Fine Line buckthorn in snow?

lily_g(7b Ga)April 13, 2009

Can anyone report on how well the Fine Line buckthorn (Rhamnus frangula "Ron Williams') held up in the big snow we had in the Southeast in March? It sounds perfect for me for a certain spot, but I've been wondering if the heavy snow or ice we get in Georgia every 4 or 5 years will eight down the branches and ruin the shape.


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Fledgeling_(4b SD)

Poorly, a hedge of it in the area was completely trashed by a ice storm a few years ago. And even if it was not, buckthorn, both common and this species (glossy) is an absolutely horrible weed that is destroying natural areas as well as being weedy in towns as well. There are hundreds upon hundreds of this weedy woody plant within a mile of where I am now, coming up agains buildings and in unmowed patches of land. Do not -ever- plant this species. Please.

    Bookmark   April 17, 2009 at 12:16AM
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lily_g(7b Ga)

The Kemper Center for Home Gardening at the Missouri Botanical Garden warns that the species is invasive, but recommends the Fine Line cultivar, reporting that the few seeds it produces are non-viable. Fine Line has ferny foliage--I don't know if it's glossy or not. Have you observed that this cultivar is invasive in SD? I surely don't want another invasive around here--we have enough kudzu, privet, and (non-native) honeysuckle already!
The Kemper Center:

    Bookmark   April 17, 2009 at 12:27PM
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Fledgeling_(4b SD)

Hum. To be honest, I saw berries produced and I assumed that the berries contained viable seeds. I can tell you with certainty that both of it's parents are known to be able to escape and most seedlings produced by both them readily revert to the typical from. IF it truly produces all non-viable seeds... then it may not be a problem. However, I know of quite a few examples where supposedly seedless strains/cultivars of certain invasive plants either produce seed with the right pollinator (purple loostrife and Bradford pear) or were MOSTLY seedless but the limited amounts of viable seeds were able to successfully invade and start populations (some grass strain that I can't remember off the top of my head).

So if it truly is seedless, then it may not be an issue. But as you can tell I am skeptical as seedless claims, as many are often not completely accurate. These plants truly are scary around here so my advice would be to avoid it, but IF the claim is completely true it may be a viable option after all... but I would suggest looking for an alternative first anyways. Just my two cents.

    Bookmark   April 17, 2009 at 12:48PM
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