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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

That's a good point. I don't have a lot of expertise with that, but my fully beige butternuts last about a year at room temperature.

One good hint for winter squash storage I've learned is, before putting them away, wash well and then dip in water with some bleach added to it. That kills the surface bacteria.

    Bookmark     August 6, 2014 at 10:43AM
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Springy

@ltilton- thank you!! that must be the reason I am reading to keep them on the vine as long as possible. it must be the storage issue. I will go ahead and pick that large one once ready and a few more as we plan to eat them and keep the ones I plan to store on the vine as long as possible.

    Bookmark     August 6, 2014 at 1:07PM
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sweetquietplace(6 WNC Mtn.)

I experimented with Midnight Moon. When one of its tall vines flopped over on the ground, the suckers (what would be suckers on a tomato plant) started growing straight up. I threw dirt on the prone vine where the suckers joined. Yesterday I harvested a fully-developed large potato from one of the suckers. Hooray!

    Bookmark     August 6, 2014 at 8:03AM
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donna_in_sask

Looks more like a brassica to me, like cabbage for example...grown in non-ideal conditions.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 6:16PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Yes, a mass of Brassica seedlings. As Donna said, they needed transplanting a good while ago. Could be cabbage, broccoli, cauli, sprouts. Not possible to tell from the picture.

Definitely edible.

    Bookmark     August 6, 2014 at 5:43AM
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pjgooch51

Close-up of half-wilting leaf...

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 9:57PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Looks like a classic case of verticillium wilt. There's not much you can do about it except letting the plant produce as long as it can before it dies. I deal with it in my garden as well. Some plants continue to hang on and produce, while some plants die quickly. It depends on how much fungal inoculum entered the plant, how aggressive the particular strain is, the weather, and many other factors.

It will get worse every subsequent year if you continue growing eggplants, potatoes, tomatoes or peppers in this bed. Since I have limited space, my plan is to inoculate all my Solanaceous transplants next year with the antagonistic fungus Trichoderma harzianum, as well as inoculate the soil with corn meal mixed with Trichoderma. I have read anecdotal evidence that this can help limit verticillium and fusarium infections in subsequent years although there will always be some incidence of infection.

Management options that may suppress the severity of Verticillium infections in subsequent years include keeping relatively high levels of ammonium nitrogen in the soil (such as by using slow release ammonium fertilizer), mulching soil with plastic to keep it warm/hot and maintaining an acidic soil pH. The stones (or bark mulch? I can't make out in the picture) probably keep the soil cool, which encourages this fungus.

Verticillium is extremely long-lived in the soil. My garden used to be a grassy hay field for at least a decade. The good thing is that strains of verticillium adapted to other families tend to not kill Solanums (and vice-versa) but still cause symptoms such as those you're seeing.

I should also add that you are overwatering. Although too late to correct it this year, limit how often you water established plants next year in order to limit the growth of fungal pathogens. Eggplants are fairly deep-rooted and especially with that bark mulch, once every two days is FAR too much water. I water mine every two weeks once they've become established - in your hotter climate, once a week should be adequate.

This post was edited by Slimy_Okra on Tue, Aug 5, 14 at 22:53

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 10:40PM
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edweather(Zone 5a/b Central NY)

Kind of looks like old leaves at the end of their life. How long has the plant been growing? Maybe a bit dry and underfed, but mostly just played out.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 6:35PM
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jimmy56_gw (zone 6 PA)

I'm thinking it is a fungus, Spray with a fungicide, I take those leaves off and throw them away from the garden.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 9:45PM
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RissaR

Yes, the flowers are white, maybe 1.5-2" across.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 7:13PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Yeah, it's definitely a gourd. Probably a bushel gourd. I'm sure your neighbor will gladly tell you what kind it is if you ask.

Rodney

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 7:37PM
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xxnonamexx(7a)

Thanks I would have to see what Home Depot offers and decide what wood is best. I don't want it to rot. If anything pressure treated or I will stain the wood before it goes in. The pathway I think will be with gravel to eliminate the weeds as mulch I have headaches when blowing grass etc.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 3:50PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Gravel is certainly another option. I like the look of pea gravel. I just like to kneel on something softer. [g] Pressure treated wood I don't believe is recommended for vegetable beds because of the chemicals that can leach into the soil. Same for staining the wood, unless you just stain the outside, which probably won't help much. We are leaving our wood without stain to weather naturally and we'll get as long as we get from it.

I tried using cement blocks once, thinking it would last a long time, but, I didn't like the way the plants grew in it. I think the soil became too hot and something was leaching from the cement into the beds, so I finally dismantled it.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 6:29PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

Well, my jalapenos have bought the farm now too. Squash on the border nearby are fine, and tomatoes, a few yards away, are looking great.

I think I'll clear the area, do some deep digging over the winter, and try something else here next year. I can move eggplants here, and move my peppers around the corner where the eggplants are now.

I'm not sure eggplants are any more resistant to blight, but it's probably time to do some rotation anyway.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 4:38PM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

OK, pulled some jalapenos that were wilting, and the white threads of mold on the roots and lower stem are clear. It's blight.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 5:44PM
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farmerdill

Velvet leaf (Abutilon theophrasti) It is just a pretty weed.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 2:42PM
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ctblue

You guys are great! Velvet leaf it is. Time to start weeding.
Thank you.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 3:58PM
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ltilton

Looks like aphids

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 3:07PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Looks like aphids to me as well. To upload multiple photos in a single post you first need to upload them to a third party site such as photobucket. Then you copy and paste the HTML link from there to here.

Rodney

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 3:46PM
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tdscpa(z5 NWKS)

If you have to dig up your onions, you planted them way too deep, and they will be very small.

Mine grow on top of the ground, and are very easy to just lift. Mine also seem to have finished very early this year , but they did attain a pretty good size. Unfortunately, I do not have a cool place to store them.

Guess I'll spread them out on cardboard in my shop when the tops flop over. (Some already have).

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 1:54AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

My onions are not fully on top of the ground, but are partly down in the ground. I like them that way and they grow to great size and soundness and are less 'greened'.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 9:47AM
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rinigado

did both: I picked off and disposed of any leaves with white fly crop circles, and gave it all a good spray of organocide.

Now how do I make my hands not smell like fish oil??

    Bookmark     August 3, 2014 at 5:43PM
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tdscpa(z5 NWKS)

Crop circles! Aliens! Ha!.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 3:02AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I have a few like that, but most have fallen over now [Candy). They are excellent again this year.

    Bookmark     August 4, 2014 at 1:03PM
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tdscpa(z5 NWKS)

Do you grow from sets or from transplants? Did you change?

Shrivel? Have you watered them?

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 2:56AM
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Mscook

It looks like an immature spaghetti squash, which starts out green-striped and finishes light yellow.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 2:22AM
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RebeccaO

That appears to be an unripe spaghetti squash.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2014 at 2:40AM
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ltilton

By the third flush, I find the quality falling off, but they're still producing beans.

    Bookmark     August 4, 2014 at 8:42PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

Last year, I planted bush beans over the July 4th weekend, and froze enough beans to last through the winter... I'm still eating them. The average frost date here is around October 5th, so with a frost date 10-14 days later & more heat than I have, there is plenty of time to get a good crop. This year, I planted "Emerite" pole beans on July 5th, and they are beginning to climb & bud up, so they too should bear well before frost.

Bush beans & English peas are good crops to plant in mid-summer bare spots, since they will not only give you food before frost, they will enrich the soil.

I agree with OldDutch that beans - like many vegetables - are better flavored if harvested in cool Fall weather. I usually plant my snap beans earlier, but when the weather prevents that (as it did here last year) I can't help but notice that the quality of late-planted beans has been outstanding.

    Bookmark     August 4, 2014 at 11:18PM
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