Using Chipper/Shredder (Troy-Bilt CS 4325)

vabeach_neilMarch 16, 2009

I recently bought a wood chipper/shredder from a neighbor to shred the many leaves I have on my property for use both as leaf mulch and to compost. The problem is, the force at which the shredded leaves come out at is too much. So I bought the bag attachment. The problem now is that the bag fills up too quickly and I am constantly having to empty the bag.

Has anyone come up with a better way to use this chipper/shredder without a bag? Anyone maybe devised a way to redirect the shredded leaves into a nice pile instead of having the leaves come straight down on the ground at such force that the debris goes 10-15 feet away after discharge?

I have included a link to the chipper/shredder I bought. I am happy with it but need a better way to handle the discharge of the shredded leaves. Thanks.

Here is a link that might be useful: Chipper/Shredder

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idaho_gardener

I was dreaming of using a chipper/shredder to fill my compost bin. I use 4 foot long wooden pallets and thought it would be handy to have the shredder dump directly into the bin. Sounds like there's too much force for that.

    Bookmark   March 16, 2009 at 8:42PM
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Lloyd

When I used to do a lot of shredding with mine I ran into the same problem, always having to shut down to empty the bag. I ended up parking the machine in the doorway of an old 8 X 14 wooden granary and discharging directly into it.

I wonder if a person could use a tarp and some poles to make a trap of some kind.

Lloyd

    Bookmark   March 16, 2009 at 8:55PM
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ron62(7)

I have a similiar built Troy-Bilt and this is what I do. I have a large leaf enclosure (8'x8'x5'high) made of heavy security wire. I took some plastic bird netting and wrapped it around three sides. I set up the shredder about 4' on the open side and shred away. I found that a tarp or shade cloth across the top helps. As the enclosure fills up I unbolt the downward blowing chute and blow the shredded material straight out. NOTE: This is dangerous, use this technique at your own risk. Other lawyer stuff applies.
When I shred horse poo I have a old metal tray 4'x8'x12" that I use. The discharge chute hangs over the inside edge and I cover the tray with a piece of shade cloth. The shade cloth allows the air and dust to escape and sure beats emptying the bag every 5 minutes.

    Bookmark   March 16, 2009 at 9:33PM
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glenam

I have exactly the same problem. Might be solved if you could find a humungeous burlap sack. Have even thought of getting some 3' x 50' landscape fabric, folding it in half lengthwise, and having my better half sew the edges together(which could be a problem either way you look at it). I imagine it would only work with leaves.
Currently, I pick up leaves with my bagger/mulcher.
Jus' some thots,
thanks,

    Bookmark   March 16, 2009 at 9:39PM
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vabeach_neil

I guess I could build a structure like ron62 using plastic chicken wire instead of bird wire. I am now familiar with working with the plastic chicken wire since I used it for my 3 bin compost bin. I could place a large tarp on top as I am shredding the leaves. I can imagine the area may become quite dusty as I am shredding the leaves.

    Bookmark   March 16, 2009 at 9:48PM
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jerseybob_gw

vabeach neil,

I have the Troybilt CS4210. I bought it new back in 04. I had to replace the impeller assembly twice already. The original ones had what I believe to be a design flaw. It self destructed both times. The new impeller assembly is designed differently and seems to be holding up so far.
Hopefully, your's is the newer design.
To keep the material from flying too far I just take my wheelbarrow and lay it down about 8 feet from the discharge chute, it helps somewhat. I have to rake everything into a pile after that. If you are working in a tight area, that might not help you.

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 12:04AM
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pennymca

Glenam,

Somewhere (and i can't find the link now) on this forum is a description and picture of someone who used an old bedsheet (twin? double? folded in half vertically) to do what you are describing with the burlap.

I believe there was a heavy duty zipper involved or you could use velcro on one side and also as a way to velcro the top opening to "exit" chute.

There was also a picture.

This person was using it with a leafhog vac/blower, I believe.

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 6:14AM
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glenam

Pennymca,
Now that is something I didn't think of, bedsheet, I was trying to think of something that could be used that would 'breathe'.
I double-shred all leaves by bagging them, dumping them and bagum again.
thanks for idea,
Glen

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 8:17AM
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Lloyd

Here's the thread.

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 8:42AM
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pennymca

pt03..THANKS! Bookmarked it!

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 9:35AM
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annpatt

Now I love my 15 year old, 8 hp WW Grinder for another reason. It drops its litter right on the ground in a neat mound. I pull it back and start a new mound or clean up the old mound. Nothing gets blown around. It rarely gets clogged---I'd say never, but sometimes I let other people feed it.

The other reason I love my WW grinder is that it's the reason I'm here. Back in the late 90s, I wanted to order new flails, so used Excite Search or something for "Chipper flails"---which brought me to Garden Web's Tool forum. I was there about three months, hanging out with tractor owners, before I knew that there were other forums. Thank gosh I did or I would never have learned the importance of changing the air in my chipper tires each fall.

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 10:07AM
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glenam

Penny, Lloyd,
I found the thread after I replied earlier. One pic is a Ryobi shredder/vac, just like I have (actually two), laid on it's side with sheet affixed to discharge,

now this has three advantages, 1) it has good force but not overwhelming as my regular chipper/shredder, and, 2) prudent feeding of chute will shred leaves finer than bagger mower or shredder and 3) put little bag on vac and get every last leaf easily.

Thanks for your help,
this is a great forum,
Glen

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 11:04AM
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joepyeweed(5b IL)

If I have a bunch of stuff to shred, I like to use a tarp. I stake the tarp down to the ground on two corners and the tie it up to two trees on the corners. About 3/4 of the tarp is laying on the ground. I shoot the chipper into the tarp... when I'm done, I drop the corners, pull the stakes and can drag the tarp around the yard... to move the mulch around.

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 12:37PM
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vabeach_neil

Joepyeweed - could you post a picture of how you setup the tarp?

    Bookmark   March 18, 2009 at 4:19PM
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ColesvilleEd(9 / Silicon Valley)

Might be solved if you could find a humungeous burlap sack.

Fouton cover. Works like a charm.

    Bookmark   March 19, 2009 at 12:13AM
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CuddyValley

Duvet covers. You can find them for under $20.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 2:39AM
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drmbear

I had a huge bag made once - the problem is that it was too heavy to move around - even to empty. What I do now is just lower the speed to less than half, remove the bag and dump it, put it back on, raise the speed, and resume shredding. Three shredder bags fill one heavy duty garbage bag I use to temporarily store the shredded leaves in. I also have 10' lengths of 2"X4"X5' fencing that I form into rings for my compost - I use some of these to fill completely with shredded leaves that I use as cover material through the year as I build my compost piles. Power down - Dump - Power up. Very quick.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 12:34PM
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toxcrusadr

I just got a chipper shredder and was thinking of a big burlap potato sack when shredding leaves. Mine didn't come with a bag. Thought I'd just use a bungee to attach it and see how that works.

I used to use a semicircle of chicken wire or hardware cloth (finer gauge than chicken wire) for shredding branches. It lets the air through but stops the chips.

Always good to feed branches in 'big end first' so you're holding the flexible twiggy end, which transmits less vibration into your hands.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 3:35PM
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