Looking for Old Fashion Deep Purple lilac

joetoeMarch 21, 2014

My wife want a old fashion deep purple lilac bush and I have no ideal where one can find or order one. If you know were one can get one I would be very thankful.

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laceyvail(6A, WV)

The huge suckering Syringa vulgaris that you're looking for is called Andenken an Ludwig Spaeth-- or just Ludwig Spaeth.

If you see one around that you like, ask the owners if you can dig a sucker.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2014 at 7:00AM
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bboy(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

As long as it's not grafted - otherwise the sucker might not be the named variety with the dark flowers.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2014 at 1:18PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

old fashioned would imply.. its been around a hundred years or so ... and i doubt they would be grafted ...


that is really the only time you can get EXACTLY what you want ...

and no one has ever turned me down ...

i then dig a 6 to 12 inch sucker ... with some little bit of root ... stick it in a one gallon pot with some old wet media .. just a few inches.. and the pot holds up the top part ...... and leave it on the north side of the house [bright but no sun] ... to grow roots.. until i can plant it in fall ...

or in the case of the one in front of my house right now.. its been sitting there in about 3 inches of media for ... well.. it will be 3 years this spring at bloom time... lol .... i have moved it once in a while to insure it didnt root out the bottom ...

i swear to God.. i will plant it when the ground thaws.. now that i have mocked myself piteously ... lol..

BTW... i rarely if ever remembered to water it ... you can barely kill these things ... as long as it has some root on it ...


    Bookmark   March 22, 2014 at 7:18PM
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Steve Massachusetts Zone 5b


In addition to Ludwick Spaeth. I would recommend S. vulgaris "Sarah Sands" or a more recent hybrid S. vulgaris Yankee Doodle. One that is dark purple with double flowers is S. vulgaris Charles Joly.

You might try Fox Hill Lilac Nursery in Maine for a good selection. I use Syringa Plus in West Newbury, MA. But that's because they're close. Both nurseries do mail order in this here Internet.


Here is a link that might be useful: Fox Hill Lilac Nursery

    Bookmark   March 22, 2014 at 7:39PM
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bboy(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

'Andenken an Ludwig Spath' dates from 1883. So that makes it 131 years old.

"Perhaps the most popular lilac, one of the most consistent and reliable"

-- The Hillier Manual of Trees & Shrubs (2002, Hillier Nurseries)

Syringa vulgaris cultivars have been much grafted in the past. Specimens consisting of a named scion surrounded by suckers coming from a less impressively flowered root-stock is not rare in plantings of some age.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2014 at 11:23PM
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