Small white or cream shrub rose

mariouSeptember 21, 2009

Can anyone kindly recommend a white or yellow shrub rose that stays small- around 3'x3'? I read about Glamis Castle but there seem to be complaints that the flowers nod on weak stems. My favorite form is the cupped shape of David Austins, but I can be flexible ;-) Fragrance, is a plus, of course, but not mandatory ;-)

Any recommendations would be appreciated.


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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

A couple of oldish roses-- Kronprinzessin Viktoria, sport of Souvenir de la Malmaison, and the polyantha Katerina (Katharina) Zeimet, both white.

KpV has good sized, cuttable, very double, fragrant flowers, near continuous bloom. Prefers warm or hot summers. Will have some winter damage around 5 F.

KZ has small, semidouble, very fragrant, pure white flowers. Disease resistant and hardy; glossy dark green foliage. Needs deadheading for good repeat. 2h x 3w.

Both of these are relatively untroubled by thrips and Botrytis petal blight, compared to other white roses.

    Bookmark   September 21, 2009 at 10:19AM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

If you give us a general idea of where you live, that would give more help.

A newer rose is Bolero (Bolero 2000), which is has the form that you desire, and is fragrant. It is reported to be disease resistant here, but reports across the country have varied.

You might also look up the polyantha White Pet (also called "Little White Pet" in some places). The bloom is smaller (1 to 1.5 inches), but when it is in full flush, it looks almost like a little poodle (with less mess!). I grow it no spray, and it looks good for most of the year.

    Bookmark   September 21, 2009 at 12:05PM
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Not really a shrub, but a terrific floribunda. CREAM ABUNDANCE!

    Bookmark   September 22, 2009 at 1:48AM
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jim_w_ny(Zone 5a)

One of my currently favorite roses is Tantau's Rokoko. The color at first glance seems to be white but when switching to looking at a white rose it is definitely not white. A color that stands out, cream or buff. The form is also outstanding. A true semi-double with ruffled petals. Long lasting.

I don't know how big it will be as mine are new. Books say 4-5' and bushy.

It is quite a rarity in this country actually only available, at last count, from 3 Canadian nurseries.

    Bookmark   September 22, 2009 at 6:49AM
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Irene watts is another lovely rose you might like! very carefree too.

Here is a link that might be useful:

    Bookmark   September 22, 2009 at 8:11AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

'Little White Pet' has been wonderful. I don't know how cold-hardy it is. 'Bolero' is lovely as well, and very fragrant. That 'Cream Abundance' looks absolutely gorgeous, too. Sigh, so many good roses, so little room for them all...

    Bookmark   September 22, 2009 at 4:16PM
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Mary Magdalene, her fragrance is very much like Tamora, BUT to my nose, she's fragrant anytime of the day unlike Tamora.

    Bookmark   September 22, 2009 at 5:02PM
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. . . if Scardan's suggestion, "Irene Watts" (aka 'Pink Gruss an Aachen') isn't quite the color you're seeking, check out its sport parent, 'Gruss an Aachen' -- a lovely, creamy white with sometimes a faint tinge of pink.

    Bookmark   September 22, 2009 at 7:18PM
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Try the floribunda Saratoga.

    Bookmark   September 22, 2009 at 10:47PM
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cjrosaphile(z8 Pacific NW)

I can tell you a rose to avoid. This past season, I got Out of the Night which is related (sport?) of Out of Yesteryear. And it has been a mess. Balling in the heat, balling in the rain. Have never really even seen what its bloom look like unballed.

Pope John Paul II has not gotten very large for me. It does not have the Austin flat bloom, but it has a lot of petals as well. Austin doesn't seem to have a very good white that I have seen. My mother in law grew Glamis Castle and it did horribly. The bloom was more rounded and did not open flat. Am still looking for a wonderful smaller flat and fragrance white rose. I'll be paying attention to this thread. Good luck, CJ

    Bookmark   September 25, 2009 at 1:23AM
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A couple that are new to me that are absolutely WONDERFUL so far are the polyantha "Lullaby" and the floribunda "Louisa Stone". Lullaby is one of those roses that makes you happy every time you walk by it. I don't spray, and both have been perfectly clean. I've had the same experience as CJ with Out of the Night--it's gone now.


Louisa Stone:

    Bookmark   September 25, 2009 at 12:43PM
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greenhaven(SW MI z6)

I am TOTALLY with pauline: CREAM ABUNDANCE!!!

I can't believe I don't have a full-bush shot! Sorry. Mine is an amazing size for a second-year band from Heirloom.

    Bookmark   September 25, 2009 at 1:12PM
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Small plant, large cupped white blooms, exceedingly fragrant, and completely 100% disease resistant.
I stopped spraying last year and since then have decided that this is the perfect rose.

    Bookmark   September 27, 2009 at 10:25AM
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whaas_5a(5A SE WI)

Northern Accents Ole Rose...stays a very compact 3' X 3'.

Blooms in cluster flushes. Has a slight pink blush.

    Bookmark   September 27, 2009 at 9:37PM
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Pauline and Greenhaven, Cream Abundance is gorgeous as are your photos. I love the touch of peach at the center.
MAJAM, I'm glad to see someone else touting Mary Magdeline besides me. I love that rose and your's looks so pretty in that mixed bed.

    Bookmark   September 28, 2009 at 10:56AM
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would Bolero look good next to Gemini?

    Bookmark   February 6, 2010 at 6:17PM
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Well, white roses tend to look good next to about anything.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2010 at 7:23PM
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White Pet is tidy and blooms well for me. A taller bush that I love is French Lace, which is nearly white for me in the summer when it's warm. Grussie's a favorite- would never want a garden without that rose in it.

    Bookmark   February 6, 2010 at 8:51PM
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