Witch Hazel and shape question

libraqueen81March 1, 2014

Hello! I'm zone 5, I want to get a Witch hazel but there are so many to choose from. I want more red and orange foliage per autumn and a bright folliage in summer time.
Zone 5 people with witch hazels: Which ones do you have and which seem most reliable in terms of coloring and beauty in the different seasons?

Second question is, I read up on the different "shapes" of the shrubs and am confused by up right and vase shaped. Can some one please break it down for me? The wishape of witch hazel I am hoping for is 8-10 tall and with hopes it will spread out wide!
Thank you!

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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

They all grow in some version of a vase shape and will get taller and wider than 10 ft. over time - be sure to allow for plenty of spread.

    Bookmark   March 1, 2014 at 6:01PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

the one i had in my Z5 MI .... that did not grow with any vigor at all ... not that it died or anything... i just never saw it growing into a large plant ... and i had it at least 7 years or so ...

but that was 25 odd years ago...

i THINK... the name had something to do with arnold ... otherwise... of the 1750 plants i potted and moved to my new house.. i left this one ... if that tells you much of anything ...

i was not really interested in crawling out there.. in the middle of late winter.. to see some miniscule flower.... and the plant was a bit lackluster the rest of the year ...

so that begs the question ... why are you so interested in WHazel????

imho .... there are a lot more... better.. options ... but if you insist.. all the power to ya..

what about a fragrant viburnam ... like mohawk ... to die for scent ... and it will get to the size you want .. and when it does.. you cant kill it for mowing it down with a truck ... lol ..

so at least tell us.. where in z5 you are.. its a giant area ...


ps: to me.. vase shape implies... a single trunk ... and a "V' on top ... like a vase ... upright would be more like a cylinder ... from earth to sky ... as wide from top to bottom ... google WH arnold.. flip to the images side ....and you will see that .. in theory .. they are vase shaped ... and mine never looked like those.. lol... vase shape.. is improved.. with some selective pruning...

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark   March 2, 2014 at 9:24AM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

'Arnold Promise' is a large and vigorous kind frequent on the market that is named after the Arnold Arboretum. 7 years is not long enough to see a fully developed specimen, especially if it was having problems.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2014 at 12:21PM
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viburnumvalley(z5/6 KY)

This is what is worth going out in the winter to see.

Plant it near your daily circuit, and no extra effort is required.

I have plenty of the fragrant viburnums, too, which provide another round of olfactory satisfaction months later.

    Bookmark   March 2, 2014 at 4:02PM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Planting needs an evergreen backdrop - especially the Hamamelis.

    Bookmark   March 3, 2014 at 12:02PM
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I have Jelena which usually is the first to bloom in late Feb. Very cool plant. Another is the common witch hazel which is my last to bloom into January.

    Bookmark   March 4, 2014 at 6:07AM
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Thanks everyone!
I'm IL Z5. Have a large wooded lot ..in a hill! Hubby doesn't want to mow grass anymore so he suggested I plant everywhere! Sun and shade zones on my property are weird due to the trees and bare patches, so I've been trying to think out of the box.

I have a lot of windows in my home so seeing the colored blooms on a witch hazel will not be too difficult..there's no way I will plant something I have to trudge downhill to see in the snow! I love copper and red-orange colors...so I think I may try a Jelena or Diane. I like big plants..so if they get monstrous, that will make me happy.

Thank you for clearing up the shape confusion because I just look at a plant and think..oh its a bush or oh its globe like..I guess I have fear of getting something that's too formed..I want my garden to be more relaxed in form.

    Bookmark   March 6, 2014 at 6:43PM
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