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christripp

Wrigley, I've never seen ants chew through and take down plants at the base, are you sure it isn't perhaps cut worms?
I've never had any problems from my ants in the garden (hey, they are Canadian Ants, maybe they are really polite eh?:)
But yes, if you do have real problems with them, a mix of baking soda/sugar/water in any containers will help lessen the population. They take it back to the queen, or they ingest it and ... I think they explode but I really don't want to know:(
Have to admit to never needing to try this but I've heard of too many people raving about this to doubt it's effectiveness. The "recipe" below lists yeast too, I guess there are a number of combo's but likely they all work just as well. You don't need holes in the lids, if ants can crawl up vertical kitchen cabinets to the counter tops, they can manage a jam jar lid or even a bowl set in the ground a little so it doesn't get tipped over by you, just fine. If the bowl is level with the ground, this will also trap slugs and earwigs, so double duty (they drowned). Beer used to be used for slug/earwigs but what a waste of good beer:)

Here is a link that might be useful: baking soda and sugar water

    Bookmark   June 11, 2013 at 3:33AM
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sphinx_face

The thing I think is important to remember is that some bugs are nocturnal, like I believe the cutworms are. You might find something munching the plant bases if you go out with a flashlight after the sun goes down.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 4:05PM
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jctsai8b(8B)

I use 10 to 1 diluted urine to water my long squash once a week, it is growing pretty well.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 11:47AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

For fertilizing soil that has good organic matter and previous years rotted horse manure with a lot of hay in it, I like to scatter and work in some slow release fertilizer like Plant Tone in the planting hill or row and then band some faster release fertilizer around or along the plants. This lasts all season.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 11:57AM
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sweetquietplace(6 WNC Mtn.)

I'm having to harvest my potatoes a bit early because of all the rain. I've solved the non-keeping problem by canning them.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 11:37AM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Those look delicious.

The reds grow, large and early.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 11:50AM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

While this does tend to be a normal occurrence, it can also indicate a nitrogen deficiency when the oldest leaves yellow and fall off.

Most likely it is as galinas says, but what are your watering and feeding habits?

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 5:16PM
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mdy113

watering them regular, keeping soil moist, but not over watered. about every week and half adding liquid food to water (which has highest number in nitrogen) i think its 12-8-4, plants are thriving, but maybe it is the whole lack of sun thing for those bottom leaves.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 11:18AM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

Hi, could be a number of things from sun scald of the leaves perhaps to vitamin deficiency... that soil looks pretty dry... I can't really say. Have you fertilized? Do you water consistently? Ants like my bean plants too, as well as my sunflowers. Don't ask me why... no aphids from what I can see.

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 12:53AM
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elisa_z5

They don't look like they're dying -- and your harvest may not be affected by these leaf issues. I've had deer eat all the leaves off my bean plants, and they still sprouted new leaves and produced beans just fine. I do see a wilted leaf in the right of your squash photo -- is that another squash plant? Now THAT one looks like it's in trouble (hopefully it's just a weed you've pulled and let lie!)

Wait -- I just looked closer. Is that squash in a pot or in the ground? If it's in a pot, it may be stressed from not enough space (if that is a pot, it looks too small for the plant.)

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 10:15AM
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bart1(6/7 Northern VA)

Thanks folks!

How cured is cured? When the tops are completely dry?

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 4:22PM
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mav72(10b)

Yep completely dried leaves and dried layered bulb skins on the outside..

    Bookmark   July 12, 2014 at 12:01AM
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Aaron_Wisconsin_(5)

I had similar issues with radish. I learned they need a lot water and cool temperature to grow well.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 11:13PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Where are you located? What garden zone? Please do include that info in the box provided.

It is far too late, soil is too warm in most of the country for radishes now. With heat and warm soil all you get is tops with little to no root development.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 11:31PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Just because a pot is self-watering from below doesn't mean you can also water it from above and just let the water drain into the bottom of the pot. Put a couple inches of new mix in the bottom of the pot packing it into the wicking chambers in the pot, wet it well, set the root ball of the plant on it and pack fresh potting mix in all around it, water it well, firm down the new mix and add more if needed. Add more water from the top until it drains out of the drain hole provided. Then set the plant out of the direct sun for a day or so until it recovers from transplanting.

Mulch the top of the soil well and from now on just keep the bottom resivoir filled with water as needed.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 11:27PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

hnycrk- NOW we're talkin! So, I get photobucket on my phone and also gardenweb onto the phone as an app? I think if I can get the basic idea down I can go to BB and they have a Samsung guy there all the time. We're also going to take an I-pad class, so I can do it from my new I-pad mini.
Getting closer

rhizo-the one that still (or again) lives with us knows the basics (texting, facebook, photos etc). The other one I don't see much and is always busy when she's around!

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 1:58AM
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hnycrk(8a)

Yes there is a photo bucket app, don't know if there's a gardenweb app. I view the gardenweb forum on my phones Internet browser. Once you have your pictures on photobucket you can upload them here..

Example, just took this with my phone.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 10:12PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Well, I'm on the West coast, so I can garden pretty much all year long.
But for fall/winter I like chard and kale. Both are very hardy.
Spinach seems to take so much to get a meal, I stick to the chard. It keeps coming back!
Lettuces, radish, snow peas.... once planted, asparagus is an early spring thing (the start of garden season!)
I don't go for peas, cause you have to plant SO many for just a couple of meals! Brussel sprouts grew great the first year, til I went out in the garden with my glasses ON and found that they were so infested with aphids they were beyond just spraying them down! (I wear my glasses in the garden now! LOL)
You mentioned forgetting about the broc, cauliflower and single harvest veges. IMHO, I usually grow some just to have them, but don't count on them for my winter veges. Just from time to time. If you're together enough (which I am NOT!) to plant a few seeds each week to space out the timing....MAYBE, but ,as you said you only have a small area to plant in!
You might want to just concentrate on things you can can/preserve/freeze with your small area, or think about getting some more space in a community garden to expand. I have over an acre, but my garden consists of 4 4x8s, 2 3x6s, 2 3x3sin ground raised beds, and a couple of new raised up 3x8x1s.
Contact your county extension office (or go online) to find a planting guide! You can also check out the Harvest forum to get some ideas on what to do with your veges!
Personally, I use a FOODSAVER which is a vaccum sealer system!
And I go on! Nancy

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 9:28PM
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msmorningsong(SW FL 10A)

Straight from the pages of 'Rodales Garden Answers' book....

Broccoli: Fresh eating: 5 to 10 plants per person
(One plant can produce 2lbs. of main heads & sideshoots)

Brussels Sprouts: For fresh eating, plant 5 to 10 plants per person

Cauliflower: Grow 5 plants per person, twice that for winter preservation.

Collards: Grow 3 to 5 plants per person

Kale: 2 to 5 plants per person.

Mustard Greens: Not listed

Spinach: 10 plants per person per planting.

Turnips: A few feet of row per person per planting.

Here is a link that might be useful: Rodales garden Answers Book @ Amazon

This post was edited by MsMorningSong on Sat, Jul 12, 14 at 10:31

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 9:36PM
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planterjeff(7b Grant Park Atlanta)

wertach, it seems you and I have some things in common!

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 9:57AM
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wertach zone 7-B SC

I'm glad that I'm not the only one!

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 4:33PM
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gmatx zone 6

You might try shading the row where you plant your beets by laying a 1"x4" board down on it for a few days after you plant. Be sure you check daily and when you begin to see signs of the seeds germinating, remove the board. That should help the soil to be slightly cooler and will help keep it moist to aid germination.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 2:16PM
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Cobarchie

Thanks for the info and the advice with the beets. I figured I'd just give it a shot and see what happens; it's just nice to know if it would be a complete waste of time before I tried it.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 4:00PM
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sandpapertongue(7a VA)

Definitely not chard. Might be pokeweed.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 1:52PM
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farmerdill

Poke weed

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 1:59PM
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jim_1 Zone 5B Illinois(5b)

My experience with Peter Rabbit is that there is a bite, not a nibble. It also appears to be less tender than what my Peter Rabbit would prefer.

Peter has nibbled on my green beans, topped two dill plants, topped one of my okra and, of course the peas and lettuce. Nothing as dense as a cuke.

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 12:44PM
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Kay17jan

I have a fenced yard, and rabbit and squirrels are the only ones I have seen here...

All my tomato plants are eaten that is what bothers me more, and this is the only thing I have to show, since the tomatoes and it's leaves are all gone and vanished!!

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 1:37PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Without seeing the plant can't say for sure but when mine do it I just cut off the cracked part and the rest regrows fine.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 12:50PM
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lkzz(7b)

If the split isn't due to the Squash Vine Borer (which you could pull out of the stalk with tweezers or inject the stalk with BT) - you can bury the split area with dirt.

Here is a link that might be useful: Squash Vine Borer in Zucchini Stalk

    Bookmark   July 11, 2014 at 12:51PM
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