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Hi Emily... go here... GardenWeb Forums A-Z
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Please see the various Trading and Exchanges forums for posts such as this. They were created so that the discussion forums don't turn into trading forums.
I linked the Seed Trading forum for you below.
Dave

Do you have a seed exchange/library/bank in your area? We have several in our county, and the seeds are from plants grown in the area! So you are pretty sure they are organic and will thrive in our area.The seed exchange I go to actually has a huge seed garden, tended by volunteers and located at a church that also gets some of the produce for those in need.
They also have speakers who have classes on seed saving, growing certain veges, composting etc. Everything is volunteer. I can't do the physical gardening stuff beyond my garden, so I give seeds, altoid mini tins along with a sharpie for marking them for the seed days. Might look into that in your area! Nancy

I have 2 types of melons growing in my garden. Sugar Babies and another I've forgotten what they were (lost tag) but my sugar babies have only grown just over the size of a softball and vine has browned and dried out, still connected to the fruit but haven't gotten any bigger. Are these considered trash or what can I do to help them or have better results next year? The other melons in the garden have also seemed to stop growing, although a few smaller ones have started to grow


My latest update. Finally success! http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/3359183/artichokes-as-an-annual-in-northern-virginia?n=1


When the flowers open, the "broccoli" part (flowers) gets bitter. It is still edible (as are the leaves- which are bitter too).
To eliminate the bitterness (at least for the flowers), boil it for five minutes. Then put it in ice water for a few minutes. Finally, drain well. This is called bleaching.

Well, my point about relevance was that if you really know what's in your greywater, you're certain that plants should be able to tolerate it, and that it isn't a septic hazard, conversations about how to manage gardening over what is essentially sewage flow in a septic tank drainage field doesn't really contribute a lot. If I am careful about what is in my greywater, it's hard to understand how its use could be disadvantageous for vegetable growing. As I keep saying, it's really about what is in your greywater.
Thank you Marianne. That is very interesting about regulations against using greywater. I guess I was only vaguely aware of that. That is certainly a more pertinent issue. It must be a matter of trusting the homeowner to know what is really grey and what is not, and some municipalities don't. As in, how dark a shade of grey. Now, I can imagine that stuff that comes out of dishwashers and clothes washers could, under some circumstances, when used by environmentally clueless folks, be truly environmentally hazardous waste. Now, how is it justified that rainwater collection from a rooftop is illegal in Nevada? Seems to me that if you don't collect it, it's just going to end up in the soil anyway. That regulation is about timing, rather than pollution.

The municipal water authority has the right to the runoff from the rain so it can go into Lake Mead and if you interfere with their right to their watershed runoff, you're in big trouble. You can't even have rain gutters on your house in Clark county and I'm sure they'd never let you keep & use your grey water. After all, it is their water.
Water regulation is serious business. Even if you own your own water rights, you still may not pond or make use of the water however you want. The local governments have every right to regulate it for health & safety reasons (imagine someone with cholera showered and then used it in the garden and kids played in it...) and because of the intense amount of water rights laws. Many municipalities specifically prohibit the use of grey water on edible crops (Pima County, for instance) and will only approve a system that waters non-edible landscaping.

John, you couldn't have made a less porous potting medium if you tried. I'd be very surprised if it it wasn't a bit soggy in the lower portion of the mix.
Regarding the leaf miners.....they are protected from contact pesticides like malathion and pyrethrin once the larvae are inside the leaf tissue. Your chemical application did little to nothing to solve that issue. Leaf miners are usually considered cosmetic.
Without a look-see in person, I'd be hesitant in diagnosing the problems going on, but I would guess that the MG potting soil+compost+manure is part of the issue. Good stuff for real in situ garden soil, not so much in a container.

Thank you for the reply!
This is the first time I have tried to grow vegetables and it is a lot more difficult than I thought. The plant seems to be dying despite my best efforts. Whatever it is, it's spreading from the older leaves to the younger leaves. The plant was growing like crazy at first then just started dying...
For next year, what should I use for potting soil?


wow a lot of incorrect data, kale nothing attacks? Got slugs and cabbage lopers killing it this year - despite max apps of organic stuff (neem oil, etc).
Without a doubt many things take ten times more work. I grow 50 things and 10% take 90% of my work. Literally.
Beans but pole beans are best by far IMO. Tomatoes take a lot of trimming and staking. Summer squash tastes 10x better then winter. Peppers. Zuc's. beets. corn. asparagas, watermelon, chard, lettuce is great to in cooler weather. Peanuts - YUMMY and easy. bunching onions. Lots of fruits (perennial to!) but you said veggies. Cucs.
Of the above bugs can hit cucs/squash/zucs (and so can spotty mildew). Big draw back but worth it IMO.
I also try to take into account work to plant/maintain and harvest and prepare. Caprese is great, so are beans and squash.

rhizo, thanks for your response! I've used granulated fertilizer before for flowers. I had success with it (including some 6 foot tall wildflowers that looked like miniature trees.) I was just going to follow the directions on the back of the container. Are there any specific recommendations you have that might deviate from the directions?

You didn't show a pic so here's one you can compare against growing right now (highs in upper 90's) that was seeded just two weeks ago in a heavily OM'd old sandy bed; no fert. It broke surface on the third day and has about a 12 inch spread. That's close to normal for this climate.





they also could be Sweet pimento apple - they can be red or yellow.
I grow Lunchbox peppers, from Johnny's Seeds. I've been growing them for about 3 years, and they're awesome.