Question do silver maple and sugar maples cross?

l_james(mo5)January 9, 2014

I was wondering if anyone would know if silver maples and surgar maples cross pollinate. I trans planted what I was sure was sugar maple seedlings into three gallon pots. Then a few years later went to set them out and realized that they wern't sugar maples but looked more like silver maples but not exactly like what would have been the parent trees. I do have some younger sugar maples growing very close to some silver maples. At first I thought that the sugar maples must have died and silver maple seeds had blown in but there was only one tree per pot.
Any ideas?

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saccharum(z9 FL)

To my knowledge, the short answer is no. Red and silver may hybridize, but not sugar maple with the other two.

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 8:33AM
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wisconsitom

Ditto............it is unheard of. The red/silver cross saccharum alludes to is the well-known hybrid Acer freemanii, of which "Autumn Blaze" is a well-known cultivar.

Sugar and silver are too dissimilar to yield an interspecific cross.

+oM

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 8:49AM
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huggorm

Two different sections of the acer genus. I don't know if species from different sections can cross but it is at least much less likely.

How about blooming time, does it occur simultaneously for these two species?

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 11:51AM
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smivies

"How about blooming time, does it occur simultaneously for these two species?"

No....Silver & Red Maple bloom a few weeks before leaf emergence. Sugar Maple blooms as leaves emerge.

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 2:18PM
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hairmetal4ever(Z7 MD)

Around here, reds and silvers bloom anywhere from late Feb through mid March, and Sugars usually not until about early to mid-April.

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 4:13PM
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arktrees(6b NW Arkansas)

You know there are techniques available where a cell from Sugar Maple could be fused with a cell of Silver Maple. Assuming these cells would be viable, it would be interesting to see what would result. Potentially you could end up with a very fast growing tree that is also very tough. Have 4 or more complete sets of chromosomes often result in very vigorous plants. Many of our crop plants have 8 or even more sets of chromosomes. Then there is the potential of hybrid vigor. The issue would be getting someone to pay for the lab work, then tissue culture work with no certainties. And for those of you who get uncomfortable with the ideal of combining species, it happens every day. The freemanii Maple is a excellent example. Venus Dogwood is another, along with the Stellar series. Then there are all the crop plants......

Arktrees

    Bookmark   January 10, 2014 at 4:59PM
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poaky1

My neighbor has a large maple with thick leaves that look like the sugar maple. It releases it's samarras in late summer/fall. It is not a small maple, it is as big as any red/sugar maple, if not for the seed drop time near fall, I would think it was a sugar maple, it has great yellow fall color, so it isn't red maple and I know 100% sure it's no crappy sugar maple. I've wondered this for the past 4-5 years, but just now am asking.

    Bookmark   January 19, 2014 at 8:45PM
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