Not Virginia Creeper or Ginseng?

MarcPerr(5)June 7, 2014

I'm fairly sure this is neither Virginia Creeper or Ginseng but what is it? I am finding it mostly in shaded areas, often alongside what clearly IS Virginia creeper.

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fatamorgana2121(Zone 5/6)

Looks like virginia creeper to me. Why do you think it's not? Is it because it is behaving like a ground cover instead of a vine? Does that in deep shade.

FataMorgana

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 7:48PM
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MarcPerr(5)

I don't think of Virginia Creeper as having leaflets on petioles. Maybe it is, but I'm not convinced.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2014 at 11:50PM
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ottawavalleygardener

Looks exactly like Virginia Creeper to me too.

Here is a link that might be useful: Virginia Creeper

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 8:40AM
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calliope(6)

Ditto

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 8:59AM
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MarcPerr(5)

Then, why do some VC have leaflets on petioles and others do not? The VC in this photo looks the same size but the leaflets are attached to the main stem. Are there different varieties?

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 9:16AM
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ottawavalleygardener

This is another picture of virginia creeper... you can see the similarities to your vine. I think there are just variations in growth pattern.

Here is a link that might be useful: pic

This post was edited by ottawavalleygardener on Sun, Jun 8, 14 at 10:22

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 10:21AM
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MarcPerr(5)

Yes, ottawavalleygardener, that picture looks just like the second photo I uploaded where the leaflets are attached to the stem. That's my dilemma, why are the leaflets on the other plant on long petioles? I suppose I should call them petiolules.

This post was edited by MarcPerr on Sun, Jun 8, 14 at 11:35

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 11:25AM
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Dave in NoVA • 7a • Northern VA

Virginia creeper with an underplanting of poison ivy.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 11:28AM
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MarcPerr(5)

Yes, dave-in-nova, lol, I do see the poison ivy. It grows everywhere here. It especially loves hiding out in virginia creeper.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 11:38AM
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ottawavalleygardener

I just took pictures of one of my Virginia Creepers, and if the link works, you can see that on the same plant, there are variations re: petiole.

Here is a link that might be useful: virginia creeper

    Bookmark   June 8, 2014 at 1:18PM
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