yves piaget?? can't decide.

ilovemyroses(8 Dallas TX)May 7, 2012

I see so many rave reviews about this rose, then read some dicey reviews. It is full price and not that great looking at my nursery (several pots, none very many canes, from one to four at best coming out of graft union, not much foliage, etc, ((so many roses there look better)) )...but, I am still tempted by reviews. I am in the DFW area...can plant it anywhere, pretty much, but usual issues with mild pm.

Just don't want to splurge when I have so many, but, IS this rose as great as y'all say?? (that sounds like a dumb question!) :)

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ingrid_vc(Z10 SoCal)

My bush is nothing to write home about but when it's blooming you don't really notice because the blooms are so large and beautiful. The gophers also went to work on the roots so that didn't help at all. Mine is also not a great rebloomer and the blooms open very slowly since they're so large. As an alternate I would choose Belinda's Dream (I have two), a nice bushy plant with huge, fragrant pink blooms. It blooms a lot, is disease-resistant and takes the heat well. In my garden it's been a much more carefree rose than Yves Piaget.

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 8:46PM
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ilovemyroses(8 Dallas TX)

Ingrid, good advise. I know, so hard to pass a name I hear such good things about, but, I really don't know how to manage a high maintenance rose, so, I think I'll pass...for now! But those blooms sure are tempting. Belinda's Dream is a great rose, I have two, also, and give that rose as a gift to quasi-interested (in roses) fans! Hoping to tap in another into this passion! And, around Texas, they are so easy to find, as EK has touted this rose so highly! $6 at Lowe's this weekend, as a matter of fact!! Own root, to boot! Thanks for the input!

    Bookmark   May 7, 2012 at 9:25PM
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5rosedogs(DFW)

I love Yves. I had 2 huge bushes at my previous house and bought 3 this season for this one. The blooms are amazing. It was even the rose we used in my wedding. It bloomed all season for me.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 9:43AM
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jerome(z9 CA)

I live in a very different area from you, but Yves is a great plant in the garden here. A gardening friend I respect told me before I got it, "He needs lots of food and water"...I have given him both and wow....big bush, blooms a lot, many basal breaks. With the extra food (mild liquid feeds every two weeks or so) and generous water, it is bushy and foliage a plenty. I would not want to have many roses so demanding, but for Yves and about 2 other varieties, I'm willing to coddle them to have the flowers.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 9:48AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

From the roses class this January, the speaker noted that "All the ladies in Montecito have to have a Yves Piaget" Now I did not see his eyes rolling.....but pretty sure they have.

So of course, if the Montecito ladies have to have one...I needed one too. LOL I have made sure there is a an extra dripper on a couple of the roses and hope that Yves likes the location. There is one big bud that I am waiting to open.

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 11:19AM
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blendguy(Oxford, England)

I'm one of the ravers, and I'll rave about him one more time. In California Yves was one of my very best roses, lots of huge, intensly fragranced blooms. I wanted to try him here in England, but I couldn't find anywhere that sold him and had to order from France. I now have three bareroots. It's the first rose I've ever grown three of, and, if it grows as well here as it did in California, I'll be tempted to order some more, even in my small garden.

That said... I would certainly wait and get a good plant! It would be heartbreaking to have a weakling version of this rose. Perhaps add it to your wishlist for next year and get it from a place you trust.

cheers,
robert

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 12:53PM
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ilovemyroses(8 Dallas TX)

good advise all!! I guess I am tempted, but, assuming all are grafted, I will add it to a wishlist for a better looking plant (for full price) or maybe wait for a sale...got plenty in the yard to keep me busy...but, with such sentiment expressed for this rose, it is going to be hard to let it go. seems for a grafted plant (and I don't know much on this) it outta look better, anyone have own root?

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 4:40PM
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wanttogarden(USDA 9b, Sunset 15, N. Calif.)

I rooted a cutting from my neighbor's yard in 2009, bought a grafted one in 2011 and another one 2012.

Rooted one is still one cane wonder, pencil tick main cane and some branching and top growth.

2011 grafted one was planted too deep and graft was covered. All the canes died down but one. Top growth is about the same size of own root one. I planted them very close together, hoping for a fuller bush. There were total of 5 glorious blooms on them.

The one I bought this year, I was very careful not to cover the graft, all the canes it came with are still healthy, it has about 5 buds on it.

So I think my experiment with this rose shows it does not do very well on its root or it take a long time to mature. I am going to try Jerome's method of more water and fertilization on all three this year. I love this rose so much, I intend to try it until I get it right.

FJ

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 5:28PM
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ilovemyroses(8 Dallas TX)

so maybe the one i saw with four canes was a BEAUTY!! thanks, i am fine with grafts. may give it another look!

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 7:29PM
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5rosedogs(DFW)

Northaven Gardens has this rose as one of its' varieties if you are near Dallas

    Bookmark   May 8, 2012 at 10:27PM
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hosenemesis(SoCal Sunset 19 USDA 8b)

My mother's is huge, well-formed, and flowers well and endlessly. I'll get some photos.
Renee

    Bookmark   May 9, 2012 at 1:41PM
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ilovemyroses(8 Dallas TX)

ok fellow enablers...guess who came home with me! yes, YVES PIAGET (is it the name that sounds so good or the rose)...it is a Star Roses grafted plant, there were four at the nursery (thank you 5rosedogs) from one cane to three on the one I picked up. I dunno.

QUESTION.

How does one best encourage new sprouts from the union...a happy rose, no doubt, but, any advice?

Does this rose need a little gentler sun, or the full blaze of all day sun? (I know all roses need full day, but some just ain't meant to take our Texas sun all day).

Any advice on planting? I usually plant unions at the level they came from the pot, but read of some of y'all planting lower to encourage more/better rooting...no zone issues here at 8.

We shall see, and I WILL report in! (also noticed Rose de Reicht kinda smiling at me...) hmmm...

    Bookmark   May 10, 2012 at 5:08PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Yves bud opened, guessing yesterday while I was busy working. Just ran up today day and WOW, such a little plant and such a BIG flower. Wonderful scent and love the color.

If it stays small, I might have to get a couple of others

    Bookmark   May 10, 2012 at 7:07PM
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ilovemyroses(8 Dallas TX)

kippy, I'd love to see a pic of the whole bush if you can! you sure know the right words to say!!!

    Bookmark   May 10, 2012 at 9:44PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I will take some photos....Yesterday, on the continued quest to seek and destroy a mutant gopher we made a mess of yet another bed. I decided to not fix it all back nice until the traps had a few days (and I wish a few occupants)

    Bookmark   May 10, 2012 at 10:15PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Does anyone have both Yvez Piaget and Grand Dame?

(noticed HD had Grand Dame and she is supposed to be a bigger plant)

    Bookmark   May 11, 2012 at 2:20PM
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socabeth(z9CA)

Yves blooms are gorgeous, but they ball if you have much moisture there! It makes up for those moist days in the summer for me though and smells wonderful! I wish I could post a pic.....but they are not open yet! (or stuck shut...not sure yet :( )

    Bookmark   May 11, 2012 at 3:28PM
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