Dappled Willow by foundation

DertJune 22, 2014

Ok so I bought a dappled willow salix integra hakuro nishiki and planted it before i did any research on it. Just starting to get into gardening so i really dont know much of anything right. Its planted about 9 feet from the foundation. Also my piping from the basement exits the front of the house where its planted. I have read that this type of willow is really invasive on the roots and i have read that its not. If i have to remove it and put it somewhere else i will. I do not want to have any foundation issues or broken pipes. I have a pic posted on where its at. I am also in the west suburbs of chicago, i dont know the region. There was a lot of clay i had to dig out so its not alot of soft soil. Can someone please help me if i need to remove it from that area or not or if i can train the roots to grow away from the house if thats possible.

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heres a pic of the tag

    Bookmark   June 22, 2014 at 5:14PM
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This is considered a shrub willow, does not have invasive roots and is of minimal concern planted near a foundation or even close to underground plumbing. This specific example is in a "standard" form or the shrub grafted to another willow species. While this is of no particular concern to the foundation (no willows have that issue), it could be problematic if planted close to the inground plumping. Still, the root habit of this type of willow is far less aggressive than those of the tall growing corkscrew or weeping willows.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2014 at 5:45PM
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Thank you gardengal48, there was so much info that was all over the place when researching. I am glad i will not have to move it. How often should i water the willow, i have noticed already i am gettting dead leaves on there after just a few weeks planted.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2014 at 8:21PM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Depends on how robust the rootstock used is. I have seen some of these grafted on quite different, bigger growing kinds of willows. But you wouldn't expect any S. integra to be stuck on something that wanted to get as big as, for instance a gold-twig willow.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2014 at 8:41PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

crikey ... why even sell a plant on a standard.. that cant hold itself up ...

anyway ... trees can NOT .. do NOT .. carry small little drills and chisels... to break into modern pvc piping.. nor jackhammers to break thru new cement ...

your house looks brand new .... i doubt.. in your lifetime.. you will have any issue from this plant ... unless your basement/foundation is already cracked ... and then you already have other problems ...

my parents house.. the line to the sewer was adobe pipes.. about 2 or 3 feet long.. packed with oakum ... high tech 1950s ... over the ensuing 50 years.. the oakum dissolved.. and the trees invading the pipes... i just dont see how they can get into modern chemical welded pvc type piping ...

and when a root hits an object.. it goes around it ... unless it finds a pre existing crevice or whole.. that somehow attracts water ... such as what we here in MI would call a MI basement... an old farm basement ... stacked field stone lets say ...

i simply dont see it as an issue ... in your lifetime ...

you need to stake that thing better ... and that does not involve string .. nor guy wires ...

i would get a stake at least as thick.. if not thicker than the trunk... gently guide it right down thru the root mass ... and pound it into the earth once past the root ball you planted ... and then i would take something like old pantyhose... and tie it.. about every 6 inches.. to the stake ... in essence... i would be splinting [think broken arm] ... the entire length of the trunk to a new temporary trunk .... its near impossible to express in words .. and i dont have time to google it for you ... and i would untie and retie it in spring and fall .. until it can hold itself up ....

and this is water under the bridge... a lesson ... not criticism... i would not have bought that plant.. for this reason ... i would have walked right by it.. seeing the nightmare... or i would have paid more... for one with a proper trunk ... ah well.. live and learn ...


    Bookmark   June 23, 2014 at 9:49AM
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IanW Zone 5 Ont. Can.

Good post Ken!!.....
Couldn't have said it better.....about roots and foundations and staking.....

Don't agree about your comment about the selection of tree, (but some people like it and others don't).....

    Bookmark   June 24, 2014 at 8:03AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

i think you misunderstand me ian ..

i have wanted this plant for a decade ... [not on a standard mind you]

what i would NOT have bought.. was a plant that can grow 2 or 3 feet per year.. on a quarter inch standard ... yes.. i know i am exaggerating a bit ... to make my point ....

but crikey man.. if it cant hold itself upright with one season growth ..... the grower failed.. dont you think???


ps: i bought a plant this tall once.. with that diameter trunk.. and stringed it up just like this... first summer... yellow/green sky thunder showers rolls thru.. and snapped it right off where the guy wires were attached to the trunk ... thats when i learned also.. to splint the trunk ... rather than guy wire it ... unfortunately.. that is not a tree term.. and unsearchable ... where is +om when you need him????

    Bookmark   June 24, 2014 at 1:26PM
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Ken, just like with any other type of plant, the trunk on a standard (grafted) dappled willow will develop sufficient girth in time to easily support the topgrowth. The stake is only provided as a temporary support, as is the case with just about any other shrub grown as a standard, and as protection for the plant during the shipping and transport process.

And also, the topgrowth on these standard tree-form willows is typically pruned back each season to keep them dense and compact and in proportion to the height. It would look pretty silly to have a 4' tall standard sporting a 6'x6' willow topper!!

    Bookmark   June 24, 2014 at 2:07PM
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svtterminator(5 Chicago)

I bought this same tree just like you from Menards and am also in the Chicagoland area. I just hope it can handle tons of water. I planted it near my sump pump discharge line and there has been standing water there for 3 days now.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 11:44PM
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IanW Zone 5 Ont. Can.

Willows like moist soil, but sitting in standing water may drown the roots....I would keep an eye on it .....if leaves start to wilt (like a plant that looks like it needs water).....it is probably drowning....

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 8:02AM
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