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My tomatillos don't seem to be making it to maturity. They are still dropping at a steady rate. The few that have matured are currupted by a worm. :( I have dusted with Bt with the hope that will help, but I haven't ID'd the worm yet so who knows.
Any other thoughts why the fruits aren't making it to maturity?
I have an insane number of plants.... planted a full seed packet thinking germination might be a problem. Obviously it wasn't. Could overcrowding be an issue? Lack of sunlight in the interior of the tomatillo jungle?

some are weeds, probably crab grass, and some are lettuce. for example, mapping the picture onto (0,1) in x and (0,1) in y, the group at (0.7,0.3) is mostly lettuce. the group at (0.2,0.8) is mostly crabgrass. you have crab grass in the spinach picture too, with very little spinach (not uncommon, spinach are slow germinators, specially in warm soil).

Agree with the others. Harvest the ones you've planted. You could replant yours but it would probably be a couple years or so before the bulbs sized back up. So unless the garlic you are growing are either hard to find or expensive to buy, it would be best to start with fresh stock planted in the fall. And as has been mentioned, hardneck garlic are usually hardier and will probably do better for you than softnecks.
Rodney



I needed one of those hand held bug zappers just to walk near my tree line... the deer flies were horrible this year. Bought another to carry with me in the garden; now that everything has grown, the mosquitoes are horrible. Had wasps in the play set, bumped their nest & zapped them as they came out. A couple of swipes wipes out anything flying in the vicinity. IMO, one of the better recent inventions for gardeners & those who spend a lot of time outdoors.
I guess the really weird question is how I put up with the bugs for so many years without one. Sure beats putting a butterfly net over my head. ;-)

The people to ask this question is the company that made the product you sprayed. There should be a phone number or website address on the container. Call/email them and tell them exactly how you used it. They will tell you if/when it's safe to eat the produce that was exposed to the spray.
Always read and follow the label directions on any pesticide you use, most especially near your vegetables.
Sandy


I had a bad phone call with Berry Hill last year and sulked and didn't order from them. This year I did. Their stuff is superior and prices are good. I think the tape can last 2-3 years if rodents don't chew on it. I had bad gopher problems before and had to toss all the t tape every year. Now I have killed the gophers and the tapes are looking good. I am not going to throw them out. Berry Hill's accessories are much better than Drip Work's too.

As far as the safety of galvanized stuff, you might google that question, in regards to galvanized metal stocktanks. I decided to go with the food grade poly tanks, because some of the literature said that zinc levels might get a bit high in the soil, from the zinc in the galvanization process.

I'm a little further south, but have tried Lamkin. I didn't do all that well with it. Some of my problem has been soil borne fungus that cause mature vine decline and wilt.
I gave up on Lamkin and for something a little different, I have Burpee Early Hybrid Crenshaw which can do so well. I had a 22 pounder a couple years ago and they are doing well this year.

I grew one this year near Youngstown, OH. I got several melon varieties going from seed early and transplanted them near Memorial Day. The Lambkin didn't take, so I planted another seed directly in the ground. I planted the melons in a mound surrounded by black weed paper. I only got one Lambkin melon and I picked it two days ago (Aug 20). I was very happy with the flavor, but I probably should have left it in for another few days. I will definitely plant more next year, (hopefully by transplant to give me an earlier start). I also was real happy with my blacktail mountain watermelons this year. I also planted yellow doll and new queen watermelons. I have picked one so far and it was very good, but I'm not sure which of the two it was. I also tried minnesota midget cantaloupes but the flavor was not very good. In summary, I was thrilled that a directly sown lambkin melon turned out so well for me despite less than ideal weather, I just wish I would have gotten a few more.
This post was edited by Ztom on Fri, Aug 22, 14 at 8:24


Reporting back on Tatuma squash. Wow what a find. They are still producing here in Georgia in late August. Yes they get mildew, some pickle worm, maybe minimal squash vine borer. But they are so productive and keep rooting down and 'starting over'. The fruits are tops in flavor, if they get too big I just scrape out the seeds and pith and they cook up just fine. Smaller ones have tender seeds and edible centers. I don't even refrigerate them after harvest except the really small ones, they sit on the counter for days. I hear they grill up well but I've only roasted or sauted them. Everyone I share them with are in love with Tatuma. My strategy next year is to start a hill at one end of a row and just send it up the row - it is viney - and if necessary take up the old part as it gets ratty. When the foliage is really lush the first half of the season it's actually hard to find the squash in there, another reason to have a long slim row of the things. I've left 2 to mature - they say they also make excellent winter squash, and I want to save some seed, will probably save a few more to be sure there's no cross pollination from any lingering pitiful zukes, etc.

TBH, I've never actually measured how fast individual fruits grow because I have too many plants to keep track of (around 300 this year). But usually, the miniature ones take ~10-15 days and the larger Sicilian heirlooms like Rosa Bianca take 3 or more weeks for me. I've never grown Black Beauty. I'm growing a white-fruited variety called White Star that seems to be the fastest one I've seen - about 10-15 days from pollination to fist-size fruit.

Try to pick them before they lose their shine or start to get a little rubbery feeling. If they feel very firm, they're good, but as soon as they start to go just a bit soft, they need to be picked right away. A month seems like too long, they're probably not going to reach full size for that variety.



I have only 1 neighbor with squash type plants. I don't destroy the surrounding barriers as I live in the country and need barriers against field spraying. Actually, if faithfully done, killing any adults in the fall works pretty good.
I've tried just about all these methods with the exception of planting later, and if I can make myself wait maybe that would help. Our daughter planted a big pumpkin patch in an area that didn't have anything planted before, and there are lots of squash bugs and too many plants to rely on picking the bugs off, unless that's your full-time job. We pick off eggs and squish the bugs or spray them with soap water which works great but only kills the bugs you hit with it. As the plants started dying off I got frustrated to the point of using chemicals a couple times, using a long sprayer arm to target just the vines those bugs love to eat while trying to avoid getting any on the flowers to avoid harming bees but I doubt that's completely possible.