Zephirine Drouhin or Alchymist?

Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)June 16, 2014

Hi there. I am planning ahead for a project I'm hoping to do next spring/summer. I have always wanted an arbor around our front entrance of our house. We don't use our front door a whole lot, but I'm planning on getting a very wide arbor so there is plenty of room to walk through when we do.

I am looking at either Zephirine Drouhin or Alchymist. I'm looking for something vigorous that can tolerant some shade. The area gets some morning and afternoon sun. Is shaded during the hot part of the day.

I'm zone 5 but the hardier the better. It looks like Alchymist would be hardier for my zone. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions? Shade tolerant and vigorous are really my only two requirements. Bloom color and fragrance are not as important.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

If shade tolerant and vigorous are your two main criteria, look at some Explorer climbers. Quadra and John Cabot are two of the best. My Captain Samuel Holland is in a great deal of shade, and does fine.

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 11:41AM
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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

Hi there. Thanks so much for the suggestions. I have not seen quadra before. I will look into all 3 of these!

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 11:45AM
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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

Mad - do you think it's too late in the summer to plant Quadra. I just found a great deal on an arbor from craigslist and I'm thinking about doing it this summer now.

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 12:26PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

No, so long as it isn't a bareroot plant, but potted and growing, and you understand its watering needs over the summer.

Given the truly marginal roses that are described as 'hardy', it is easy to run out of words to describe Explorers. If you would do it with a lilac, or any other hardy shrub, you can do it with these roses.

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 12:41PM
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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

I have a lot of young roses, hydrangeas and clematis so I water regularly. That wouldn't be a problem. I was looking at high country roses, they have an own root quadra on there for a good price.

Thanks so much for the advice. I think I will go w/ quadra for my arbor. :o)

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 12:56PM
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