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Tomato IssueSame old tune........ Prolly EB huh?
Posted by gltrap54 July 19, 2014
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planatus(6)

Yep, you can tell it's early blight because some of the newer lesions (center leaf) show a bull's-eye pattern. No big deal. Clip off the lower leaves to 12-18 inches and keep your fingers crossed that it stops raining during the evening hours.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 2:51PM
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gltrap54

Thanks planatus! Yeah, in spite of my best effort....... Spray fungicide from incubation...... Pffffft......... Cold have bought Heineken with the money.........

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 8:30PM
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Ohiofem(6a Ohio)

I also am on the border between 5a and 6b with lower than normal temperatures. I saw more stink bugs indoors during winter when we had record breaking cold of -15 to -20 than I have seen this summer. I've seen only a handful of Japanese beetles and only one tomato worm, no aphids and also almost no lady bugs. Last year there seemed to be hordes of them. The photo is of the only hummingbird (or sphinx) moth I've seen this summer when I normally have many of them along with a host of swallowtails. My plants seem to be getting enough visits from pollinators, but I haven't seen any bumble bees or honey bees this summer.

On the other hand, the cold, damp weather has been very inviting to disease. I had to trash a couple tomato plants and many petunias, which normally thrive here, due to fungus infections. And my tomatoes, peppers and eggplants are a couple weeks behind in producing. Okra is pitiful.

I have been on this earth for many decades, and I think weather patterns are changing in significant ways.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 6:27PM
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springtogarden(6)

By the way, Ohiofem, that is a gorgeous pic!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 6:51PM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

gardengal: It's true. Overhead watering is discouraged with many veggies because of fungal issues. But your spraying an anti-fungicide, so the practice isn't so frowned upon then. At least that's what I've reasoned.

As far as the quick spray every morning thing. Dunno how others do it. I mulch with keeps moisture in and reduces dust and occasionally give the mulch a good soaking. and yes, in the morn.

And you're doing the right thing in being proactive with prevention. Usually, it's identify, then treat. But with mildews and fungal issues, it's always best to treat before you see the symptoms.

Kevin

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 7:09PM
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springtogarden(6)

Thank you, Kevin! Mulch is just great all around :). I didn't even think about the dust aspect. That's helpful for hard rain storms too. I am happier with prevention this year than last year's discovery and treat, yikes. Newbie gardener to raised beds last year and had lots to learn lol and still learning. Thanks again and hope your garden is doing well!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 6:44PM
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pd0xgard_

I think I got that beat ;) This one is growing about 5 ft off the ground, hanging on/in our forsythia bush.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 5:27PM
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pd0xgard_

Far away shot....

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 5:28PM
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jonfrum(6)

I've cut them up and used them in a stir fry. Zucchini, onion/scallion and tomatillo make a nice combination. Add chopped tomato or tomato sauce for a nice mix. I either add soy sauce or herbs, depending on what I crave.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 1:51PM
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donna_in_sask

In the Food forum, someone makes enchiladas using salsa verde made with tomatillos...you might want to ask there or do a search in that forum.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 2:44PM
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chas045(7b)

I'm sorry: I can't remember the name. I can't remember how I was able to find it before. It is essentially a weed, but I believe that I found that some in Asia eat the stuff with the flower. Perhaps they even cook the leaves similar to Poke Weed, but perhaps my mind is playing tricks on me about that. With all that almost useless info, I just wanted to let you know that you can consider it to be a weed and yank it/them out.

edit--- OK, found it by searching on 'heart shaped leaf weed'. From Wikipedia: It is Velvetleaf and has been grown in China since around 2000 BCE for its strong, jute-like fibre. The leaves are edible, stir-fried or in omelette. The plant is known as maabulha in the Maldives and its leaves were part of the traditional Maldivian cuisine, usually finely chopped and mixed with Maldive fish and grated coconut in a dish known as mas huni.[4] The seeds are eaten in China and Kashmir.[5]

Wikipedia goes on to say it is invasive in the US and inhibits conventional crops.

This post was edited by chas045 on Fri, Jul 18, 14 at 20:51

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 8:18PM
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rich

Great info chas045! I was hoping it was a vegetable of some sort. Oh well, maybe I'll try the leaves.

Thanks!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 1:29PM
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glib(5.5)

I would try only vegetables that require less nitrogen. carrots, parsnips (too late), bush beans.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 9:42AM
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farmerdill

Should work fine for beans tomatoes etc. It would be a similar apprach to one of the latest fads. Hugelkultur.

Here is a link that might be useful: Hugelkultur

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 11:30AM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Blast with water from the hose. Repeat at intervals of a few days. Aphids are weak creatures and once they are knocked off they will have trouble getting back on the plants.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 10:41AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Probably a bird or possibly even another very large wasp (hornet). Considering how many of them get eaten (from within or without) I'm always amazed there are any left to reproduce!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 10:12AM
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lkzz(7b)

They will shrivel up and die...they are food for the eggs that were implanted inside them by the wasp, hatched and then came to the surface as pupa. By the time you see the pupa (the white rice-like things) the worm has been a host for a while.

It could have fallen off...sometimes they stay on the plant - brown and dried up.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 10:37AM
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springtogarden(6)

Is that what that is? My word I would have never guessed a horseradish plant! I've never grown one before and I was way off on what family it belonged to lol. I did find about 5 bugs. 2 on each side of my plot and one towards the end ( I have one big plot at a community garden). I have a lot of lady bugs and I have seen webs so I have spiders plus I have seen a beetle that eats bugs and two Daddy Long Leg spiders so maybe they will balance them out?! If not, I can hand pick them off into a soapy water. I just didn't want to kill them in case they were beneficial. Thanks so much for your help :)!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 10:20AM
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springtogarden(6)

rhizo_1, I will be back to the plot on Monday and will borrow someone's camera. Mine is the worst for small things. Zooming makes it blurry but far away looks like a brown dot so I will post some pics then. Thanks for looking :)!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 10:25AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

What causes it to happen is a stress of some sort for the plant. Those possible sources of stress are many but sufficient but not too much water, good environmental conditions, and plenty of available nutrients are the two most common causes.

And since sufficient water is easy to supply that leaves over-watering (which most do), poor environmental conditions (cooler and wetter than normal as it is for many this year), and lack of nutrient issues.

So what has your weather been like? How much sun exposure? What and how often have you fed them? What soil mix are you using in your containers? How big are the containers? How much and how often are you watering? Same as in previous location may not be needed and habits are hard to break.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 12:57PM
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atrox(7- N. Atlanta, GA)

The boxes are 4x10x1 ft. I used a mushroom compost mixed with coarse vermiculite and peat moss. I neglected fertilizer this year since the compost was new. It was very wet in May and these boxes are getting less direct sun than my previous gardens. So, I am guessing all of these factors could have been my problem?

All of my veggies seem to be doing a little less well at this new location than I've previously grow (lower yields and disease problems earlier than I've seen before). Unfortunately, this new house has limited areas with really good sun exposure (I planted a pepper and a tomato in the front of the house yesterday where there is great sun... waiting to see if the neighbors complain).

I am wondering if I try again with zucchini in the same location next year or save the space for other veggies?

Thanks!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 9:02AM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Potatoes can be a bit fragile as the season wears on. They might be done, but you should have potatoes after almost 3 months. They don't always flower. You might try removing the bad foliage and try some fungicide and a dose of fertilizer to extend their season a little.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 2:24AM
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Skie_M(Zone 7 (Southwestern Oklahoma)

I'm thinking, since you didn't do that "hill" thing ... it could be over-watering for that particular variety?

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 2:30AM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

Hudson, thank you!! You got my question that for some reason was never really grasped by anyone else, and gave me an answer! And with a photo to boot! I am noticing my tomatoes from bottom to top are now turning "white"... that colour change before they go red... however even the tiny tiny ones (pea size) are turning white, so I dunno what to expect. We'll see, but either way I'm excited!

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 1:41AM
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Deeby

Hudson, it's a start !

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 12:37AM
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chas045(7b)

Sorry that things didn't go as planned. I have always had room, but my sil came to our town in North Carolina and decided to mostly grow in containers. Much of her 'farm' did well. She grew a decent crop of tomatoes and the smaller hot peppers. She also did well with herbs. She probably had more sun exposure.

Since you mentioned expense, I want to point out that while many may disagree with me, I have found that potting soil can be used over and over. I do add some fertilizer. I have used old potting soil for starts and larger landscape plants and pond plants; basically anything that needs to be in a pot. Many seeds will last for several years as well, although you should probably save them in a zip lock bag inside away from the high humidity.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 8:36PM
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melikeeatplants

Nice blog. Some things you can learn from forums and some things you learn from experience. Everything you did (successes and failures) are valuable. It's harder doing things in containers too. Anything that can go in the ground (or a raised bed open to the ground) is much easier.

Here are my new this year raised beds in front yard:

Here is a link that might be useful: Summer Vegetables

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:33PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Muuuuust Haaaave croc booooooots! Unfortunately they only have size 4,5 and 6. Maybe they'll have more in the fall. Nancy

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 8:26PM
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slowjane CA/ Sunset 21

"Muuuuust Haaaave croc booooooots!"
lol yes they are the best. maybe try amazon or zappos? i'm sure they'll stock up for fall too. ;)

Here is a link that might be useful: crocs

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:33PM
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