Green weed on a sizeable pond

peterrebOctober 13, 2010

I have a farm pond quite large by garden ponds standards probably about 100 ft x 30 very rough estimate, it is covered in a green weed like little stars when I say throw a stone in they part and then recover the hole again, I have heard that Barley straw will help but can I put this in when it is already completely covered in this weed, it is far to big to treat with any sort of chemicals, the size of it I would think would need at least 6 / 8 full bales or more but my question is will it work when it is already covered completely . . .

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serenae(6)

It sounds like Fairy moss, which isn't a bad thing to have as it serves as food for birds and fish.

If you want to get rid of these surface plants, I think the best thing to do is manually scoop them out, but they multiply rapidly.

Or get lots of hungry koi!

    Bookmark   October 14, 2010 at 5:19AM
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peterreb

Thankx for the reply but maybe this is not the weed I may have led you to think it is as chokes everything up and you can not see one clear patch of water looks horrible, when I had Kois in it they all died through lack of oxygen I guess, I used to try to net it but the ponds far too big would take forever, would barley straw help do you think . . .

    Bookmark   October 14, 2010 at 5:44PM
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serenae(6)

Are you able to take a picture? If it is stringy close up and looks almost like green wool, it could be blanket weed/string algae. However, that shouldn't be killing your koi, as it actually provides oxygen for them. Maybe they died from other causes? Do you have water movement or filtration of some sort set up? You could test the water and see if there is ammonia or nitrites which would harm the fish in sufficient concentrations. High levels of phosphate and nitrates would explain the large amount of algae.

I think people have had mixed results with barley hay. You can also use a chemical algaecide. Before you spend lots of money though for such a large pond, I would test your water in a few different spots and see what that tells you.

Sorry I can't be of more help!

    Bookmark   October 15, 2010 at 7:00AM
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newgen(9 Central California)
    Bookmark   October 15, 2010 at 4:58PM
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peterreb

I will try to take a photo ir 2 of it they are like tiny individual light green bits and they all join together and cover the pond ( more a lake really) when anything is thrown in they seperate then re cover the hole again in seconds like little stars almost . . . .It is not the blanket type a weed or stringy at all just these millions of little bits all joined together. ,

    Bookmark   October 18, 2010 at 5:14PM
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sharon_greenacre

Could also be duckweed.

from: http://www.nilesbio.com/prod172.html

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 1:15AM
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sharon_greenacre

I think barley straw is only reputed to reduce cloudiness from suspended microscopic algae ("pea soup" algae>. I use it on my full-sun lily pond and I do think it works for me. According to an article I saw on the Foster & Smith web site, the decaying straw releases a carbohydrate that causes algae (and other tiny particles) to clump together and sink. Little plants such as duck weed that float on the surface would not be inhibited by barley straw. Herbicides kill the plants but then the rotting plants return the nutrients to the water, which will in turn feed weeds or algae. I think mechanical removal would probably be a start. Other plants could be used to try to out-compete the floating plants for nutrients. If this is duckweed, ducks would love to eat it, and as was mentioned above, fish such as koi and goldfish relish it as well.

I can't keep duckweed in my lily pond because it is very effectively removed by my 2 skimmers (and possibly my goldfish). I know yours is more of a natural style pond, but perhaps you could install a pump and some sort of skimmer.

Good luck.

Sharon

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 1:53AM
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peterreb

Hello it is not like the photo of weed above, they are tiny star like things, there are ducks on the pond but they seem to ignore the weed and just swim through it then it separates and then close up straight away, there is no where on the pond that you can see any actual water it is just completely like a light green carpet covering the whole pond, the pond is too big to net it out at all, I will get photos and hopefully find how to put them on these pages. ( I know less about computers than I do ponds even) Pity the barley straw does not work though as that would be good if it cleared the pond . . . Reb . . .

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 4:22AM
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sharon_greenacre

Is adding an electric pump out of the question? I would think it would be possible to install a skimmer in the pond bank with a pump inside and run a pipe from the pump to return on the other side of the pond. Even a sump pump hose would work. This would give your pond water some movement, and as the water is drawn into the skimmer the weeds would be trapped in the basket. You'd have to clean it a lot at first, but ultimately you'd have an easy way of keeping the surface open.

Here is a link that might be useful: skimmers

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 4:32PM
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sharon_greenacre

Reb, I'm suspicious you never saw the azola photos in Newgen's link above, so I'll link them in here:

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 4:58PM
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sharon_greenacre

Oops. It's spelled "azolla".

And here's a the link to Newgen's azolla thread:

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/ponds/msg0913300725060.html

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 6:43PM
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peterreb

Hi not sure if it is the Azolla like your photo but I am trying to get a photo if it, would not be possible to use a pump as a long long way from electricity supply the ponds in a field, I will catch some and then see if I can put a photo of it on here . . . Reb . . .

    Bookmark   October 20, 2010 at 4:53PM
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jacob12345

Try using a product called Sonar in order to get rid of it. It gets rid of a large spectrum of weeds throughout the whole pond.

http://www.lakelawnandpond.com/customerDefault.aspx

    Bookmark   June 6, 2013 at 10:48AM
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mckool(7a)

Shalom, not sure what the weed is - but you can get the best barley extract at Walmart, or any pharmacy you'll find it under the trade name of hydrogen peroxide. Same chemical

    Bookmark   June 8, 2013 at 9:38PM
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