivery went very smooth from what I remember. Sorry I can't be more helpful, but I just don't get that involved in the "electronics" dept. Sorry about the nausea...is that the new BP medicine you are taking?

Speaking of electronics, I think there may be something wrong with my camera or possibly the software for pics? Or is it just the photographer? I notice the color on my pics these days are not coming out true. First the clematis I posted did look pink and it is definitely a purple lavender color and then Deanne commented on my blue watering can (and it does look blue) but it is most definitely a purple. Anybody have any ideas and/or suggestions for me? Even the pics I posted today are not really true. The rose has a lot more orange and pink in it and the lilac flowers look kind of "green" in my pic. What could I be doing wrong? Or, is it the camera/software?

Taryn! I went and looked at your pics again. It's just amazing! What a beautiful home you will have. I love all the big molding. What will you use the shop buildings for? A friend of my parents in Tenn. turned an old log cabin on their property into an arts and crafts shop...it was so neat! Do you do "artsy" things too? I mean *besides* growing fabulous plants in your greenhouse and in your gardens. I'm thrilled with your hardwood floors on the 2nd floor. That's a luxury fantasy of mine. In the next home (hmm, I seem to say that a lot), but in the next home I would love to have hardwood floors upstairs and down.

Speaking of new homes, hubby says he definitely wants to put the house up by fall and says we will probably have to remove a lot of the gardens and put in grass, as he thinks all the work would scare people off...he could be right. Well, whatever happens, I am definitely taking my tree peonies with me (even going to attempt the huge one) and a few of my favorite herbaceous peonies, my dictamnus, my acanthus, a few irises, special plants given to me by friends and family and/or are slow to mature perennials, and maybe even a few of the smaller trees and shrubs. The trick will be to time everything right.

Michelle...I was so excited watching the weather news last night. They said a storm/rain was working its way through Iowa and headed our way. I was dancing in the kitchen for the both of us! Well, the rains completely passed me up...I hope at least they didn't miss you? Everything is very dry in my garden and worse because I wasn't able to mulch this year or last. Oh well, what are you going to do? I have watered individual plants when I see something looking stressed, but cannot afford to water it all. I'm glad that I didn't really put in any new plants this year. Sure hope we don't have a repeat of last year. Meant to tell you the other day how lovely your garden bed looked. Very nice textures and colors. I think I need to look into the sedums more. I still am sorely lacking in the edging department. I cheated again this year and used annuals to fill up the empty space because I just can't seem to figure out what to use as edgers. I did go out and buy a couple Stachys cause I remembered how nice they looked in Deanne's garden. Maybe now I'll add a few sedums too. I really like your Vera...how tall does she get? I need things that are about 1 to 2 feet tall.

Not a lot of posting going on here. I hope Sue and Deanne had better weather yesterday. It's so ironic how depressing too much rain or lack of rain can be for a gardener.

Oh there goes a bunny...I'm beginning to dislike them very much. Yesterday I noticed that a bunny had completely stripped 3 lilies I had planted last year in front of my Carefree Delight roses. I'm perturbed because I didn't get to see them bloom last year and would have liked to see them this year...Grrr! Oh well, such is life in the garden...I do have other lilies that they somehow managed to miss...I will enjoy those! :-)

Yeona...I have sinus problems all the time, so I was very interested in the humming suggestion. Hmm...maybe I'll start humming all those songs in my head.

Mary sounds like you had a lovely day, very relaxing...simple pleasures really are the best! :-) Reminds me of that song from some commercial many years ago..."Life's simple pleasures are the best...all the little things that make you smile and glow, all the things you know, life's simple pleasures are the best, are the best, in all the world." Anybody remember what commercial that was for?

V - sorry I missed you last night...I sent you another email and will try to call you tonight. What time would be best? Did your DD tell you I first asked for "V"...LOL!

Well one thing that has been really cheering me for the last week or so has been my lilac tree. The drought of last year really seemed to force the trees into tons of blooms (probably not a good sign - but it sure is beautiful). My Dogwood has never been so full of blooms, nor my apple tree and now the lilac tree has out done itself! With all those blooms the scent is not to be believed...just heavenly!:

Here's a pic for Deanne! :-) The Daybreaker rose standard is just starting to open its flowers. It a very pretty rose, think I'm going to like it a lot. As you can see it needs a good shaping, but don't have the heart to do it until this cycle of blooms are finished. Daybreaker says if I don't get it together, he is moving over to Deanne's house where he knows he'll get a proper pruning! :-)

So nice to hear of the butterflies and hummers visiting all you gardeners. No hummers here yet, but have seen some Monarchs, Swallowtails and few other butterflies that flitted so fast, I couldn't figure out who they were.

Funny story...when we had all the "students" here the other day, one of the girls had her chair on the deck, just under the lilac tree and she was commenting on how wonderful it was to sit there, how much she was enjoying the scent of the tree and the beautiful day. I said, "yes, don't you love a perfect day, when the sun is shining, the air is fresh and clean, the birds are singing and butterflies are flitting about"...just as I was getting the words out about "butterflies flitting about", one comes dancing past her face and "thwack", she slapped it out of her way. I was a little horrified, but it was also rather amusing, after what I had just said and the butterfly seemed none the worst for his thwack...he flew up into the lilac tree.

Suzy I have a weakness for Austin roses too. The blooms are always so beautiful...I *love* cabbagey roses (which he is famous four) and most of his roses have heavenly fragrances too... Just wish they were a little more disease resistant. I guess I've been lucky in that at least the D.A.'s I have have all been winter hardy. Once they have been in my garden for a couple of years I don't even bother to cover them anymore. Some of mine do seem to be weaker growers, Pat Austin is kind of weak in my garden, but I just love her flowers, so I nurse her along every year. How do you plant your D.A's? Is there a better way of planting them to get a better rose or is it for winter hardiness? You do live in a very pretty neighborhood and nice that there are only a few houses on your block.

Well some happy news (well, for me anyway)...looks like I won't be cooking dinner for the next two weeks. Hubby says he is "too fat" and only wants salads for dinner until he loses weight. He is not "too fat", but oh well, at least I don't have to cook and I suppose a little dieting wouldn't hurt me none either. So....how about some of your favorite salad recipes girls?

Okay folks, it's getting late and I want to get into the garden to weed and prune before it gets too hot. It's a pretty day here, despite the lack of rain.

Have a lovely day!


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Hi Sue! I'm *so* sorry! :-( I was hoping to hear better news! Wish you could send that wet stuff on to Michelle and I! I *know* you wish you could too! TTYL! Ei

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V congrats on the graduation festivities! Theyre a lot of fun, tiring & weepy.

Marie your Niobe looks so lush & green its foliage seems much lighter than mine (probably location siting?).. I love that Morden Surprise youre really getting into orange this year, arent you. But that rose has such subtle colorations & tinting quite lovely.

Mary I put my comments on the "suggestions" forum theres a threat re "clips" told them I thought they should keep that to the other areas & not the conversations. Good luck on getting all that year-end school stuff done!

Suzy wow, other than Free, 50 cents for a plant sounds pretty good to me. Hope you got some fun stuff youve been wanting. Looks like a neat list for such a haul! I may have to check out my local Lowes to see what theyre "giving" away.

Im feeling a bit blue today Mom is back in hospital w/ sepsis which is not good for someone in her compromised condition poor Dad is running back & forth to hospital I guess this means another trip to PA this weekend that I was hoping to avoid due to large road closures here in the DC area that are going to tie up "the beltway" (aka I-495) the main transit roads around the city guess it means I may have to be on the road by 6 a.m. or something gross like that to try to avoid the huge mess groan, groan.... Guess we all have our share of tending to family illnesses.

Ei love your Daybreaker standard its going to be fantastic when it all pops! That lilac tree is fantastic as well it reminds me of a huge old one at my Grandmoms house (apparently that tree was the only thing my grandfather tended to faithfully in the yard). Ive always wanted one but have such limited space & in this area they dont put on a very long show. I too love the Austins but am a bit unhappy w/ my Heritage but it has such a wonderful fragrance, everytime I think about hoiking it, the smell says "keep me keep me".... That will surely be a hard thing to have to dismantle your garden but youve got some "experts" here at GW from David to Taryn to give you some tips.

Count me in on wishing some of that rain would come my way as well (that probably falls in the be careful what you wish for category).... gee, were never happy w/ the weather are we?


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Gosh, there just wasn't enough happening here, so Mystic was happy to help me out. This morning while I was still waiting for the coffee to take effect, Mystic ate a sock. At first, I thought about denial ("No, he didn't really eat the sock, it just evaporated!") but then I decided that denial could result in a crisis just about the time the graduation party was supposed to start.

So we shipped him off to the vet's office this morning. He got a nice dose of peroxide to induce vomiting, and produced one sock!

DD, the owner of the sock, is headed out to pick him up. I had them save the sock for her.

V. the perpetually tired...

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Good Morning, We're having a gentle rainy day here today which we need. Things were beginning to dry out again. So far I've been lucky and haven't had to run the sprinkler yet this garden season. Just when it's getting to that point we seem to have a rain. I didn't mean to be missing from here for so long but have gotten a lot accomplished in the gardens. I was feeling overwhelmed with all I had to do but have finished the containers for the most part and have gotten the most pressing of chores done. Of course there's still the pot ghetto, but it's not so big this year, and planting of annuals to deal with but I'm feeling better about things at this point. I was going to take some pictures this morning before the rain started but had a dead camera battery so that will have to wait. Today will be a day of housecleaning which is badly needed.

I'm not even going to try to make comments on all I've missed but do want send Taryn my condolences for Bruce. I know he's at peace now but I can't help but think about Gigi and how lost I'd be feeling if I were in her place. I hope she's getting all of the support she needs from friends and family to get through such a tough time. On a happier note, Taryn, I'm so glad things are finally coming together for you on the house front. Your new place is beautiful and has so much gardening potential. I know you'll have it looking even more spectacular once you give it your special touch.

Sue, Happy Belated Birthday to you. Card to follow when camera's back in commission.

Marie, I picked up the coolest clematis the other day. It's called Tie Dye. Your clematis walk is really coming together! Can't wait to see it finished and in bloom one day soon.

V, glad the latest in "adventures with Mystic" turned out ok. Congrat to your dd on her graduation!

Hi to everyone else! The vacuums calling my name loudly after neglecting all manner of housework for the last week or so. Gotta get back at it!


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Marian, I ordered my Dell over the phone. That way we could change a few things and they were quite helpful with questions.

Ei, I will bring you a few cuttings of Vera Jameson in July. It stays about 8-10" tall for me. I have several that I have started from cuttings. We missed the rain too. Although, there is a 60% chance for tonight and tomorrow. I have been spot watering also. The last 2 summers I didnt have to water at all because of such timely rains. We have a well, so it doesnt cost me to water, but it is so much work.

Suzy, what a haul and the price cant be beat.

V, what a bummer about the sock incident. I hope all goes well with the graduation party.

I just knew that Eden was putting together her containers.


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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Okay, just in for a quick break and a cool drink. Do any of you shop at Trader Joe's? Right now I am sipping on the most delicious black tea ice tea from them. It taste just like home brewed and I like it because it's unadulterated; no sugar, no lemon - you have to add your own. Most premade ice teas have too much sugar for me. I also absolutely *love* their Sparkling Lemonade from France! It is so thirst quenching and delicious and as they say - "crisp & fresh". Yumm! I need to do more Trader Joe shopping. Anybody have a product from Trader Joe's that they absolutely love?

Also, does anybody have any idea what the heck would be knocking over the birdbaths that I filled last night!?! Whatever it is must be pretty big *and* strong. At first I thought it could be kids, but I really don't think so. I have *never* had any problems with kids being destructive to my property. I *do* believe it is a creature and a thirsty one at that. I feel badly for it that it is so desperate for a drink that it pillages my birthbaths. But I'm also pretty upset! One birdbath top had fallen on my red tree peony and broke a major 1 inch thick woody stem. That particular birdbath is *very* heavy. It also knocked over the leaf birdbath I made this year and broke the tip! :-( It also knocked over the small purple bird bath, but no damage to speak of, just a tiny chip. But I am heartbroken about my leaf bath and my tree peony! :-(

So, I cut one Miss Kim way down - we'll see if she springs back. The other was most definitely dying. I cut it all the way down and hope to dig the stump, but not today. Today I am transplanting my Heptacodium (Seven Son's Tree). I am most concerned because I couldn't even remember its name anymore and had to do a google search to figure it out. There was a time when I could remember every little plant that grew in my garden...the *one* thing I could remember. Anyway, I'm soaking Seven Sons right now and then will *try* to transplant it into the area where the dead Miss Kim is. Probably not the thing to do with no rains, but as they say "strike when the iron is hot" and I have the energy right now to do it. Don't know when I'll have the energy or time to do it otherwise.

I would also like to transplant a small tree I have, that has been crowded out by Viburnum 'Shasta'. The tree has been there for quite awhile, but not very big because it was a seedling when I planted it and as I say, crowded by Shasta. I'd like to move it to the driveway bed, to give me something nicer to look at outside my dining room window. But maybe I should wait to do that in fall? It's called Maackia amurensis...that I think I bought because it was recommended for its uniqueness, but to be honest, I haven't noticed anything so unusual about it. Maybe it will be more of a knock out once it has a space to call its own.

Anyway, great to see you Eden! :-) Don't worry, we gardeners understand totally. Glad you were able to get so much accomplished. Did you finish your walkway yet? When you do, I hope you will share pics!

Thanks Michelle! I would love a piece of Vera. Sorry the rains missed you too. Doesn't look like I'm predicted to get any rain until *maybe* this weekend.

Well, enough stalling...out to do the dirty deed. I hope Seven Sons will be forgiving...


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Eileen, I have a Maackia amurensis! It is several years old and is going to bloom this summer for the first time.I can hardly wait!
As for your bird baths, if it isn't kids it must be raccoons. They can be pretty distructive. That is a bummer about the damage. If it keeps on, gardeners will have to barracade their yards.
It is the antidepressant that caused the nausea. I made sure I took it on a full stomach this morning. So far I feel okay.
No, I haven't seen about an exchange for my range yet. I will go by the store when I'm done at the Dr. appointment tomorrow.

Eden, I agee with Ei, we fully understand.

Thanks for the input on the Dell. I guess I ought to get on the phone,but I sure hate doing business over the phone.

LOL, V. Maybe you aren't feeding Mystic enough? I'll stick with cats, they are much more picky about what they eat. :-)

Cindy, I put my opinion of the "clippings" on the Suggestion and Comments forum also.


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Sorry I don't have time to write a full post-hopefully later,BUT I *do* have to say...................................................................Suzy!!Did you say perennials at Lowe's for FIFTY CENTS???? I wonder if that's at all the Lowe's....hmmmm Indiana here I come! lol.

~B ; )

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Hi everyone!
Quicky here as I have to get the boys in 10 minuets at 3:15. Appreciate all the good thoughts continuuing for Gigi and the boys. Saturday will be hard, and father's day so close even harder, but she is strong and will be okay. We'll continue to be there for her, as I know a couple of other close freinds and neighbords will too.

Thanks so much for all the compliments and good wishes on our new home--we're soooo excited! As soon as I found this place online I *knew* this was the one! So glad it's still here now we've finally sold!

Hehehe, you guys with a Canadian Idyll plan going before I even get in there, lol, no pressure eh? (that's Canadian "eh?") But yes, we could certainly put up a lot of idyllers at the house, and would be half hour to Hamilton's international airport, under an hour to Janie, 1.5 hours to Toronto (not sure where Woody lives there), one hour and 40 minutes to 'Bug. I have a pot ghetto I'm bringing and was just going to toss sunlovers and shadelovers into lasagna gardens for the winter and plan over the winter, but maybe I better save all those cardboard boxes and start planning teh beds sooner? Lol, a possibility, but if so then you'll have to come back AGAIN when my gardens are DONE!

Haven't done more than scan my name, so quicky to those asking about the outbuildings. There are 3, 20'X between 85 and 100 feet, and they used to be hog barns decades ago. Steel walls, cement floors, wired. Glenn is going to make a 'jam hall' for his band in part of one, a 'spray booth' where he can paint cars in another part, and use the existing shop. We'll turn another one into an indoor skatepark with some ramps for the kids, and storage for all my dad's records at the other end. The other one is already a paintball area, again the kids will love.

That's all I have time for, gotta go now. Home inspection tomorrow morning, septic system inspection tomorrow afternoon, then insurance is the last condition to remove. Whoohoo!


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Hi Idylls! I seem to be doing all the things I hate back-to-back! Last nite I went to the mall and tried on bathing suits. YUK! I tried on a few of those "miracle suits". Well, folks, I need a BIGGER miracle, lol. The only good thing is that Im a few sizes smaller than I was. I dont look better, tho. Man, I hate bathing suits. Cant hide a thing.

Then I tried on summer clothes and decided on what to take on vacation. The good news was that I can fit into a lot of fav things in the back of my closet. The bad news was they needed a serious ironing. So I ironed upstairs while it was still cool. I hate ironing and hardly ever do it anymore.

I also discovered that one blouse I bot Sun. is too big, another I dont like and the bathing suit I bot yesterday still has the "security lok" on it. Its one of those inky things, so I have to have them remove it with a special tool. So another trip to the mall is required. GRRRRRRRR.

After dinner Mon. nite and another day w/o AC repairs, DH and I sat on the deck and he told me that he thot a serious analysis of project/home management was in order. As my "coach", hes reviewed my project performance and found it lacking. He thinks I need to do a "Deep and Wide", then a "5 Why", not to be confused with a "5-Step" and then a
"Decision Tree" to discover the root-cause of my failure to achieve successful resolution of my assignments. Then, if I dont resolve these difficulties forthwith, he might send me to PAT (Project Analysis Training). Needless to say, he was really skating on thin ice! He did make me laugh, tho, which I really needed.

Yesterday, I got a surprise phone call from T just to chat. T, it was so great hearing from you! We have to do that more often.

While on the phone w/T, miracle of all miracles happened YES, the A/C guy showed up WITH the CORRECT part. I had a reeeeaaaaaalllly hard time being civil to the guy, even tho it isnt his fault. Hes OK. Its his co. The A/C is working great, now that we dont need it! I hope that continues.

Thanks, Babs, for the info on why that doe might be hanging around. It is the season. I just chased her out of Ruths garden. It would be really easy to hide a fawn in the brush out back.

Deanne, you asked about my dahlias. Well, they are pretty sorry. First, I started them early and they got leggy b/c of low light. So I pinched them back. Then they got too wet, then too cold, then I roasted them in the greenhouse and then the wind broke them off! These poor things gotta be tough. Ive got most of them planted except an Ottos Thrill, a Thomas Edison and a Fascination.

I bot a few dahlias for my containers.

Gallery Art Deco:

Art Deco in a container with Coleus Kingswood Torch, Coleus Stained Glass Copper and Margarite"

When I was out with Eden, I found "Berliner Kleene". Its hard to photograph and get a good color representation. Heres a pic from the web:

It really goes well with the "Copperleaf Plant, Coleus "Emerald & Snow" and SPVs: in this container:

I used it differently on the front porch with Coleus Christmas Candy and Lemon Licorice:

Heres a new container this yr a gift from our friends and neighbors. In it are: Dahlia Autumn Fairy, Coleus Dark Star, Coleus Curley Freckles, an unnamed copper coleus, and Creeping Jenny.

Heres another new plant for me this yr: Japanese Morning Glory Mini Bar Rose

I have the trellis covered b/c its already too wet and its raining. It has real pretty variegated foliage. When it recovers from my drowning it, Ill take a pic of the new trellis and hopefully a healthy looking vine.

Lastly, do you guys know about the new self-cleaning Verbena hybrids? I have two of the series Temari and Babylon:

I really like this one next to Hosta montana aureomarginata. It's Verbena Temari Patio Blue

I have this one in a windowbox. It's Verbena Babylon Carpet Blue

Sue, I have several areas that need diversification in foliage color and texture, too. It is interesting how looking at the same area from a different vantage point gives a fresh perspective.

Enough babble from me today. I need to read and comment on what you all have been up to and will comment later. Hi to all!


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Oh Honey! I love your color combos/plant choices for your containers! I have that 'stained glass' copper coleus too that I used with a few of Deanne's plants she sent. The blue purples look great with the copper coleus-I might have to get some of the verbena you found to add to my pots. That unnamed coleus in the gift basket reminds me of Coleus 'Sedona'?
That is such a gorgeous morning glory!Did you grow that from seed??

BTW Deanne 'Beacon' is budding up for me too! I planted that one among my hostas in the ground by our brick sitting area. I'm pushing the fertilizer and the plants are responding nicely. 'Iresine' is gorgeous! I was afraid I would lose it because it had a slow start but it's coming along-I love when the evening sun shines through the leaves-it glows.

Taryn sorry-we did sound kind of pressing didn't we; ) Take your time we'll give you a couple years to get settled then we'll descend like vultures.Oops pressure again lol.
Wow the outbuildings sound so cool-you might not see Glen for days between the car shop and the music studio; ) And will there be a greenhouse one day?

Mary yes! clip away at the fawn. Anyone may copy that pic if they want it.

Michelle-you are so sweet! I of course would love some sedum and I'd only take a variegated iris rhizome if you have too many(can that ever be?). I don't have very special plants but I would love to share something with you-maybe I could list what I have and you can decide what you'd like.

I was wondering if the airlines have probs with passengers toting plants-Sue & others what's your experience? Maybe it ony matters if your leaving the country?

HI Eden! I can't wait to see those containers!

: ( no rain today.

Sorry I can't yap more-Chris says one of our friends is heading toward a divorce so I need to go touch base with him and find out what the heck happened. Chris said this couple seemed really happy and in a good place just a month ago. Why do people get so impulsive when things get rough?

Little Miss Ei,and how does your garden grow? lol.


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I got the dahlias planted tonight and a few miscellaneous annuals. Im going to whip that pot ghetto yet. I spent a little time dead heading which I am far behind with. All the iris are blooming like crazy right now. The roses are getting started.

Babs, no problem. I have a fairly good size clump of the iris.

Honey, what eye candy your containers are.

Ei, I agree about the raccoons. Rick used a live trap to trap some that were in our barn. They were huge, probably 50-60 lbs.

Look what I found tonight. I usually dont get them until much later in the summer. It must be the warm weather. I planted Asclepias incarnata just to attract them to my yard. Milkweed is the only food that the monarch caterpillars can eat.

This is the first bloom for this iris. I couldn't remember what I had planted. It is fun to finally see it bloom.

Night all

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Full_Bloom(z5 IL)

Good Morning Idylls!

No time to dawdle...out to the garden with me, much weeding to do, thank you Miss Babs! :-)

Had to take a moment to comment though...Honey! Your containers are just *gorgeous* (as I knew they would be) and I too *love* all the color combos! What a sweet friend and neighbor to give you that lovely container...such pretty combinations and so thoughtful. Sounds like you have lots of nice neighbors...That's good! :-) I bought a few bulbs of those Gallery Series Dahlias this year, after Deanne's recommendation. My 'Art Nouveau' are doing well, but 'Pablo' doesn't want to seem to sprout! :-( Now I want to try Rembrandt & your beautiful Art Deco...well, actually, I'd like to try them all. I love that they are named after "art"! Still loving your copperleaf....I never did find any...well, I'll keep watching. I wonder if you can carry that one over easily with cuttings, like coleus. Thanks about the tip on verbenas. I love their flowers & colors, but deadheading was a pain. Will have to add those to my list for next year...in fact, I just did! :-)

Michelle *loved* seeing the caterpillar! *I* think they are beautiful! :-) Your Iris is gorgeous too! Do you know which one it is?

Good Morning Marian...Hope all goes well with your Dr. appointment and your visit to the store...will be thinking of you! I didn't even know Maackii bloomed! Actually, I didn't remember anything about it, since I bought it so many years ago. Looked in Dirr last night to find out more about it. Says it is a *slow* grower (that makes sense) and he likes the tree. I am definitely going to try to transplant it by the driveway and give it more room to show its stuff. Let me know how you like the flowers and whether they are fragrant...that is so exciting!

Okay, gotta go...have a great day all! Ei

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Good morning Babs! I've been taking plants on planes for years. I have a well-traveled garden... Anyway, as long as you pack them well, the airlines don't have a problem with them. What I usually do is plan to have room in a carry-on bag to put the plants. If the stems are prone to snapping, I will trim the plant back a little. I'll use some plastic bags to keep the soil and moisture from getting all over everything else in the bag. Small pots travel the best, mostly because if you have more than one, large pots start to get darn heavy! In fact, last year I bought a small viburnum at Variegated Foliage Nursery and I ended up dumping about half of what was in the pot before I packed the plant - it was a rather heavy potting mix. Half a pot of dirt doesn't sound like a lot, but it all adds up!

And of course, you want to unpack your babies as soon as you get home.

I had a nice long chat with Ei last night and plans are coming together for July. JULY? DID I JUST SAY JULY??? That's like next month!?! Just kidding, I really am under control. really. Honestly. (If I keep telling myself this it must be true.)

Seriously, I hope to get a group email out soon, but it may not be until after the grad party on Sunday. I need to get final travel details from a few people and I want to survey a couple of you about some options for Saturday.

Babs, let me offer a little more unsolicited advice. You posted a few days ago about AJ's school and shrinking class sizes. My DS and DD went to a private school (Montessori) through 5th grade. DS switched private schools at 4th grade because we moved, and his new class had only 6 or 7 boys in it. He never really clicked with that group of boys and that was a big factor in my decision to switch him to the public school at 6th grade. (In our area, middle school starts at 6th grade.) while there are always ups and downs in switching schools, overall I think it worked well for him and the first friend he made in 6th grade is the guy he is currently rooming with at school. I think the key to the small class size is to keep an eye on how AJ is fitting in and getting along. When it's a small number, if you don't fit in you really stick out.

Here's today's story. You've all heard me talk about the family cabin in Ontario. There is a cabin next to ours that is owned by a family from Wisconsin. They have a daughter the same age as our son. The year that they were both 15, there was a little summer crush thing that went on for the week we were at the cabin. The next year, the summer crush was her best friend who was with her. With email and instant messaging, the kids kept in touch on and off throughout the year. Last summer when we were at the cabin, the big news was that the daughter was engaged and her fiance was with her. It was funny, because she barely acknowledged our presence for the entire week. Well, last night, DS got an invitation to her wedding! I wouldn't have thought this was totally weird if it weren't for the way that she snubbed him (and the rest of us) last summer. Why would you invite someone to your wedding when you can't be bothered to even say hello?

Ah well, life is funny. time to work!


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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

It's the real thing! Yes, black spot, heat, rain, caterpillars, mosquitos...and company coming to see the clematis! So I'm on my way out the door to try to do my best before tomorrow.

Following along and enjoying photos!

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Good morning. Just wanted to mention that I've started a Happy Birthday to EP thread. She is still on dial up, still unable to get into GW---I think the problem is similiar to what Woody experiences, they get a message that something is downloading into their computer when they attempt to log in or GW doesn't recognize their information. EP even re-registered and that didn't work---if my memory is correct. Anyway, when I sent her birthday wishes last night this is what I received.....she says I can share it---so here it is:

Thanks for thinking of me. I try to read the idylls but the threads get too heavy to open so haven't had an update for a few days. Here, the gardens are beautiful in the morning light and the cat bird is awake and chatting away. Our family are all being adventurous and fullfilling. I am thinking about scrambled eggs and muffins for breakfast and then I think I'll cut some stoksia asters and shasta daisies to decorate the table. Lots of flowers are blooming now including salvias, shastas, stoksias, balsam, day lilies, asiatic lily, Indian blanket, allyssum, lavender, gypsophilia, petunias, verbena, zinnias, crinum lily. The petunias are very fragrant and perfume the air. Most of it is either perennial or self sown. I enjoy going out and wandering. I put together a recipe for muffins that I really like. It includes flax meal and has no fat, eggs, or lactose when made with apple sauce. I like to slice the muffin and spread with cream cheese. Having a happy life and plan to stay that way.. Please let me know when the twins arrive. You may share this with everyone if you wish. I think of and wish the best for everyone. hug. juni (x/ep)
(juni is the name she uses on another gardening forum site)

There were a few elk in the upper backyard this morning. Their fur is a deep reddish brown...a very rich and beautiful color against the light green spring grass. One large cow was limping badly. Her right back leg wasn't working properly. Hopefully she only twisted it. There were only 5 elk and none with horns. It is the calving time of the year wonder if that is why they are moving about in such small numbers.

Overcast and cool this morning. My cup of coffee has gotten cold, I guess I'll go make a new one. DH worked from noon yesterday until 3:30 this morning...he is sleeping and thus my only job will be to keep things quiet until he awakens. Tough job, lol, but someone has to take on the tough duties (this is tongue in cheek, of course).

Hope all is well with everyone.....

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honey_mi(Z5 MI)

V, I wonder if the girl in question felt embarrassed and just didn't know how to handle her "former" and his family. Perhaps she's grown a bit emotionally since then and realized how important long-term friendships are or her parents stepped in.

Thanks, Ei, Babs, Michelle re the containers. I do think that copper one is "Sedona" but w/o a tag I couldn't be sure. I don't know about the copperleaf plant. It's stems are more woody than coleus. But I sure would like to try to overwinter some. It is really a pretty plant even on it's own.

You guys are so right about our friends and neighbors. They're great people and very special to us. They were the first ones to say "Hi" when we moved in here and we have alot in common. We visit a bit almost every day and often grab a bite to eat and/or a movie together.

She is a real sweetie. Despite having MS (she's responded wonderfully to some new meds), she works and is very active. Her symptoms are minor and under control. They do give us great, thotful items for xmas. She helps her good friend and sorority sister, a vendor to gift shop owners, every year hold a special sale of the samples. So my friend is able to buy really cool items for pennies on the dollar. I always enjoy looking at the treasures she gets every year.

Michelle, I love that Iris! Gorgeous. And great shot of that catepillar! Hmmmm, you're definitely up there with the great idyller shutterbugs -- Deanne, Babs, 'Bug, etc. I hear you re the plant ghetto. I'm hoping to make good headway on mine today.

Marian, hope your Dr's appt. goes well, today. What did you decide to do re your stove?

Yesterday I stopped at my membership store and picked up another container. DH said, "Yeah, you need another one!" Well, I do. I have too many plants left over and needed another pot to put them in! I know you guys would understand the logic of it.

I'm glad to hear that you guys, gardening divas all, haven't gotten strong performance out of Beverly Sills. I thot it was just me. I divided her last yr. and was surprized I got blooms from some of the smaller pieces:

And here are two gorgeous ones that Jain gave me. I think I'm going to find a spot for them in the front landscape. (I miss that girl and still wish she'd post here again!):

Well, I have to order a plant for a friend who lost his father over the weekend, send out some other cards to ill friends, etc. Thinking of all! TTYL,


    Bookmark   June 8, 2006 at 9:53AM
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honey_mi(Z5 MI)

I forgot to respond to Babs -- Babs, no I bot that Japanese Morning Glory and first put it out too soon and second, placed it under a gutter that overflowed during our heavy rains a couple weeks ago. I've been trying to dry out the soil ever since b/c it's clearly too wet.

I also forgot to acknowledge some of the pix and posts of Cindy, Wendy, Yeona, Sue, Eden, Monique, 'Bug, Taryn, Babs, Mary, Ei and Marian. I'm so looking forward to seeing y'all at IU3!!! Hey V, let me know if I can help!


    Bookmark   June 8, 2006 at 10:16AM
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Marian...thanks for checking in! We worry about you; you know? So glad the kids were in to visit with your DS and glad the new stoves suits you better. I was thinking the same as Eden, maybe you could move that air conditioner into your bedroom at night, at least sleeping may be a little more comfortable. How has the weather been for you lately? Are all the pots of color on your deck still making you smile? I hope so! :-)

Michelle...so sorry about the dry weather I know how disheartening that can be. Hopefully, the rains will find you soon. It is amazing how quickly things will perk up with a little rain (including our spirits)! :-) Its been dry here too, though weve had an occasional rain, enough to keep things going anyway. And we are expecting more later in the week Im keeping good thoughts about that. When I was checking my weather, I looked up the Davenport area and they are suppose to have some rain this week-end...hope they makes it to you. I *loved* your song...brought back great memories for me; back in the 7th & 8th grade when we use to have Coke dances. Back in the innocent days, when a Coke was a sugary fizzy liquid that you would drink. That song was playing and I was waiting and waiting and waiting for a certain boy to ask me to dance, sadly he never did...but I still love the song! :-)

Babs! Thanks for sharing your special moment. It sounds like a wonderful time and you are quite eloquent yourself. Dont think Id make it as a writer or a philosopher though, since I had to check for the spelling of eloquent...LOL! Please, Please, Please...share the ant when you guys are done...I cant wait to see him! :-) LOL Babs & Michelle on the PMS. I can say with almost 100% certainty, that I *never* PMS anymore! :-) At my age I just have to call it crabby! :-) Oh Babs...been meaning to say to you...Do you remember when I posted that lavender colored Clematis that Marie identified as Betty Corning? I notice you were saying you wanted a bell-shaped clematis. Well, it is lavender colored and is "bell-shaped" and I have to say that I am loving Betty Corning. This is only the 2nd year and she has just been blooming and blooming and blooming her fool head off, with new buds opening every day. I dont know if thats normal, like I say, I havent had her long, but if she keeps this up she is going to end up being my favorite clematis of all time. BTW, I use to grow the white one you were talking about Sweet Autumn (or whatever they call it these days) and it is a beautiful thing in fall, with tons of fragrant blooms, but you really need a "big space" for it. Pretty enthusiastic and does re-seed. I *loved* mine, but had to finally let her go when she swallowed my honeymoon swing and the telephone pole and seeded herself all over the garden. It was just too hard to keep her in control, but I sure did enjoy her and I sure *do* miss her lovely late summer blooms.

Honey...I agree totally...thats "TRUE LOVE"! :-)

Eden I sure hope you can make it, you would be sorely missed, but more than that, I hope that your mom has a successful, uneventful recovery and I will be keeping good thoughts. I cant believe your Graham Thomas...what a knockout! I have him, but he sure doesnt look like yours, perhaps its because hes been moved around the garden at least four times...LOL! Hope everyone in your family is on the mend with the bug thats been going around

Thanks Mary, you hit the nail on the head! Funny, that is something DH and I talk about all the time, how "things" can never make you happy (although hubby does love a nice car...LOL). But seriously, we have talked about that very subject so many times. How getting caught up in "bigger, better" only steals your "life hours". We have also both agreed that the next house will be smaller and less expensive and DHs goal is to actually take a step back in the career aspect, something with less responsibility and stress and I will find a part time job to fund my gardening hobby...obsession, I mean. I guess that is probably not uncommon for people our age (DH & me) to think in those terms. The older I get, the more I want a simpler life. BTW, good luck with the essay and promotion. I agree with Babs, youre a sure bet.

My special moment today was finding 3 vintage gardening books for my BF Anitas birthday coming up. I was able to find A Womans Hardy Garden, The Little Bulbs, and Elizabeths German Garden...all in hardcover 1st or 2nd editions...and very inexpensively, I might add! Im so tickled because I know she is going to be so tickled! She has been looking for those 3 books ever since she read mine years ago. :-)

Thanks for the ID on your Eryngium Marie. That Centaurea is so pretty...your poppy too! :-) Oh and that Petit Faucon what a *gorgeous* color! I think Id like to find a place for that in my garden. Moose tracks sounds really yummy about now. Ive been mulching, mulching, mulching (thats why I havent been back here) and I bet I could still use about 20 more bags...sigh. I will say that spreading by the bag is easier than when Ive had the "pile" delivered here, but its probably a bit more expensive too in the long run.

Sue...I laughed when you said "Will it never end?" and then Marie said "Hopefully not." I agree with you both! I know I always want to futz in the garden, its my hangout and my respite, but sometimes I think, just *once* it would be so nice to walk into the garden and think "How lovely and there is not a single thing I need to do, but enjoy it!"

Hi V! :-) Ive been thinking about you. Glad you had a reward for all your hard work. I love a good cookie too...sometimes they dont even have to be baked! :-) Your talk of Starbucks has convinced me I need to get over there and get myself a Frappuccino. I deserve it after all the mulching!

Well, I guess I best be moving, first to Starbucks and then back out to the garden. "Hi" to all I missed. Hope everyone has a great day! TTYL!


The Ink Spots - Java Jive

I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup (boy!)

I love java, sweet and hot
Whoops Mr. Moto, I'm a coffee pot
Shoot the pot and I'll pour me a shot
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup

Oh slip me a slug from the wonderful mug
And I'll cut a rug just snug in a jug
Waiter, waiter, percolator
I love coffee, I love tea
I love the java jive and it loves me
Coffee and tea and the java and me
A cup, a cup, a cup, a cup, a cup

    Bookmark   June 16, 2006 at 1:16PM
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The song that you are referring to above "life's simple pleasures are the best..." is from Van Camp's Pork and Beans television commercial sometime in the 60's is my guess, when I was a kid.

I've been searching for the jingle for Van Camp's Pork and Beans that has the 'simple pleasures are the best' I have that song in my head, but I really want to have it on my computer so I can play it to remind me of the simple times back in the early 60's and also to play to my wife who has never heard it before.

Do you know where I can get a copy of the song to listen to?

Any help would be appreciated.


    Bookmark   October 31, 2007 at 12:24AM
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