Sambucus pubens elder similar to Sambucus canadensis?

toronado3800 Zone 6 StLouis(6)February 4, 2013

I have a spot in a row of black walnuts where a bit of a thicket of Sambucus canadensis fights off the hated honeysuckle and thrives. Can I expect the same from Sambucus pubens the scarlet elder or is it in any way more dainty? I have another patch of honeysuckle cleared and viburnums do not handle the walnuts or shade well.

Thanks in advance.

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jimbobfeeny(5a IN)

Scarlet elder grows well enough for me, but it is a shrub of cooler climates. It definitely is not as vigorous as common elderberry, requiring cool, moist conditions for best growth. (it is pretty, though!)

You might try Maple Leaf Viburnum - Around here, it is one of the best shrubs for shade. It seems to take black walnut all right.

Another interesting shrub is wild hydrangea (Hydrangea arborescens) - Especially the cultivars like "annabelle" and "grandiflora". They do need constant moisture, though.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2013 at 8:11PM
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toronado3800 Zone 6 StLouis(6)

I like the viburnum family as a whole. Maybe I'll order another mix and see what takes up there. Thanks for the tip.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2013 at 8:00AM
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