New Craftsman MTS 5500 yard tractor

larso1(So. CO Zone 5)April 14, 2007

Just saw this model at Sears today. "MTS" stands for "Monster Tractor Series." LOL! I know it sounds pretty hokey, but this model does appear to have all the right options on it. Red in color, 26-HP twin Briggs (LOL again! That's twice the HP of my current tractor), foot controlled hydrostat (don't know which model), larger rear wheels, and the heavy gauge 48-in. deck. Doesn't look too bad for the $2,080.00 price.

Bill

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glero

It's a Husqvarna. You're right, the name does sound sound a bit hokey. But it's rather inexpensive compared to others brands of equal size and capabilities in the residential line of lawn tractors. I'm not sure about it's longevity since it a residential, not commercial. But if I had to choose something in that price range I would believe I would be getting my moneys worth compared to some other brands. The Sears retail chain is Husqvarna's largest customer of consumer products. The same tractor last year was a few dollars more. It was called the FS5500 (Fairway Series).
It may be a good residential (homeowner use) mower. I included a link that list it's specs.

Here is a link that might be useful: Monster Lawn Tractor specs

    Bookmark   April 14, 2007 at 10:39PM
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unclestu

I almost bought that exact model. glero is right, it replaces the Fairway series from last year, & is Sears current "top-of-the-line non-garden" model. Yup, the "Monster" name does seem kinda silly. After doing a little research, I found that the clearance-priced FS5500 had everything the "Monster" did, *except* 1. MTS has B&S 26 hp Extended Life Series(ELS) engine, FS has B&S 24 hp Intek engine. 2. Different hoods

The ELS engine has a different air filter setup than the Intek, but other than that they seem very similar. IMO the big thing is the cast iron cyl sleeve, & they both have that. For the big step up in a B&S engine, you have to go to the Vanguard- that really is a superior engine, not offered in either of these models.

Also note- some of the FS5500's use the HydroGear trans, while others(mine, for instance ;^)) have the TuffTorq trans. Look at the sticker under the seat to be sure. I believe all the new MTS will have the TuffTorq hydro trans- the ones I saw up close certainly did.

When I finally pulled the trigger almost 3 wks ago, the prices were: $2100 for the MTS, w/no 10% discount, or $1900 for the FS, plus a 10% discount(friends & family sale, now over). So I bought the FS5500 with TuffTorq trans. The Fairway is still available on clearance(when they're gone, they're gone) for $1900 w/48" deck.

Here is a link that might be useful: Craftsman Fairway FS5500

    Bookmark   April 15, 2007 at 12:00AM
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texoma_wrangler

Unclestu, Check under the seat to see which TuffTorque model tranny is in your 5500. There should be a lable indicating TuffTorque model K46..K57...or K62, which I doubt.
Check your rear wheel size also......should be 22" just like the MTS 5500. Curious to know which model tranny is being used for this 5500 tractor. Thanks, Texoma

    Bookmark   June 5, 2007 at 1:35AM
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ejnichol

The current MTS 5500 parts list shows it has a tuff torq K46.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2007 at 7:39AM
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texoma_wrangler

Thanks ejnichol for you response. That clears up the tranny question. Looks like to get the next upgrade K57/K58 TuffTorq....the Craftsman top of the line 6500 GT series is the model to look at.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2007 at 11:17AM
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deerslayer(Z5 NE IL KBG)

A reviewer from the above link indicates that the MTS 5500 does have a TT K46.

"I have a yard that has a fairly constant 10 percent slope. This tractor cannot make half its flat-ground speed going up hill. Plenty of horsepower, but excessive transaxle slippage in the Tuff Torq 46 hydrostatic axle.

After pulling a 42 inch lawn sweeper for roughly one hour the tractor would not back-up due to trans slippage - which I assume was due to the thinning of the 10W-30 engine oil used in the axle. After the tractor sits for an hour or so it goes again."

-Deerslayer

    Bookmark   June 5, 2007 at 11:56AM
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ctpuritan

texoma_wrangler : The sears 6500 series has a K66 tranny in it.

    Bookmark   June 5, 2007 at 9:00PM
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onguard

Not all of the 6500 series have the K66 some have the hydrogear 3000. You have to look under the seat for the sticker or check the parts listing online.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2007 at 2:07AM
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kubotabx2200(Zone 5b NH)

So in other the $2,000 Sears, Roebuck track has the same transmission as the $3,000 John Deere tractor. And the $2,500 Sears has a stronger transmission than the $3,500 Deere.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2007 at 7:52AM
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ejnichol

Also the frame rail on the JD has a bottom to it where as the Sears have an open bottom, except for the sears 28750.

Also the frame rails on the JD are about 3/4 - 1" wider than on Sears.

Also the frame is thicker on the Sears though.

I'd likely go with the sears just because you get a stouter tranmision, but other may disagree. A good JD dealer could sway me.

The motors are basically the same from what I could figure out.

I think I got too detailed in my analysis of which to buy.

    Bookmark   June 6, 2007 at 8:20AM
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wally2q(L40, Ontario)

"I have a yard that has a fairly constant 10 percent slope. This tractor cannot make half its flat-ground speed going up hill. Plenty of horsepower, but excessive transaxle slippage in the Tuff Torq 46 hydrostatic axle.

After pulling a 42 inch lawn sweeper for roughly one hour the tractor would not back-up due to trans slippage - which I assume was due to the thinning of the 10W-30 engine oil used in the axle. After the tractor sits for an hour or so it goes again."

Sounds like whomever has this tractor got a "bad" k46 tranny. I would have exchanged it under warranty.
10% grade is 5.7 degrees. The slope in my back yard is more like 20%, and I not only maintain speed riding up it.... with the plug-aerator engaged, with 200 lbs on it to boot, I get up the hill - slower but not dead slow. And I can aerate for 2 hours and there is no sign of slow-down. Pulling the sweeper for an hour is basically zero stress in relative terms.

Having said that, with sears using K46's, the have eliminated a big discriminator between these brands. Good for them (Sears that is).

    Bookmark   June 6, 2007 at 8:40AM
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texoma_wrangler

Onguard....I just checked the on-line Sears parts list of the DSG 6500 model# 28750 and the current installed Tuff Torq tranny is the K66. Maybe the Hydro Gear 3000 was installed on last years' model or there was an assembly line change over early in the 07 model year. Probably wanted to use all the Hydo gear 3000 before the switch over to the K66.

Here are the facts...

Capable Of Using Ground Engaging Attachments
Powerful 26 hp B/S ELS (Extended Life Series) V-Twin Engine
Exclusive 54" Precision Cut Plus Deck System W/ 4 Adj. Gauge Wheels
Spring Loaded Deck Lift System
K66 Hydrostatic / Automatic Transmission
Foot Pedal Drive For Added Convenience
Large 23" Rear Tires
Air Filter Type Dual
Cooling Fan Yes
Cooling System Type Fan-cooled
Cylinder Liner Cast iron
Cylinders No. 2
Electronic Ignition Yes
Lubrication System Full pressure
Overhead Valves Yes
Oil Filter Yes
Deck Thickness 10 ga.
Axle Material Cast iron
Frame Material 11 ga. formed steel
Frame Type Channel

Any questions? Not bad for $2579.99 plus 5% discount if you use your Sear's charge card ! Texoma

    Bookmark   June 7, 2007 at 1:58AM
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onguard

Just checked all the dgs6500 online.

28745 P820-040 peerless manual
28746 347-3000 hydrogear
28748 K66 tufftorq, the one I have
28749 P820-040 peerless manual
28750 K66 tufftorq

I did see the 28746 earlier this year on the floor at sears and it did have the hydrogear in it.

    Bookmark   June 7, 2007 at 5:11PM
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bobav4

Can anyone tell me the torque on the k46? I would like to know if I can pull my pontoon around my concrete (level)drive for easier vehicle hookup. I don't know if the tranny case can take the stress.

THANK YOU,
BOB.

    Bookmark   March 1, 2008 at 2:16AM
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tuco

The website (www.tufftorq.com) lists the rated torque at 171 ft. lbs. for 20" tires and 131 ft. lbs. for 18" tires.

    Bookmark   March 1, 2008 at 6:53AM
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