Help with tree identification

tgtcat6September 10, 2013

So I've been trying to identify this tree for a few days now; it was growing in one of my flower beds and I originally thought it was going to be a black walnut, but that's obviously not the case.

Any help would be appreciated; I think I've determined it's not listed on any of the invasive species lists that I've found online, so that's a start. I have a hunch it's just a "weed tree" but I'd like to know what it is before removing it.

Thanks for any help.

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esh_ga

Where are you located (approximately)? Obviously you recognize that you are dealing with a compound leaf. Hickory is an option. If you pull off a leaf/leaflet, is there a strong odor?

    Bookmark   September 10, 2013 at 9:46AM
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tgtcat6

I'm in northwest ohio. What was interesting to me was that some of the "branches" have leaves directly across from each other while others are offset. There is zero smell if I pull a leaf; I even tore the leaf in half after that and crushed it. For what it's worth, the leaves are fuzzy.

Do you think the leaves are compound? I was thinking those were branches, giving me a simple-type leaf

This post was edited by tgtcat6 on Tue, Sep 10, 13 at 20:56

    Bookmark   September 10, 2013 at 8:18PM
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lucky_p

Not a hickory - butternut - J.cinerea; or, could be Japanese walnut, J.ailantifolia, its budsport the heartnut. J.ailantifolia var. cordiformis - or a hybrid of butternut with one of the J.ailantifolias.

DNA fingerprinting has revealed that a number of 'butternut' cultivars which are exhibiting resistance to butternut canker are actually hybrids.

    Bookmark   September 10, 2013 at 9:27PM
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Dzitmoidonc(6)

Lucky, do these hybrids make Butternut nuts. In other words, would somebody like me be able to tell the nuts apart? (The average farm boy-type.) The reason I ask is because i would plant the hybrid. If I can get the nut without the threat of the canker, the purist in me goes out the window.

    Bookmark   September 10, 2013 at 10:21PM
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esh_ga

Yes that is a compound leaf. Come fall, that whole thing will separate and fall off, proving to all that it was a leaf after all. :)

    Bookmark   September 10, 2013 at 10:56PM
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treebird101

I agree with Lucky butternut, heartnut, or hybrid of the two.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2013 at 2:34AM
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tgtcat6

Thanks for the responses. So this is something I should let continue to grow instead of removing?

    Bookmark   September 11, 2013 at 8:06AM
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esh_ga

Is there enough room around it to reach mature size? This gets to be a good sized tree.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2013 at 12:27PM
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tgtcat6

Yep, plenty of room. Wikipedia tells me it'll normally get 60-90 feet, which is no issue.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2013 at 1:14PM
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