Questions about pegging and climbing roses.

boncrow66April 3, 2014

I have 2 seperate questions. The first is about pegging. I had never heard of this before I joined this forum. I watched Zimmermans video on YouTube so I now understand the process, my questions is this ....can you peg the "octopus arms" on DA roses?

My second question is about my climbing pinkie. I have 3 that I just planted to go up the poles on the end of my arbor and I also watched the video by Zimmerman on training a cl rose on a pillar. My question is since my pinkies are really just babies then that means that I need to wait a few years before the canes are ready to climb or can I start tying them around my pillars now as they grow? He really didn't touch on a new rose. Thanks for any advice!

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campv

Start tying and training them as they grow. Use something you can untie and retire. Strips of old knee-highs work good for this and you can make them fairly thin. They stretch and can be tied in a small bow. Once they get to about 3 feet or so you can use other kinds of more permanent ties.
Don't know about the other question.

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 8:05PM
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boncrow66

Thanks Campv! I am trying hard to get this right :). I am inspired by all the gorgeous pictures of everyone's roses and I hope mine will be just as gorgeous.

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 8:22PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

Yes, you can peg the Austins, or any other rose that sends out long, flexible, canes. Many of them want to grow as climbers anyway, and a number of people do peg them to try to keep them in line. You'll want to ask about the varieties, though, because some do stay small.

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 9:13PM
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boncrow66

I just planted 2 DA"s, Evelyn and Golden celebration, from what I understand both get fairly tall.

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 9:36PM
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boncrow66

Forgot to say thanks Diane!

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 9:37PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

What happens with climbers (at least here) is that the first canes are what I call "juvenile"--they are not nearly as long as the ones that a mature established plant produces. So you can start right away training, but those first canes are smallish and once you start getting mature-sized canes, you'll want to use those "adult" canes for your structure and get rid of the juveniles. I've found that true of every climber I've grown here.

Of course, that is how they grow here. Your climate may do things differently.

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 10:06PM
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boncrow66

Hoovb, thanks for the information. I am new to growing climbers so every word of advice helps.

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 10:24PM
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andreark

boncrow66,

I have Tradescant and Golden Celebration that I received as bare roots. a couple of months ago. After they had been potted and grown a bunch, I planted them in a sunny spot in my front yard by the drive and am starting to train them on a split rail fence that is in 2 pieces at 90 degrees to each other. They were only planted 3 weeks ago and are already doing well.

From what I've learned here on the forum, they should do well.

I am in the San Francisco Delta area. I don't know where your are and I also don't know what a 'pinkie' is.

Let us know how yours are doing and I will also post my young one's progress.

andreark

    Bookmark   April 3, 2014 at 11:58PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

"Climbing Pinkie" is a polyantha, and a very pretty one.

Here is a link that might be useful: Climbing Pinkie at Helpmefind.com

    Bookmark   April 4, 2014 at 10:35AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I've had my Golden Celebration peg for many years. It gives me much more bloom that way.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2014 at 10:53AM
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boncrow66

Ok so now that I know I can peg my Austin's my next question is this......after the octopus arms bloom do I dead head them and will the canes keep growing? I know these are dumb questions but I am new at this and not sure about what to do. And btw I am in SE Tx in zone 8. Diane that picture of the pinkies in the link you posted is my goal, they are a beautiful plant and are are supposed to do well in my zone.

    Bookmark   April 4, 2014 at 12:28PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

do I dead head them and will the canes keep growing?

Yes, because deadheading tends to improve rebloom.

The canes keep growing, but after bloom at the tip of the cane, they branch or grow laterals (smaller side branches) from the main cane, rather than just getting longer and longer. The laterals growing off the main cane can be very long, or stay relatively short---it depends on the cultivar, and the culture (rich conditions or not).

    Bookmark   April 5, 2014 at 3:04AM
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iris_gal(z9 CA)

Failed to find the informative post I read about this very subject. Here's what I learned. Some Austins will respond to pegging, some not. The pegged cane eventually dies back to the point where its horiz. began to head downwards.

Tying a cane horizontally does not result in die back. Gertrude Jekyll, Othello and Golden Celebration were the most mentioned as being sucessful. Also ramblers.

I had an octopus cane on 'Evelyn'. Pegged it and no laterals developed in a year. It didn't have die back either. Eventually pruned it.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2014 at 4:26AM
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boncrow66

Thanks everyone! I will peg GC for sure and probably leave Evelyn to do her thing. As always I appreciate everyone's advice.

    Bookmark   April 5, 2014 at 11:25AM
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