Blackspot Resistant David Austin Roses

SoFL Rose z10June 17, 2013

Hi Guys,
I'm looking for your cleanest most black spot resistant Austin roses. I already have queen of Sweden, Wollerton Old Hall, Mary, Huntington, Darcy Bushell, Alnwick and Jubilee Celebration. Any other good Austins that don't get blackspot? I'd be open to any OGR that have blooms similar to Austins too but I don't have a lot of room for big bushes. I grow them in containers so smaller ones are much better for me.

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Well, if you are in Florida you probably know they all get some black spot. James Galway has good resistance, but gets large. Munstead Wood and Windermere are pretty resistant too. Princess Alexandra of Kent and Heritage have fair resistance, but Heritage gets large too.

If you can find Souvenir de Malmaison, an OGR, on fortuniana rootstock, you will probably be very happy with it.

    Bookmark   June 17, 2013 at 11:49AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I can't speak for Florida, but here in Zone 6 Kansas, my most disease-resistant Austins are Mortimer Sackler, Pretty Jessica, and Lady of Shalott, plus a couple you already own.

A couple Austins that have a few BS problems but nothing really heavy are Molineux and Shakespeare 2000.

I have some newer Austins that --so far ---have little or no disease problems, but I haven't had some of them long enough to make definitive statements yet. However, I selected them because they were praised for disease-resistance on this forum and other places. They are Scepter'd Isle, The Pilgrim, Munstead Wood, and Wedgewood Rose.

And I agree that Souvenir de la Malmaison (or Mystic Beauty, from Roses Unlimited--basically the same rose) is a wonderful rose.


    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 3:15AM
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Get you're Souv de la Malmaison from Coolroses. If they're out check to see if any local nurseries carry any Nelson roses. I know they offer it.

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 10:01AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

'Teasing Georgia' hasn't been mentioned. It does well in a no-spray garden here. 'The Generous Gardener' did well for several years before being removed for RRD. 'Tess of the d'Urbervilles' is definitely above average.

But there aren't any that "don't get blackspot." You are hoping to find some that, in your climate and with your strains of blackspot, don't defoliate and look horrid for most of the season.

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 10:09AM
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SoFL Rose z10

Wow Ken.
It just so happens that I am driving up to Cool Roses this weekend for their "open house" event. We don't have any good rose nurseries around here so I'll have to drive to west palm, but its not too far and i think it will be worth it. I'm worried that I'll go crazy buying roses but hey, its my birthday AND i get paid on Friday AND my hubby said he'd get me as many roses as i wanted for my birthday so I will be like a kid in candy store! Any other good recommendations while I'm there? I know they grow roses that have been proven to do well down here so I think I'll have LOTS to choose from. Uh oh, I may have to dig up my front yard to make room for more roses!!!
(Can you tell I'm excited!!?)

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 10:46AM
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SoFL Rose z10

Thanks for the recommendations. Yes I am pretty much looking for roses that don't completely defoliate and turn into a thorn patch. I have had good luck with my DA's (except for Jubilee celebration, shes not doing so well, but I have hope she'll improve in the fall). I have had exceptional luck with Huntington Rose (aka Alan Titchmarsh rose). She has gotten some BS at the bottom but she seems to just shrug it off and keep on blooming. And i mean A LOT! more than any other rose i have ever known. Its so remarkable in fact that I'm looking for others that will perform as she does. She's a stand out and I'd try every DA rose until I find another one like her LOL.
She lives in a 25 gallon pot on my patio (like most of my other roses). She is also grafted onto dr huey. See pic.
I absolutely ADORE her. As much as a human can love a plant i think. (i even sing to her LOL)

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 10:54AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

What do you sing? :)

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 11:26AM
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SoFL Rose z10

I sing, "Inch by Inch, row by row, gonna make this garden grow". A song about gardening I learned in elementary school. I also sing a song from Disney's Alice in wonderland about the flowers. And any other song that comes to mind while gardening. :)

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 11:41AM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

That's fun that this song gets taught in elementary schools! I'm into folk music so I know it as the "Garden song", and it's appropriate for all of us here! It was written by David Mallett, and the lyrics are atâ in case you forgot some of the words since 3rd grade.

I'll bet the Huntington rose loves to hear you sing!


    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 3:34PM
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SoFL Rose z10

Oh my goodness Cynthia! That's it!!! I can't believe you actually know it. I had forgotten lots of the words so I made up some of my own but now I can sing the entire song. Thanks so much :)

    Bookmark   June 18, 2013 at 8:19PM
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reemcook(8a PNW)

Thank you, dsd2682, for this post. I would appreciate knowing which DA roses or roses that bloom like DA would fare in the PNW 8a climate zone. Yes, I hail from the land of rain and intermittent sunshine.

PS: I hate it because it aggravates my fibromyalgia and other health issues. But on the other hand, the greenery here is lush. Glass half-full? :)

    Bookmark   June 21, 2013 at 10:43PM
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

I agree about the Molineux rose being pretty resistant to BS.Its a really good performer in my garden.

    Bookmark   June 24, 2013 at 7:34PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

I can't speak to which DA's might be resistant in your zone and climate, but for what it's worth, the following have had decent BS resistance in my garden in Ontario, Canada and my Mom's garden in PEI, Canada. Some of these might be afflicted a little by BS in a non-spray and organic gardening environment here, but typically not very severe.

Gentle Hermione
Crocus Rose
The Mayflower
Teasing Georgia
Munstead Wood
Wild Edric
Mrs. Doreen Pike
The Ingenious Mr. Fairchild
Constance Spry
Geoff Hamilton
Harlow Carr
Queen of Sweden

These ones will get some BS or late season mildew here, but typically not very severe.
Miss Alice
Lilian Austin
Mary Rose

    Bookmark   June 24, 2013 at 9:42PM
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