Your Ligularia

rouge21_gw(5)June 12, 2012

I am looking for a shade perennial that has some snap in terms of flower colour (and yellow is so 'snappy' in the shade).

I am thinking "Ligularia" but because of the space I have in mind I am searching out the more compact versions of this plant. I see there is "Little Rocket" and a possibly an even (slightly?) shorter offering than this called "Bottle Rocket".

Firstly for those of you with "Ligularias" what do you think of this plant overall?

How much shade can it take and still give those beautiful yellow spear like flowers? (I do know it prefers a moist location).

And have any of you had experience with these two specific varieties? Are they noticeably less tall than other traditional "Ligularia"?

Thank you for your experiences

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leslie197(z5 MI)

I have a dwarf ligularia that has daisy type flowers rather than the "Rocket" spires you mentioned. I bought it a few years ago from Hallson Gardens. It is called L. Osiris Fantaisie. It is a wonderful carefree plant, compact, upright, with dark green serrated leaves, purplish undersides, and yellow-gold flowers in late August. It is about two feet tall and not quite as wide.

Although the flowers are "snappy", mine is planted mostly for the foliage. It contrasts nicely with the small hostas, large number of minor spring bulbs, and the Dragon's Blood sedum foliage in the area. The purple undersides of the leaves also complements the wine-red flowers of the sedum.

My Ligularia Osiris Fantaisie is planted near the east side of my south facing back patio, but gets fairly deep shade, depending on season and time of day, from a dense Coralburst Crab Apple tree. The soil is moderately amended heavy clay and a bit on the dry side (being at the top of my hill and under a tree), but close enough to the patio that I can spray it when I water the patio pots. It has never wilted on me, or needed any kind of pruning or dividing. I don't even deadhead, since I would have to step on the small hostas to reach it.

P.S. If you are wondering how the sedum (a sun lover) manages with the low deep shade of the Crab Apple - it was planted many years earlier before the tree, and seems to get enough light from early mornings in summer and full sun in spring and fall to hang in there.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2012 at 12:25PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Thanks Leslie for the detailed reply. I was also looking at "Osiris Cafe Noir" (a 'relative' of Fantaisie?) but I will probably instead pick up a couple of the 'Bottle Rocket' as I think the yellow spear like flowers will be more interesting, give more 'pop' in the location I am considering.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2012 at 1:20PM
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wieslaw59

I have The Rocket and Zepter growing in a place shaded by a tree for the most of the day. The blooming is satisfactory.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2012 at 1:48PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

wieslaw for what duration approximately does your 'Rocket' Ligularia bloom for?

    Bookmark   June 12, 2012 at 2:20PM
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on_greenthumb

I just put in a 'Dragon's Breath' Ligularia and really really like it. It gets about 2 feet wide, 1 foot tall and has some really interesting foliage most of the year. Flowers seem to be getting ready now to start blooming. I like it way better than the other types which never seem to work for me

    Bookmark   June 12, 2012 at 2:55PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

on_greenthumb thanks for that suggestion of 'Dragon's Breath'. I think I have room for 3 or 4 'ligs' in different locations on our property. I may go for 4 different ones as an experiment.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2012 at 4:22PM
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wieslaw59

Rouge, I do not recall exactly how long Rocket bloomed, I will tell you after this season. I do not think they bloom especially long as they are visited by insects who pollinate them.

    Bookmark   June 13, 2012 at 7:18PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Thanks wieslaw for this information to come!

So how late into the season will your Lig. 'Rocket' start to bloom?

    Bookmark   June 14, 2012 at 5:41AM
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wieslaw59

Hi, The Rocket started blooming July 15th(1 flower open), and the last flower closed August 25th.

    Bookmark   August 30, 2012 at 4:35PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

wieslaw I really appreciate you coming back with this info...definitely above and beyond the call of duty.

    Bookmark   August 30, 2012 at 6:39PM
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