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velanzia

hi all, thanks for the replies and information. now i know what it is and ways to prevent it.

@hamiltongardener - Thanks for the tip. I shall do this often to stop the spread!

Thanks.

    Bookmark   June 9, 2014 at 9:44PM
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pkapeckopickldpepprz(z9 a/b FL)

I came here looking for answers of this as well. Mine wilted and some type of inchworms were chewing leaves. They were much smaller than hookworms and almost a vibrant green color. Even after I removed them all on several plants in different pots in different properties, they all declined a slow and steady death. I assumed it was more due to it being 90+ here in Florida and a bunch of rain. Will Swiss Chard last the summer in a hot and wet environment here in Florida?

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 4:34PM
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roselee z8b S.W. Texas

I happened to see this post on "Most Recent Posts" listed on the right. In San Antonio, TX cilantro comes up in the fall, grows very well all winter getting big and bushy, even with a few nights in the teens, and it bolts in late spring. I let it go to seed, and when I can no longer find lower leaves to use the plants are pulled and the seeds sprinkled around. None germinate until fall.

Years ago when I first started gardening I bought a pkg of cilantro seeds and sowed them in the spring. Nothing. Bought another pkg and sowed them. Nothing. Hmmm, must be bad seed. Bought another brand of seed and still none came up -- that is until fall and then I had cilantro EVERYWHERE ... LOL. How seeds know the time of year they are supposed to germinate is beyond me! There is probably a term for plants that do this.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 10:38PM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

I bought mine early in the season expecting to have a big bushy cilantro plant through the summer. To my surprise about 3 weeks later it flowered and turned into the most bitter nasty tasting stuff. Guess I'll be buying it from the market! I'm not latin or asian, so food wise we don't keep our fridge stocked with cilantro, I only use it for salsa and maybe to put in Pho when I feel like cooking something exotic. :)

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 3:08PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Looks good!

Rodney

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 12:51PM
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hudson___wy(3)

We harvested some of our Broccoli Saturday. I was a bit surprised that the varieties we planted were so much alike. We will have to try some of the other varieties listed on this thread. I think we liked the Super Dome the best of the three that we planted. They seemed to have tighter/larger heads when compared to Packman and Sun King. Please post photos of your harvest so we can compare and select varieties for next season.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 3:52AM
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ltilton

I like seeing these followup posts

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 11:00AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

An overload of melons can hurt size and quality. You have some medium melons and one/ones unknown which doesn't help giving help.
I have seen a medium or so melon like Sangria have 5 melons in the first set. They tended to be 18 or 19 pounds apiece and not top quality as Sangria can be about the best there is. two 25 pound Sangrias are better than 5 only fair ones.

In your case, it is partly a matter of how healthy the plants are. If they are vibrantly healthy, they can handle 3 at a time. If average, only 2.

For small varieties...let them set what they will. Very healthy vines can make a nice second setting too.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 3:35PM
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rayrose(8)

I let my melons set as many fruit as they want. The plant will naturally abort some of the fruit. So I let the plant alone and let it do it's own thing. The plant will decide which fruit will mature and which won't.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 9:24AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Hi Keren,

I didn't hazzard a guess, because I really didn't know specifically, beyond that all the plants in your photos looked diseased to me. That was the reason I suggested you post a separate post with the photos, because the subject line of this thread is only about organic gardening tips and doesn't alert another member that you were asking for help with tomato plant problems.

I am posting a link below that another member posted to a thread on the Tomato forum the other day. It has photos of what certain diseases look like, but I think even this doesn't cover them all. If you don't see a photo of what yours look like, I'm sure someone here or on the Tomato forum would have a better idea. Also I believe you can send a sample to your local extension and they can test and tell you exactly what disease it is for the cost of the test.

Here is a link that might be useful: Tomato Diseases

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 9:10PM
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elisa_z5

Prariemoon -- yes, I saw the pics when I came back on. Turns out she was posting while I was writing :)

Keren, I'm wondering if it's one of the wilts -- verticulum or fusarium or walnut? (From looking into my disease handbook) It doesn't seem like blight because your fruit still looks fine. I'm sure the tomato forum will be of more help if you post the photos there.

Also, I know copper spray can burn squash plants if sprayed in mid day sunshine. Are tomatoes also sensitive? A bacterial spray like Serenade is gentler.

At any rate, for sure either soak or spray down your cages before next year with a bleach solution (10:1 water to bleach) as some of the diseases last on the cages and start right up again the next year.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 9:40PM
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Malc1

Having read the article I mentioned to my wife that the Zucchini rotting was probably due to calcium deficiency. She suggested calcium tablets, so I have dissolved two tablets in water and fed it to the plant on two occasions.and it seems to work.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 4:04PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

I was in Hawaii and my daughter was in charge of watering end of may, first week of june. She kept the plants alive.....just. The first several zuks showed signs of BER, then when I got home and consistant watering started happening, I started getting PLENTY! (want some?)
I know pollination wasn't a problem, cause with my herb garden right across the path and herbs interspersed within the garden I have PLENTY of bees!
And GUMBY "Have the words soil test before" sounds a bit rude to me. It's not always possible or affordable! I have 10 different raised beds that may have 10 different soil mixtures in them. CA no longer does the cheap soil tests and sending off 10 soil samples could run a couple hundred $$! That doesn't make my veges more affordable! Nancy

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 8:51PM
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ltilton

A spray of insecticidal soap will also work, better if the beetles don't cooperate

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 9:59AM
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ange2006

Thank you very much for your replies. I'm pretty sure they are pigweed flea beetles because they jump like fleas. They're fast and difficult to hand pick. Spraying will be easier. Thanks again.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 8:34PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

It may just be me, but I'm always leery of other folk's compost products. I'd try it on not so valuable plants first and see how they react after a week or so. If its ok, anything would benefit from it.

tj

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 7:12PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

He's a small independent guy and told me he used to make smaller batches, but had so many people returning he had to double his tank size and he still runs out! Nancy

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 8:29PM
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glib(5.5)

amaranth, a potherb.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 2:00PM
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pennypond USDA 10 Sunset 21 CA

Mine is grown near tomatoes too!
I harvest the top, and cook it (leaves and stems) for 2-3 minutes with a little oil, garlic and salt. It tastes like spinach. The bottom will soon grow tall and bushy, so you can harvest every few days. IMO, certainly a great plant to have in a summer garden - pretty, no fuss, productive, and good tasting.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 4:58PM
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gmanar(7 CLT-NC/ HZ 7)

Try some coffee grounds... I am sure how good or bad they are for potatoes - but since they are so less potent - it might be ok. I am not saying that it will work ... but it seems to have worked for me. Just sprinkle a good 1/4th inch layer of coffee grounds - and water it well. For the next few days water it almost every day to keep it moist.
This is what i did and they are no where to be seen :)

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 10:09AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I guess I keep aiming to just allow the ecology of my garden to balance itself out and I try not to step in at all, unless it's out of balance to the point of making major damage. What do I know about ants and aphids and what their role in the ecosystem needs to be? If I am experiencing major damage, I may need to nudge the balance a little in another direction.

I like the idea of the watering and coffee grounds because it nudges the ants to move to another location where they won't be in your way. Just as I leave the aphids to multiply to the point that they draw in lady bugs looking for a meal. If there aren't enough lady bugs and there's more damage than is acceptable to me, then I'd hose them off the plants. Which I haven't had to do in years.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 4:03PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Sherm, in Massachusetts, we do get down below zero here but not all that often. Last winter we were in the single digits more than we usually are. The average number of days we fall below freezing in a year, is 98 days. Compared to an average of 12 days at 90 degrees or above. Although, that number seems low to me.

I would not have thought they could keep chickens in an unheated space in Alaska. Does that mean an outdoor shed, with no insulation and nothing for a heat source, I wonder?

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 11:19AM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Sherm........most of them quit laying much after about 9 years. I have one that laid a couple eggs last year.
No, I never used supplemental lighting. I figured they needed the break. I have the feeling they wouldn't have lived as long, had I used extra lighting.
Also, I'll bet those hens who get extra lighting have more ovary problems later on. Ovarian cancer is pretty common (along with the eggs going into the abdominal cavity, etc.) among hens, since they get worked so much!
My easter-eggers seemed to be the most prolific layers. I sure do miss those home-grown eggs! I don't know if I will get more hens. I'm 64 and getting tired. :)

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 12:53PM
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mdfarmer

Cucumber and zucchini plants tend to get diseased after a few weeks of production, no matter what you do. Both are susceptible to mildew, cucumbers will get bacterial wilt from cucumber beetles, zucchini can get attacked by vine borers. You can check the base of your zucchini plants for holes and an orange frass. Dig inside and you'll find the larvae.

I succession plant every 2-3 weeks and when the plants look bad i tear them out. You may want to try a fungicide on your plants, especially in the type of wet weather you're dealing with. Liquid copper or Serenade, or some have had luck with homemade fungicides made from baking soda or milk. It won't cure the disease, but will help protect any new growth.

If it's bacterial wilt, there's no cure for that. Infected vines will die. It's very common with cucumbers; one bite from a cucumber beetle is all it takes.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 8:23AM
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conchitaFL(10 Hutchinson Island)

In FL at this time of year there's also the dreaded pickleworm in addition to all the other problems. This just isn't the time of year for most of us to try these plants because of all the disease/insect problems, also production slows way down when the heat and humidity really kick in.

If you haven't seen it, the U of F's Agricultural department has an excellent guide to vegetable gardening in FL, including when best to plant:

Here is a link that might be useful: IFAS planting guide

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 10:16AM
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njitgrad

I harvested them today. They were small, about the size of golf balls. The tops looked kind of dry. Will see what my wife makes of them since I'm not a fan of beets.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 6:08PM
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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

Forgot to mention zone, I'm in zone 6 PA.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 8:57AM
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angie52

More pics

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 7:22AM
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angie52

More pics

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 7:23AM
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