Topping/pruning leyland cypress

nw_gardener(8 (WA/Kirkland))June 20, 2010

Hi,

The builder of my house put in a row of Leyland Cypress trees about 5' from a fence, with about 5 feet between each tree (as a privacy hedge) - bad choice, of course. The trees are growing fast (as you would expect) and I wanted to see if I could maintain then as a hedge around 12' or so in height. This obviously requires topping them.

If I did this, would the tops ever grow back? The trees are around 13' or so now and I will be cutting back into old wood. Also, if I cut too deep, can I fashion one of the branches near the top into a leader and have it grow into another top, or is the tree marred for life?

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bboy(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

Very tolerant of pruning, within limits. Makes an excellent sheared hedge or even topiary. But do you want to maintain a 12' hedge?

Another thing is that this fast grower is pretty much always rootbound, growers apparently seldom keeping it potted on in a timely manner (a pandemic problem not limited to this particular plant, but all the more likely with subjects such as this that grow like weeds). A sheared hedge is less likely to have specimens with knotted roots go over under wet snow, but might still be subject to girdling in time.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2010 at 1:39AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

once topped.. you will need to continuously go back and re-top ... and what bboy wants to know .. is how the heck you are going to do that at 12 feet ... unless perhaps you are part monkey ...

i would not see myself on an 8 foot ladder.. on the top rung ... leaning over a large conifer.. with sharp implements.. once or twice per year ... for very long anyway.. i would probably come to regret the initial decision and cut them all down ... once i got out of the hospital ....

keep in mind.. what is feasible at 30 years old.. is going to be a pain in the but at 40.. nearly impossible at 50 ... and downright ridiculous at 60 ... so think out the long term ramifications thoroughly ...

they will releader on their own .... and that will be a problem also ...

ken

    Bookmark   June 20, 2010 at 8:53AM
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nw_gardener(8 (WA/Kirkland))

bboy, ken:
The plan was indeed to have a ladder (perhaps longer than 8') and go at it twice a year :) I was hoping that once they lost their leader they would stop getting taller and only get denser (and fill out, so to speak).

The expense of replacing close to 20 trees is an issue - although it sounds like the cost and effort of maintenance of a hedge would be more in the long run?

How does the Leyland Cypress sprout new leaders? Do new branches sprout from below the pruning cut and grow upwards? If the cut happens just above a lateral branch, would the branch turn upwards and emerge as a new leader with time?

    Bookmark   June 20, 2010 at 11:02AM
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bushhog936(E. TX -Zone 8B)

New leaders will have to be trained to become dominant. There will likely be many competing 'leaders' following any top cut.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2010 at 7:56PM
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pineresin

"and go at it twice a year :)"

If you want it to look neat and avoid brown patches and/or steadily increasing size, it needs trimming 5 or 6 times a year.

Resin

    Bookmark   June 21, 2010 at 9:06AM
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dsieber(z5 (Lakewood CO))

Trimming a 12ft with a ladder would def. be a longterm pain. I would rent/buy one of those mini cherry pickers

    Bookmark   June 21, 2010 at 11:09AM
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nw_gardener(8 (WA/Kirkland))

Thank you for your advice. 5 to 6 times a year sounds like a lot, so I may have to rethink this plan. I'll probably try it for a year or two to see how far I get.

dsieber: That is an interesting idea, thanks!

    Bookmark   June 21, 2010 at 2:42PM
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dan_staley(5b/SS 2b AHS 6-7)

You'll get on the ladder maybe 3x and that'll be it if your wife has any sense.

You'll want shears on a pole, if you think you really are serious about it. Echo makes power pole shears and mini pole chain saws, such as those in AM Leonard's catalogue.

Not cheap, but way cheaper than falling and bonking your head on the fence or breaking your arm and the wife mad at you for two months, or falling and landing on the saw and your wife mad at you for five months, or falling and...

Dan

    Bookmark   June 21, 2010 at 2:51PM
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dsieber(z5 (Lakewood CO))

I tried to find a link for the mini cherrypicker I saw but check out GENIE SCISSOR LIFTS may be even better for a confined space between hedge an fence.

    Bookmark   June 22, 2010 at 9:56AM
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musicalperson

Why 12'?
Why not 8'?

    Bookmark   June 25, 2010 at 7:09PM
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kathyadav5_gmail_com

We have planted Leyland Cypress trees about 6 feet apart on
the boarder of our land. My husband cut the main top branch
of some so that newer ones would catch up in height. Has
he now ruined the chance of these trees growing any taller?

    Bookmark   May 25, 2011 at 4:31PM
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pineresin

"Has he now ruined the chance of these trees growing any taller?"

No, but he has pretty much ruined the chance of them ever having a good shape; they will produce multiple new replacement leaders at the top, leading to forked trunks liable to split in snow or gales, if they are allowed to grow much larger. They will now either need to be kept permanently trimmed at around that height, or pruned very carefully to ensure they only develop a single new leader.

Resin

    Bookmark   May 25, 2011 at 4:59PM
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nw_gardener(8 (WA/Kirkland))

I am the OP. We topped our trees at the 11' mark and like pineresin said, multiple subordinate branches will compete to become the new leader, leading to a hydra look.

If the cut was made so that there was a topmost branch very close to the cut, it may take over and become a leader - I experimented with doing that for half the trees I topped, and it has worked well.

    Bookmark   May 27, 2011 at 8:50PM
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cdews

We had a beautiful row of cypress giving us nice privacy between our yard and the neighbors. The neighbor complained about how 'shaded' our trees made their yard so we lopped of the tops, we did not know they would not grow back. Biggest mistake ever. It is so much more work constantly trimming them to keep them in shape. It looks ugly too. A big, fat thick hedge when it should look lofty with nicely pointed tops. They are also deformed, with branches jutting out from the sides and overgrowth on the top. Horrible. I want to start all over, but we've had these for 10 years... We are going to try training a new leader before starting all over again. Our question is, how far down the trunk would you trim off any competing leaders?

    Bookmark   April 28, 2012 at 4:36PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

cd ... you ought to start your own post.. and check the box for replies to come to your email.. rather than the original guys ...

suck it up.. and get rid of your nightmare ... you know that is what you should do.. so just do it...

ken

    Bookmark   April 28, 2012 at 8:16PM
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AngieLS

we planted some Leyland cypress as a screen. the land next to ours had someone move in, with in a few feet of our fence. She ( the neighbor ) wanted some privacy as we did. We planted 15 feet from the fence. But she got a new boy friend who sprayed something on the trees, the limbs he sprayed died. They are three yrs old now he sprayed them a yr ago. my question is can I cut the trees down close to ground and them sprout back?

    Bookmark   March 27, 2013 at 1:30PM
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