Containers

ladyrose65December 12, 2010

I am a newbie and have been reading the post. Some of you got 300 or 400 containers!

Where in the world do you get all these containers. Is there a wholesale discount retailer?

We drink/cook with bottled water. That's where I've been collecting. Though, I got some good plastics 15 cent at Amazon Savings.

Let me in because I'm in need of containers for my future Ws.

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floodthelast(5 N. OH)

Get creative. I use the medium or large cups you get at any drive through or gas station, also the clearish milk jugs and the plastic bins my Indian take out comes in. I've used comforter bags before or covered any plastic container with a clear bag after adding some drainage holes.
Most of my containers have held up well and I'm on my third season of winter sowing so I haven't had to collect as many after the first year.

    Bookmark   December 12, 2010 at 11:37PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

The oddest I have collected is a parmesean cheese container. Tonight I made a meatloaf and used the last bit of ketchup, while I was headed to trash, I looked at the bottle again. Well lets say this I didn't toss it, lol.

Cottage cheese, yogurt, 2 liters, 1 liters, gatorade, deli baked chicken, water bottles, coffee cans (though they aren't cans anymore), store chicken salad, store potato salad, pimento and cheese, etc, etc, etc.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2010 at 12:16AM
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suecirish(6 SE MA)

The large plastic coffee containers (like 26 oz or so) work great. Some sugars come in them too. They have a molded grab handle - really easy to pick up. Hold plenty of potting mix, and easy to get seedlings out of later. Drill or punch drain holes in bottom. Cut out the center of the plastic snap on lid to make a ring. Use freezer weight clear plastic storage bags, cut in half, put over top, snap lid ring over it, put some holes in the plastic bag and that's it. They hold up very well, I'm on my third year with some of the same ones and now don't use anything else.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2010 at 7:18AM
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jodie74(6)

I am a first year WS too but I have collected over 500 containers. I asked all the moms at my preschool to save milk jugs but I also did buy some. At Sams for around $8 I bought 15 DEEP lasagna aluminum foil pans, I also have saved a ton of deep clamshell containers which I will insert into a gallon size ziploc bag. You can WS directly into ziploc bags. I always save the containers that lunch meat comes in. They too will go into a ziploc bag. (I bought 208 ziploc bags at Sams for around $10) I do have planting trays that have the clear lid. They are not deep but I am going to use them for things like coleous that grow real slow at first.

Moral of my story... I am trying just about anything & everything this year to see what I like the best!! :P

    Bookmark   December 13, 2010 at 8:55AM
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amybeth82

I am a lucky girl who received fresh jack in the pulpit seeds on Saturday from a generous secret santa swapper!

I have them in the fridge now, and I plan to wintersow them tonight when I get home from work. This will be my very first container! I am excited, but nervous.

We don't drink anything in that comes in a gallon in my house so I got some deli containers that look like what you'd get takeout soup in.. probably 8" tall and 4-5" wide. Seems like enough room for soil + grow space. Nice snap-on lids that of course I will vent. My question: Do I need to put these into other bags? Or can they go out as-is? I see a lot of people putting groups of things into larger bags, but then I see milk jugs that go uncovered. Why the difference?

    Bookmark   December 13, 2010 at 9:21AM
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hostarookie(6 WV)

I have a lady at work who saves milk/water jugs for me, my mother-in-law saves ALL types of jugs/containers for me, and I save jugs and coffee containers at home... it's nice to hear other ideas that will work.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2010 at 9:55AM
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docmom_gw Zone 5 MI(5)

Take a walk in your neighborhood some evening or early morning before the recycling is picked up. You can get more milk jugs than you'll know what to do with.

Martha

    Bookmark   December 13, 2010 at 10:18PM
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terrene(5b MA)

I collected most of my containers 3 years ago from the recycle bins in the neighborhood, and even neighboring towns. I also saved salad boxes and 1-2 ltr bottles from Seltzer water, and large cups from assorted sources. I focus on containers that are easy to re-use from year to year - I have no desire to collect, clean, and cut/punch holes in containers every year. I also refuse to spend $$ on containers when there is so much free trash that can be used to grow seedlings. That is one feature that distinguishes Trudi's method of winter-sowing from other methods of sowing seeds in the winter (direct sowing, cold-frames, greenhouses, flats, etc).

My favorite overall container is the 2 ltr bottle as they are deep enough for 4 inches of soil, easy to remove seedlings, and easy to clean/reuse. In the fall I rinse them out, dry, and store. Here's a pic of most of the 2 ltrs used in 2010, cleaned out in September and all ready to go!

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 9:38AM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

Amybeth, I think some use the plastic bags because they have no lid. If you have a lid that you can vent then you are good to go, no need of the bag.

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 11:19AM
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floodthelast(5 N. OH)

Amybeth those soup bins will be perfect, they are just like the takeout bins I use. They hold up really well to snow and almost never tip over. I took a pic of some of mine in the garage the other day. Maybe I can show you.

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 11:36AM
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floodthelast(5 N. OH)

Never mind I found pics of the same containers from my tutorial. Here they are.

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 11:39AM
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paulan70(5)

Easy peasy ask a neibhor or relative who has kids who goes thru 5+ gallons of milk a WEEK. I have a teenage/adult son who moved back home who loves milk so I buy at least 6-8 half gallons a week and I just keep collecting them. DH keeps telling asking me to stop collecting telling me I have enough for two ws seasons oh pooh what does he know. hehe.

I prefer the half galloon size milk jug to the full gallon. I have a smaller yard so I can try more varieties of plants this way. But I have recently gotten the milk in the full gallon size these we/I do not keep.

Also maybe see if you can reuse this years containers for next years sowing as well. That helps alot. Just rinse in the spring and store if you have the rom til January or whenever they are needed.

Paula

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 5:24PM
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amybeth82

countrycarolyn and floodthelast... thanks for answering my question and for the visual aide! I will do it just like that picture. :)

    Bookmark   December 14, 2010 at 8:19PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

I am a compulsive hand washer. Well tonight as I was refilling the soap dispenser, lol, I couldn't help to think the refill bottle would be another good one. Well that got me eye balling everything in the bathroom. Lol

Mouthwash, conditioner, shampoo, peanut butter ( that wasn't in the bathroom with me I thought bout it after my other post) lol

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 2:49AM
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cab321(5A)

Question about the milk jugs - do they have to be the clearish plastic, or can they be the white plastic ones?

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 11:15AM
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jodie74(6)

On another post I read, they said the "rule of thumb" is if you press your thumb on the back side of it & you can see your thumb than you can use it & it allows enough light in to germinate seeds. Make sense?

Jodie

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 12:25PM
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cab321(5A)

That sounds like an easy to follow rule. Thanks Jodie.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 12:47PM
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kmpsmom

You can also use gallon ziplock bags but that can be difficult. There are also those who will steal out in the dead of night and poke through their neighbor's trash cans, but I'm not saying WHO that might be. LOL

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 1:49PM
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ladyrose65

Thank You All. I'm am starting to re-look Containers'.
I enjoyed the pictures! Wow...! Recycling in the neighborhood! Sounds Good!

Expressing Thank You's and Happy Holidays to ALL:
floodthelast, countrycarolyn,
suecirish, jodie74, ambybeth82,
hostarookie, docmom, terrene, paulan70,
and kmpsmom.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 2:04PM
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jodie74(6)

countrycarolyn-Peanut butter in the bathroom...... LOL!! Glad you explained....... tehehehe

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 2:18PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

LOL!!

    Bookmark   December 15, 2010 at 2:28PM
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carmen_grower_2007(4/5)

Have used many kinds of plastic containers but the gallon milk jugs are my absolute favorites. I toss them each year and have no problems finding enough for the following winter.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2010 at 2:48PM
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pippi21(Z7 Silver Spring, Md.)

Do you have a Starbucks, Carribou or Seattle coffee store near you? If so, ask the Mgr. if they will save the gal. milk jugs for you and commit to picking them up a few times a week.

Ask your neighbor, family members or like Ann mentioned, go around after dark or early morning when the recycle bins go out and you'd be surprized at how many you collect. Always take along a large plastic trash bag with you, wear plastic gloves when you reach in for the jugs, liter soda bottles. If you are caught, tell them it's for your child or grandchild's science project! Or tell them about Wintersowing. Got a neighbor that has a large family of kids or even several? Their recycle bins would be good picking! Next time you are in the grocery store alone, observe how many things are packaged in clear containers. There's the deli dept. bakery dept. the bottle water, some candies, produce aisle, salad bar..there are numerous selections. Do you ever buy liquid beverages like ice tea, fruit juices in plastic containers? Today manufacturers are getting smart, it is probably cheaper to package in plastic as it avoids breakage of glass containers. The holiday season would be a great time to find lots of containers. People have parties probably will have a lot of liter bottles to discard of..even church recycle bins..we have a coffee hour where punch is served along with coffee and hot tea every Sunday..they go through at least 8-12 liter of ginger ale or fruit juice each Sunday. Now that we've opened your eyes a little..dress warm and happy hunting!

If you ask people to save milk jugs for you, ask if they will wash them out as there's nothing worst than a sour milk odor, but if you get some that haven't been washed out, just mix some bleach in the water and shake the bottle a few times or let it sit for a few minutes, dump the water and rinse it out again..When I empty a milk or ice tea container, I automatically rinse the container twice and then turn it upside down in my dish drain or even on a paper towel to drain before putting it away. You do know that you throw the caps to the milk jugs and liter bottles away when you wintersowing, as you won't need them. Any other questions, post and you'll get lots of helpful tips. Remember we were all Newbies at one time. Last year was my first time WS..

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 6:58AM
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pippi21(Z7 Silver Spring, Md.)

Liter bottles are great but they they are coming with a molded bottom that is hard to break through. I use a soldering iron tool to make my holes in my containers..quick and easy but the thick plastic bottoms of those liter bottles are a challenge..takes longer to break through that molded plastic.

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 7:22AM
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ladyrose65

Thanks Pppi21, I am avid Starbucks customer. I will talk to the manager. Great Idea!

I have done a couple of coke bottle with the thick bottom, I drilled small holes from inside to out. Then I put water in the bottom to see where it will not drain.

Kept drillin!

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 9:35AM
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mary_grether(7/8)

thanks for the information! I thought you had to use a special kind of container, and I have a bunch around the house thats empty. I have to rummage my trash! I just threw away a 2liter bottle!

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 11:38AM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

I would put several holes in the bottom. I wouldn't make them to big but big enough to where you can see through them. If you put dirt in your pot and a lot falls out then they are WAY to big. If you put dirt in your pot and a little dust and maybe just a little to where you really don't notice that is perfect.

Another container, dishwashing liquid!!

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 12:26PM
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gardenunusual(5b)

I am new to winter sowing. We drink alot of bottled water, so we get the 2.5 gallon jugs. Comes with a drain hole (I've been poking more holes). I just cut the top almost off, so it's easy to reattach and voila! A large winter sowing container...

    Bookmark   December 17, 2010 at 5:45PM
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pippi21(Z7 Silver Spring, Md.)

Okay, here's a challenge for the Newbies..we've given you lots of ideas for containers to use..want to hear what you find when you put your mind to being a scavenger..you'll surprize yourself. If your neighbors put their recycle bin out after dark, go snooping and see what you can find for WS..remember put those rubber gloves on..Of course in this frigid weather, you'll have warm winter gloves on anyhow. Put the plastic gloves over top of your winter gloves and then you won't get your winter gloves soiled. We'll be looking for a report from ya' Check the neighborhood..anybody having a party over the holidays? Because of the cost of New Year's Eve at some big hotel, a lot of people are entertaining friends/family at home. They'll be using a lot of liter containers, milk jugs, deli containers, etc. Go for it! Remember you don't have to do this all in one night or one recycle day..Ask your Starbucks or Carribou coffee store for their gal jugs..they use a lot of milk or cream.. Don't forget kids drink a lot of fruit punch or apple juice or o.j. then there's commerical eggnog for the adults. Big slurpee cups from 7-11. Margerine containers, yogurt containers 16 oz. or larger. Ever buy ice cream in the big plastic tubs with the handle on it? You can plant a lot of seeds in that!

    Bookmark   December 20, 2010 at 10:52PM
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terrene(5b MA)

Countrycarolyn, you might have difficulty getting the seedlings out of the container like the dishwashing liquid, if it has an irregular shape. Same problem with the new contoured Coke bottles. I like the 1 and 2 liter bottles that have straight sides all the way up and down, so the potting mix and seedlings slip out easily.

Gardenunusual, I have used the 2.5 gallon water jugs just like you described, and they worked very well.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2010 at 11:28PM
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ladyrose65

Were not exactly the friendly neighborhood here! RURAL and nobody speaks to one another. I am going to try Starbucks. But on my own I've been collecting 4 waterjugs on every 2 days.

Terrene, that's a good question. I've been wondering about Lodging the seedling from these containers. The jugs I have done before. Not coke bottles or cups. Is there a 'Rule-of-Thumb' for Lodging out.

    Bookmark   December 21, 2010 at 12:07AM
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ellenrr(7a)

My favorite is the lettuce containers because they have a cover. Mostly I use plastic water jugs, they work well for me, and as others have said, I have no problem getting them (I live in a city) by going out on recycling day.

    Bookmark   December 21, 2010 at 9:22AM
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daisydawnny(5)

I have the tall beverage cups I set in trays and then put in the zip up bags that comforters/sheets come in...they work great! I store my milk jugs in the shed and use them over and over.

    Bookmark   December 21, 2010 at 11:34AM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

Last year I didn't have to much problem for how I sowed my container in my weird shaped water bottles. Though one I did sow a little heavy and I did have to cut it down in order to get the seedlings out. So I guess I could say I lost 1 bottle but I gained the knowledge not to sow to many seeds in a container. Plus I find the seedlings grow better when they are not so crowded together.

The container I had to cut is in the bottom left hand corner. I made my cut right as the bottle starts to do the curve action.

    Bookmark   December 21, 2010 at 12:23PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

Ok neat freaks look away, LOL!! Here is my miss mash of containers as of today!!

As I was digging through everything I forgot another container I didn't mention. Icing container!!

Enjoy!!

    Bookmark   December 21, 2010 at 5:11PM
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ladyrose65

The 9fl oz water containers. Love IT! Lovin the pictures!

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 2:06AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

To those of you still collecting containers, Trudi has illustrated on Wintersown.org how to modify solid light blocking lids.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 10:40AM
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weebay

I second morz8 statement above. Some of the containers in the photo above need some light. With the yogurt and coffee jugs, cut out the center of the lid and replace with a piece of plastic.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 12:27PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

You know I keep hearing that about light and those containers.

Though ya do realize not ALL seed does need light to germinate??

Comparing all seed in one category is like comparing an apple and to an orange.

I have gotten germination with the methods that have been used above. Though I do plenty of research on my seed. I have been growing from seed for several decades.

Though I do appreciate the clarification for those that are new to growing from seed!!

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 1:13PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Another note, and only directed to those open to suggestions - anyone else can ignore: All SEEDLINGS need light whether the seeds do or not. We can't all check containers more than once a day to evaulate germination and the easiest most fool-proof way to do that is to follow Trudi's lead.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 1:23PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

Oh I agree that all seedlings need light morz. Though nothing is suppose to germinate till march. Right?? My lids will not be on then!!

Show us your containers morz, you know I have never seen one picture of your garden!! Show us by example will you pretty please!! :D

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 1:37PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Carolyn, I have nothing to prove to you. You are free to assume that I have no garden, have no camera, have neither, or no interest in taking photos. It's your choice.

My concern was in seeing a photo that may not be the best example and could be misleading to others new this year to the process. My post would have read the same no matter whose photo. I know you don't want my help and wasn't directing it to you.

My suggestion about modifying lids wasn't given to you personally. Let it go.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 3:06PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

I was just saying I bet with all of the advice you give I bet your gardens are magnificent. I would love to see pictures of them. Though you are free to take my comment any way you like. ;)

I bet your trade list is wonderful also. :D

Though I still say that experience and reading are two different things. There is always misleading advice in every corner you look. I think even you yourself have said that as long as you can see a thumb through your container it is ok. Yet when I show pictures of it, it is not.

Morz maybe you should be the one letting it go!! Seriously why you continue to always try and get a leg up on me and try to prove something wrong with a growing method that I do is beyond me. Should I go and correct every bit of misinformation that you have given through out this entire forum?? Cause believe it or not I have found plenty, and yet I have let it go!!

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 3:16PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Anyone's photo of a black coffee lid would have worried me - not just your photo of a black coffee lid and no one elses.

I'm sure that all the above sounds quite sweet to anyone who hasn't read your other threads concerning me, but thats beside the point.

This is all in your imagination, I've tried to convince you of that. I'm not interested in one upping you. I'm not interested in you at all.

If you had even read the post that made you so mad to begin with (I did, after being startled by a wave of anger I didn't know was there) - you would see I did not tell you to read the facts, to stop giving advice, or offer an opinion as to your experience in overall sowing or in anything else. I don't know why you took it that way, and since you chose anger over giving me the chance to clarify what you misunderstood, I no longer care.

What I suggested that day months ago out of concern for your results was that you not stray too far from the methods lined out in the FAQs (not go back and read them, I've never said that to anyone) your first attempt, then tweak the process as fits your needs later. Someone else further down in that thread singled out some statements you made that weren't accurate and corrected them, I don't see you holding a grudge (your words) there -

Since this must be boring to anyone else reading, would you please just assume when you see my posts that they are not directed to you personally because they are not. I don't know how to make that more clear. Being in competition with you or anyone else is not something that would even occur to me to want to do.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 4:22PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

Lol, I find it funny that you get defensive when I only state what I have done and what works for me. You have to turn it into the faq's when I clearly have stated time and time again reading and experience are 2 different things.

When a person experiences something and they go to a website and see that there is inaccurate information given that person knows that site is known to give bad information. Though someone that only reads and never experiences anything would have no idea what site is reliable and which is not.

Now you can get from that what ever you would like. Though I have made my judgment and my opinion.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it is probably a duck.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 4:39PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

I don't understand what you just wrote....it doesn't even make sense to me. At all. Did I reference something from a site to you that you didn't like, I'm completely confused.

This was what I found when you said I'd insulted you, in fact you indicated I had probably insulted hundreds. Cut and paste. "Carolyn, your enthusiasm is admirable! But, this will be your first year?.... unless you have seeds to play with, extras you don't count among your 'must have' plants...you might try what has worked most often before straying too far from the FAQs, you'll have a better idea what will work for you then."
And today, I wasn't defending myself, I don't need defending. I was explaining myself in the hopes you would quit taking everything I say on any forum as a direct arrow at you. My GW habits have not changed at all in many years and they won't.

And I give up. We will never agree.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 5:37PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

For the first question. It is not about a site whether I like it or not. It is simply about if it is reliable. Point being once again. If someone had experience in growing any kind of plant they could take their experience and discern which site is actually reliable and which is not. For a person that has no hands on experience they would not have that knowledge to discern that fact. To answer if you have time and time again used sites that give inaccurate information, the answer would simply be, YES. Have I seen you give inaccurate information?? Yes.

In regards to the copy and paste I am over that. That is you, that is simply it. If someone tries or suggest something different from what you read then you want to try and show that person how wrong you think they are. Well morz I am sorry but I still continue to say that experience is much more effective than reading.

Anyone that has gardened knows this!!

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 5:59PM
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gardenweed_z6a

ladyrose65 - if you are still monitoring the thread you started, I hope you will not be discouraged by the previous negative & argumentative comments posted. They are not the norm on this forum.

To answer your original question, I'm lucky to have a neighbor who thinks my winter sowing idea is a total HOOT so he brings me a truckload of milk jugs from the town landfill every Monday. He also brought me heirloom apple & pear tree seeds and asked if I would winter sow them for him as he had no luck himself last year. I use a professional growers mix and he's hoping that will do the trick.

Just for grins & giggles I asked the Starbucks kiosk where I work to save milk jugs for me and have brought home a trunk full since.

I got caught up in the excitement last year and winter sowed nearly 500 containers. I gave away perennials to neighbors, friends, family & coworkers who encouraged me. They were happy to get free, healthy perennials and have since reported that many bloomed first year from seed.

Feel empowered, not bedazzled. Winter sowing works.

    Bookmark   December 22, 2010 at 6:39PM
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pippi21(Z7 Silver Spring, Md.)

I think those who are in disagreement need to drop the subject immediately. If you want to disagree, take it off-line through private emails.

    Bookmark   December 23, 2010 at 4:54PM
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just1morehosta(5)

Yes, please.Peace on earth and good will to all.
cAROL

    Bookmark   December 23, 2010 at 7:06PM
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steve22802(7a VA)

The best source I've found so far for containers is the recycling bin of a nearby college cafeteria. They toss out a never ending supply of food grade containers. Lots of translucent heavy gauge HDPE. I've been getting 5 gallon square vegetable oil containers lately. They also have nice heavy duty gallon jugs, much stronger than standard milk jugs. I would think that most institutional cafeterias (i.e. schools, hospital cafeterias, nursing home cafeterias, etc.) would be similar. Any place that serves huge quantities of food will generate huge quantities of large containers. I expect that fast food restaurants would go through a lot of veg oil containers for their fryers, but they might buy it by the barrel... ;)

    Bookmark   December 23, 2010 at 9:39PM
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ladyrose65

Yes, stil perusing this post. I hope the newbies are too.

I go on WinterSowing.org as well. I believe that Trudi's site. Great stuff, it's what got me interested to begin with.

Now, I have to stop the seed buying! I think I've stopped. Looking for White Salivia or something like Russian Sage but white. I got too many blue's.

    Bookmark   December 23, 2010 at 11:23PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

Eww a person can never have to many blues!! As a matter of fact half of my garden is purple or blue, LOL. Very few are true blue, and only one that I have ever grown is a true blue perennial. Leadwort or I call it perennial plumbago or botanical is Ceratostigma plumbaginoides. I can't figure out how to save a seed off that little plant to save my life. This spring I will be looking for homes for it. I got 1 person that is interested already, so if anyone else wants some keep it in mind about may, cause that is when I am going to be splitting it again.

Here is a picture from a few years back. Yes it is that true blue color!!

    Bookmark   December 23, 2010 at 11:40PM
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gardenweed_z6a

ladyrose65 - give in and just buy the seeds. It's more likely you'll run out of containers before you run out of seeds. I've got an entire shoebox FILLED with commercial seed packs that didn't get WS last year even though my container count was close to 500. I just kept buying more seeds even though I had more WS containers than any human being could ever hope to plant out in a year. The time may or may not come when you don't feel compelled to buy yet another packet of seeds. I'm guessing not but it's one way to just cope with the addiction affliction. (;-p)

While seed packs in colorful, cleverly-designed envelopes are difficult to resist, I find more satisfaction harvesting seeds myself. I can't begin to describe how excited I was when I noticed my neighbor's St. John's wort & spirea shrubs had seedpods on them and those seedpods contained seeds I was able to harvest & trade. One symptom you've got it bad is looking at pretty flowers and wondering what their seedpods will eventually look like. Okay, I'll admit I've taken as many photos of seeds & pods as I have the flowers from whence they came!!! Everybody's got to have a hobby, right?

BTW -- this year's container count stands at 45 so far.

    Bookmark   December 24, 2010 at 12:40AM
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ladyrose65

I used to harvest seed, put them in the Deep Freeze and forget about them. I found some strawflower seeds from like 14 years ago. I don't like my plants to go to seed, I'm a pincher!

Seed buying can be an addiction, but I stopped buying shoes...! (I can't wear those really high heels!)

    Bookmark   December 25, 2010 at 2:23AM
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terrene(5b MA)

I've been wondering about Lodging the seedling from these containers. The jugs I have done before. Not coke bottles or cups. Is there a 'Rule-of-Thumb' for Lodging out.

Ladyrose, to address your concern above with a few ideas. In 2008, my first year doing this, I used some contoured 1 ltr bottles. Since I usually plant out late, sometimes all summer and fall, by then the roots have filled the container. The contours can make it difficult to get the seedlings out when seedlings have lots of roots. Using a container with straight sides, including milk jugs, 2 ltr, cup, etc., the seedlings can be worked out much more easily.

Many people transplant when the seedlings are quite small and carefully dig them out with a spoon or small trowel. In this case, container shape doesn't matter as much.

I don't use the HOS method that much, except for plants that like Alyssum or Cal. poppies, that grow very well in a bushy clump. In that case, a large wide flat container such as salad box or lasagne pan, can be used and you can cut the seedlings up like a pan of brownies.

    Bookmark   December 25, 2010 at 11:24AM
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gardenunusual(5b)

countrycarolyn- I loooooove blue flowers. Can't get enough. That's why I am trying meconopsis bentoficiala. I hope I don't kill it. Been trying to mix it up a bit. Did you start those from seed? Absolutely gorgeous.

    Bookmark   December 25, 2010 at 1:27PM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

I have to admit no I didn't start them from seed. It was actually one of the very few plants I paid full price for from retail. I have searched everywhere to get information on seed collection. Even all my experience on seed saving has still got me stumped on this little plant. Somewhere I read where it is suppose to contain 3 to 5 black seeds. Well I never have found anything like that. Some say that the little sticks are the seeds. Well I just tried a simple germination procedure to see if that was true and I didn't get any germination. So unless they need to be stratified or a warm cool warm period I believe what I collected was chaff.

I still have a ton of the heads on the plant as I seldom cut it back in the fall cause of the red color it turns when frost moves in. So if someone would like to try some of what should be seed let me know. I have a ton of it, but I can not guarantee it is seed.

That plant is pretty neat and it is drought tolerant, once I got it established I haven't watered it since. It is thicker now than in that picture. Though a momma bunny made a nest in it last spring. I thought it was precious watching momma and her babies dig in my flowers!!

    Bookmark   December 25, 2010 at 9:28PM
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gardenunusual(5b)

Some things are worth buying from a nursery. This year I scored on a clearance sale.

I would love to trade some when the time is right. That's neat that it provides fall interest as well.

    Bookmark   December 26, 2010 at 8:30AM
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countrycarolyn(6-7nwTN)

Well just keep it in mind about may, I will make a post somewhere. Another wser got a clump so maybe out of all of us we can figure out where the seed is. lol

    Bookmark   December 26, 2010 at 2:12PM
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gardenunusual(5b)

thanks :)

    Bookmark   December 26, 2010 at 6:26PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

Re: saving and reusing milk jugs. I have found that MN winters are very hard on my milk jugs. The third year they start to break apart. I was dismayed to see my sprout filled containers fall to the ground when the handle disintegrated as I was moving them.

The 2Ls have held up very well and I do save them though they are bulky. I put tops in one large box and bottoms in another large box. That way I don't have to pry them apart when I'm ready to plant.

    Bookmark   December 26, 2010 at 8:01PM
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tomva(7-central virginia)

Good point Terrene,I used some contour containers and the kind that had grooves on the sides,they were definetly much harder to get the clumps out.even lost a few seedlings cause of this . A few I had to cut up the side to get the clumps out..The smooth sided ones were much easier and I still have them to reuse this season...

    Bookmark   December 27, 2010 at 11:07AM
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firstmmo

terrene: I am new to this and noticed your pic above with the 2L bottles. If you cut the bottoms off the tops, do you plant in both sides? If you only sow in the bottoms, how do you attach back the tops?

I am definitely going to need to do some dumpster diving for some containers so this has been a VERY helpful thread.

Also, could you cut off the bottoms of the bottles, set them in the ground and sow seeds "in place" with the top hinged? I live in zone 8B so we have very little freeze and definitely NO snow.

    Bookmark   December 29, 2010 at 8:52PM
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jolj(7b/8a)

As you can see on this tread most anything can be recycled.
But some people buy annuals in 1 gallon pots(3quarts) nursery pots & put the pots on the street.
I pick them up, when I collect the leave & grass clipping for my compost pile.

    Bookmark   January 22, 2012 at 8:58PM
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