Windshield fluid or antifreeze in Tires?

grassmaster(5b MO)September 9, 2007

Which is best for liquid weight in tires: windshield washer fluid or antifreeze (engine coolant)?

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johnsinva(VA)

I used Antifreeze for ballasting my tires (2 gallons per tire + water to fill) but WW fluid seems to be more popular in that it is more eco-friendly. Either works well, and the fluid used is only a concern if it becomes necessary to remove the fluid for any reason.

    Bookmark   September 10, 2007 at 9:04AM
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tom_k_de

Just make sure the inner tubes are in good shape,so what ever water/anti freeze mixture is used,does not attack the metal wheels/rims. FYI.

    Bookmark   September 10, 2007 at 6:41PM
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grassmaster(5b MO)

No innner tube-- tubeless tires!

    Bookmark   September 10, 2007 at 6:57PM
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don21

I think windshield washer fluid is preferred because rubber doesn't get along well with antifreeze many times - It would certainly shorten the life of your tires

"The difficulties with rubber is that it is vulnerable to abrasion and is prone to deteriorate when exposed to matters such as ultra violet light, water and chemicals like oil, petrol, salt and anti-freeze"

Don

    Bookmark   September 10, 2007 at 7:54PM
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tom_k_de

Guess my post was a "hint"...

    Bookmark   September 11, 2007 at 3:24AM
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baymee(LehighValleyPA)

What is the purpose for adding liquid to the tires? A poor man's wheel weight?

    Bookmark   September 11, 2007 at 5:45AM
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grassmaster(5b MO)

Engine coolant/antifreeze ought to get along fine with rubber and steel-- doesn't it have to get along with them just fine in the cooling system with rubber hoses, seals, etc.?

I'm not trying to argue here--I just want to try to understand if one fluid is better than the other. I know that I don't want to use calcium chloride in garden tractor tires.

What about RV antifreeze?

    Bookmark   September 11, 2007 at 7:32AM
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marineguy

You can put tubes in tubeless tires. I highly recommend you do it just so that there is no risk of the bead breaking loose while running at low pressures (imagine the mess that would make with filled tires).
I had to put a tube in my tubeless tire because I slashed the sidewall.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2007 at 8:09AM
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cherokee_140

They have been using antifreeze in tires for weight for a VERY long time. My uncle used antifreeze in the JD70 back in the 50's. I still have the tractor and it is still on the original rims.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2007 at 10:56AM
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mownie(7)

If you have any concerns of "toxicity" about using automotive antifreeze/coolant, you can purchase the "enviro-safe", Propylene glycol based type instead of the poisonous Ethylene glycol based type.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2007 at 12:19PM
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grassmaster(5b MO)

Still wonder if there are any other concerns or considerations and which is best one to use.

    Bookmark   September 12, 2007 at 5:18PM
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deerslayer(Z5 NE IL KBG)

Windshield wiper fluid is safe and cheap. I consider it a no brainer.

-Deerslayer

    Bookmark   September 12, 2007 at 5:54PM
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stripped_threads

I just bought a can of "seal and inflate" tire goop for the ATV in case I get a flat 30 miles from nowhere...again! I think it fills the tire with a solid substance. I wonder if that would work? You'd never get a flat again.
It meant to be used after you pop a flat, but might be good for your purpose, or mayby not...any ideas?

    Bookmark   September 13, 2007 at 7:46AM
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rustyj14(W/PA)

Wal, let me say this: Dribblin' that there anti friz in thru that tiny hole in the tire valve sure ain't my idear of how to spend my day off! My old woman was crabbin about how much time i was a-spendin, hunched over that tarr, and my old back hurt fer a week! Surely, somebody must of come out with a better way, ain't they?

    Bookmark   September 13, 2007 at 4:25PM
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deerslayer(Z5 NE IL KBG)

"Surely, somebody must of come out with a better way, ain't they?"

People who use windshield wiper fluid often fill tires by laying the tire on the ground, breaking the bead, then pouring the fluid between the tire and the rim.

-Deerslayer

    Bookmark   September 13, 2007 at 11:56PM
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chowdahed

This is probably a real dumb question(s) but have to ask. I've heard about putting antifreeze in the tires, with or without tubes, but how much freeze do you put in and do you inflate the rest with the reccomended air pressure? What is the actual process? Does it really help with traction in the winter? Do you still use wheel weights/chains if you need to?

    Bookmark   September 14, 2007 at 1:23AM
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messmaker

I used five gallons of windshield W. fluid in each back 23" tire. It worked fine, cost next to nothing and was easy to do(broke bead and poured it in. Took 10 Minutes).It made an unbelievable difference. The extra traction can get you in trouble so use care, especially at first.

    Bookmark   September 14, 2007 at 12:07PM
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deerslayer(Z5 NE IL KBG)

"but how much freeze do you put in and do you inflate the rest with the reccomended air pressure?"

The consensus seems to be no more than 75% fluid. Some air is needed. Without air the tires will ride like rocks because fluid doesn't compress.

Yes, inflate to your normal air pressure. Remember to check air pressure with the valve at the top. If it's at the bottom, fluid will enter your air gauge.

BTW, they make special air gauges for reading pressure at the bottom of fluid filled tires. If you have a full size farm tractor with tires several feet high, pressure should be checked at the bottom. This is because the weight of the fluid significantly changes the pressure. With LT and GT tires, tire height is not an issue.

-Deerslayer

    Bookmark   September 14, 2007 at 1:55PM
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montana3

How does one get the fluid into a tire w/ an innertube? Or where can I go to have someone else put the fluid into the tire?

    Bookmark   June 21, 2008 at 8:48AM
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butchs_hobby(s texas)

Down here freezing isn't a worry, I filled mine with plain water straight out of the faucet. I've got the adopter that hooks a garden hose to the valve stem. It makes a world of difference in traction and stability. If I worried about freezing though I'd use windshield washer fliud, it's cheap and available at any parts store. Mine are tubeless, had them fliud filled for over ten years. Got a nail in one back tire on my ole Massey(been there almost three years), guess I ought to fix that one of these days!

    Bookmark   June 21, 2008 at 9:20AM
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