Leafgro versus Clay Cutter

decogrlMay 14, 2012

What is the difference? Which would you use and what for? is one better than another?

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Kimmsr(4a/5b-MI)

I find Leafgro Compost aand Clay Cutter Compost so they both are compost and there would be, as best I can determine, little difference between them wexcpet possibly price. Both can be used to amend soils so plants can grow stronger and healthier then in unamended soil.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2012 at 6:59AM
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mackel_in_dfw

Clay cutter contains ashes. Sh!t Kimmsr, you could have googled that. So, clay cutter will have a tremendous effect on the pH, where as leafgro is straight and unadulterated compost. You're gettin sloppy Comrade! Time to bust out the Wild Turkey and just accept it, you post erroneous stuff daily but you are my comrade, for sure.

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 15, 2012 at 9:30AM
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toxcrusadr

Mackel, it's fine if you want to post info or objectively correct someone else's info. But the personal attacks are not in the spirit I would like to see here. JMHO.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2012 at 12:08PM
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mackel_in_dfw

Nothing is more personal than one's integrity.

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 16, 2012 at 1:52AM
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mackel_in_dfw

And when a poster daily cruises a board, for years and years, and offers faulty information regularly, not just once or twice, he or she wastes other's peoples's money, time, and efforts, call a spade a spade....for if the o.p. has close to neutral pH soil, she'd not only waste her money on an ashey compost, she'd potentially waste her entire garden for this year. And countless others, who don't understand yet the difference. How sweet is that? People in general these days have a very twisted morality and insist on sensitivity horseshit over veracity, and we are all stupider for it. Mud in your eye, Poster.

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 16, 2012 at 8:43AM
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mackel_in_dfw

I'll get back to the subject. OP- the clay cutter is designed only for soils with a pH below six. It will damage your soil if that is not the case. Stratight and unadulterated vegetative comopost such as leafgro are always the go to product without a soil test.

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 16, 2012 at 10:09AM
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mackel_in_dfw

It's hard to be funny when people get offended so easily nowadays. Man we live in a wussy world. I wish I had been born earlier. One last comment, Cruisader, the organic movement is being hijacked by envirnomental leftists. You can always spot 'em out cuz they generalize about every organic topic and when pressed, they have no specifics other than "it'll save our planet, man"- none of 'em are actual scientists, and most of 'em are armed with just enough information and predisposed to just enough fanatical reasoning, to turn many off from the entire concept. That's sad, if I were not a hard core organic guy already, I'd probbly think they're all a bunch of kewks.

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 16, 2012 at 10:36AM
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tropical_thought(San Francisco)

Leafgro appears to be composted leaves, so it would be like buying a bag of leaf mold which they sell locally at Sloat Garden Center. There are at least two things called Clay Cutter. One is sold by Park Seeds. Park seeds has not listed the ingredients. There is another one that says it has ash it in. I would call up Park Seeds and demand to know the ingredients. It is pretty expensive for such a tiny bag, so it had better just marvelous stuff without any sewage sludge.

Here is a link that might be useful: Clay Cutter Pro with Ash

    Bookmark   May 16, 2012 at 4:08PM
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Kimmsr(4a/5b-MI)

Mackel, your infantile attempts at "humor" are more offensive then funny.
I did "google" Clay Cutter Soil Amendment and got some 8,999,000 hits so I did not ead each one and those I did read did not mention anything about the product containing ash.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 7:25AM
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mackel_in_dfw

You seem to be more concerned about your own tutu, Kimmsr, than other people's money, time, and efforts. What kind of lame excuse are you coming up with now- blaming google- your mother a hundred years ago should have taken you behind the woodshed and learnt you how to man up. May she rest in peace.

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 9:03AM
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tropical_thought(San Francisco)

The lesson here is never take any one person's word without doing some research before you add something to your garden that may distractedly change the ph. Maybe she wanted to get the Park Seed Brand which is the most common one. That one probably does not have any ash it in. But, I would not use without knowing the ingredients. Not all compost is the same. Different composts give different results.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 9:51AM
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toxcrusadr

Yikes, an angry gardener. You should see someone about that.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 11:15AM
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mackel_in_dfw

Hey Toxic

I am not angry, just pedantic, ironic, loving, and well versed in the sociology of the internet. I've never been booted from any forum and always have made a strong case for ideas. Integrity gets you places in life and in cyberspace. Only long time posters who abuse their trust get the short leash usually, along with the fanatic, the obtuse, and the charlatans with a commercial product. I have a very tough skin, and expect the same out of other men. Respect, begrudgingly or not, is something you gain from other men by acting like one. I believe in helping out ladies, but occasionally, men act like ladies and need a good tug on the leash. There is a very long history of Kimmmsr getting into it with the most respected posters on this site. I've read 'em all! ...lol... Gday, TC.

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 12:07PM
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toxcrusadr

Perhaps you don't realize how you sound.
A short list of highlights...

"sh!t"
"People have a twisted morality"
"sensitivity horseshit"
"wussy world"
"lame excuse"
"your mother should have taken you out behind the woodshed"

This is not the tone of the 'loving' person you claim to be.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 5:40PM
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mackel_in_dfw

Throw something in with your questions like comments regarding compost vs. clay-cutter, then we can chit-chat and remain on topic, Toxic. It is true, that I have lost my father, my brother, and now soon a good friend, in one year. But I have a family to feed, and a couple of daughters, and a wife that doesn't speak good english. So, I maybe grouchy. But I love soil, compost and mulch and have studied extensively the featured topic before I offer information to strangers...no?... You can juggle cain'cha TC? I thankyou in advance...need to go see an old friend... GDay.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 10:10PM
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tropical_thought(San Francisco)

That's funny that you changed his name to Toxic instead of Tox.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 11:09PM
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Lloyd

Tox is one of the VoRs around here. Personally, I pay attention to what he says.

Lloyd

    Bookmark   May 17, 2012 at 11:45PM
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toxcrusadr

I am sorry for your losses, mackel.

Lloyd, back at ya.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2012 at 1:10AM
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tropical_thought(San Francisco)

Since we did hear back from OP we don't know that she was planning to use the more obscure clay cutter pro with the wood ash. So, one can't say she was going to ruin her garden, when she was probably thinking of the common one from park seeds. But, it was useful to give her the heads up anyway just in case. If people would post what kind of soil they have, and the ph more or less, and what they want to grow or are growing we could make better suggestions.

    Bookmark   May 18, 2012 at 12:37PM
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mackel_in_dfw

That's not in the newcomer's vocabulary. It's not even in the epertoire of some people that should know better...I nailed Kimmsr again to the church door in another thread today...I had to do it, he contradicted me on the English Language, and he didn't do research on the product being discussed, then he finished it by dispensing the "manifesto", you know, the ones that usually have numbers before them?...I hope that guy's not a politician...though I have thought about the possibilities...

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 18, 2012 at 1:42PM
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mackel_in_dfw

I researched "VoR"-

(Very High Frequency) Omni-directional Radio-range.

Bunny ears up,

Mackel

    Bookmark   May 18, 2012 at 2:22PM
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Lloyd

That would be a VOR (all caps).

VoR is a Voice of Reason.

Lloyd

    Bookmark   May 18, 2012 at 5:06PM
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tropical_thought(San Francisco)

It seems like you guys enjoy fighting more then discussing soil.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2012 at 2:57PM
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decogrl

Dang! I wanted an answer not a cat fight...take it somewhere else. Thanks to those who ANSWERED my question.

    Bookmark   June 4, 2012 at 10:53PM
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