case 444 no spark

Chad1969(5)June 8, 2013

I have a case 444 with a 14 hp Kolar. The only time i can get a spark on start up is when you crank and release the key you get 1 spark. I have tried and replaced everything I can think of. Help would be greatly accepted and needed. Thanks

Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

It would help to know more details about this machine, like exactly which Kohler engine you have.
Also it would be good to know if this engine has a battery & coil type ignition system, or if it is a magneto ignition system.
The symptom you described so far sounds like a problem with the ignition feed circuit to the coil on some VERY OLD battery & coil systems that utilized a ballast resistor to help maintain good voltage to the coil despite heavy amp draw caused by the starter during CRANKING.
I have tried to think of everything you replaced but I'm not coming up with a thing.
Care to share that info? It may help us to learn what all you have eliminated thus far.

    Bookmark   June 8, 2013 at 8:05PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
gator_rider2(z8 Ga.)

Its a K321 Kohler auto coil resistor inside coil.
If you need key switch they are dealer only items they have light switch in key switch and safety wiring ground to switch housing no after market switch like that making dealer item.
You need to join coltcaseingersoll dot com to find dealer.They have all manuals for 444 case hope that helps.

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 5:45PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

" I have tried and replaced everything I can think of"

You might let us know what you thought of. Maybe you missed something obvious to us?

As mownie stated, know WHICH ignition system you have is important. Some of us "older citizens" have had a lot of experience with various battery/points ignition systems. All we have to do is remember it.
I think mownie & I are thinking the same thing, if it's a battery/points system.
I'm also thinking possible bad capacitor, IF it's that type.

    Bookmark   June 9, 2013 at 11:29PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

The pin number is 14111472 and the Kohler number is hard to make out but I think it is 1735808423. I have replaced the ignition switch, the points, the coil, the battery, and the starting selonid. I truly thank you for all the help.This is making me crazy.

    Bookmark   June 12, 2013 at 7:49PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

Have you replaced the condenser (capacitor)?

    Bookmark   June 13, 2013 at 12:13AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
gator_rider2(z8 Ga.)


Your 444 1987 model its 25th edition sticker on side dash tower.
The key switch and solenoid was they purchase from Ingersoll dealer if not want work on your tractor.
Did you join site I listed above so review wiring diagrams and parts book, service manual, operator manual all free info.
This be more like your engine ID numbers.

K321-60410 INGERSOLL EQUIPMENT (14 HP (10.4 kW) SPECS 6006-60443)

    Bookmark   June 13, 2013 at 1:33AM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

I just got a new ignition switch. the one that was in it was not made by case ingersoll. It was a one fits all. I also got an operator's manual. I will try to get it in tomarrow. Thanks for the help i will let you know the out come.

    Bookmark   June 16, 2013 at 7:10PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo

The switch seemed to be the problem. Starts and runs like a bull. Cuts grass like a champ. I should have gotten one sooner. Now i will be looking for a 448. Thanks everyone for the help.

    Bookmark   June 17, 2013 at 1:33PM
Thank you for reporting this comment. Undo
gator_rider2(z8 Ga.)

Good job Chad don't for get join that site they have classified section and there 448 on there all time good luck in search for 448 I got 1980 448 that 0ne has hood scoop and 1984 448 that year model had black frame.
You set timing on that Kohler flywheel has S mark with test light. It run better if time take all knock shaking out engine an a lot less noise from muffler.

    Bookmark   June 17, 2013 at 11:03PM
Sign Up to comment
More Discussions
Craftsman riding mower issues
I have a Craftsman rider model 917.275820. I have had...
Craftsman LT 1000
Craftsman rider LT 1000 917.271851 032502D005822 Engine:...
Yardman He4160 13AE414E643
Hi everybody my yardman he4160 was working properly...
Linde Braber
Briggs & Stratton OHV Intek Hard Starting
I am another of the seemingly many people fighting...
John Deere Or Cub Cadet?
I'm going to buy a new lawn tractor this Spring and...
Sponsored Products
Winston 36 in. Obscure Glass Top Round Bar Table - M9136RGU
$561.75 | Hayneedle
Peugeot Elis Sense Pepper Mill
$100.00 | FRONTGATE
Side Table in Black
$259.00 | LexMod
Homelegance Morelle 3 Piece Captain's Drawer Bedroom Set in White
Beyond Stores
Trinity White/ Black Finish Chest
Mia Opal Matte Satin Nickel Mini Pendant
$220.50 | Bellacor
Feiss Sophie 9 1/2" High Brushed Steel Wall Sconce
Lamps Plus
Tech Lighting | Mini Echo Pendant
$300.80 | YLighting
© 2015 Houzz Inc. Houzz® The new way to design your home™