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balloonflower(5b Denver CO, HZ 5-6, Sunset 2b)

Several dozen? I get all I need from 2-3plants! Wow!

    Bookmark     August 3, 2014 at 4:55PM
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KSprairie

My tomatillos don't seem to be making it to maturity. They are still dropping at a steady rate. The few that have matured are currupted by a worm. :( I have dusted with Bt with the hope that will help, but I haven't ID'd the worm yet so who knows.
Any other thoughts why the fruits aren't making it to maturity?
I have an insane number of plants.... planted a full seed packet thinking germination might be a problem. Obviously it wasn't. Could overcrowding be an issue? Lack of sunlight in the interior of the tomatillo jungle?

    Bookmark     August 24, 2014 at 2:03AM
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lgteacher(SCal)

It looks light a member of the nightshade family that is a weed. The little berries will turn purple. Pull it out!

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 11:25PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Agreed. Yank it.

Rodney

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 11:57PM
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glib(5.5)

some are weeds, probably crab grass, and some are lettuce. for example, mapping the picture onto (0,1) in x and (0,1) in y, the group at (0.7,0.3) is mostly lettuce. the group at (0.2,0.8) is mostly crabgrass. you have crab grass in the spinach picture too, with very little spinach (not uncommon, spinach are slow germinators, specially in warm soil).

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 12:16PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

I see lots of probable lettuce, esp vs your other pic

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 5:55PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Agree with the others. Harvest the ones you've planted. You could replant yours but it would probably be a couple years or so before the bulbs sized back up. So unless the garlic you are growing are either hard to find or expensive to buy, it would be best to start with fresh stock planted in the fall. And as has been mentioned, hardneck garlic are usually hardier and will probably do better for you than softnecks.

Rodney

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 11:30AM
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dancercr

Alright. Thanks so much everyone!!!

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 3:45PM
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Jade Bush BeansJade Bush Beans - a variety to consider
Posted by hudson___wy(3) August 22, 2014
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soilent_green

"I'd be very very happy to find a yellow version of Jade." - Me too. They could name it "Amber". And a purple version - they could call it "Amethyst". :-)

I have found Carson wax to have somewhat similar traits as Jade...

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 11:06AM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Hmm, I wasn't planning on growing Jade again next year but you all are making me rethink things.

Rodney

This post was edited by theforgottenone1013 on Sat, Aug 23, 14 at 11:21

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 11:20AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

I got mine at Harbor Freight. $5 Cheap, but they're cheap...lol So cheap, I picked up 2.

Maybe Walmart, definitely Home Depot.

Yes. It is sorta satisfying.

Kevin

This post was edited by woohooman on Fri, Aug 22, 14 at 22:20

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 9:58PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

I needed one of those hand held bug zappers just to walk near my tree line... the deer flies were horrible this year. Bought another to carry with me in the garden; now that everything has grown, the mosquitoes are horrible. Had wasps in the play set, bumped their nest & zapped them as they came out. A couple of swipes wipes out anything flying in the vicinity. IMO, one of the better recent inventions for gardeners & those who spend a lot of time outdoors.

I guess the really weird question is how I put up with the bugs for so many years without one. Sure beats putting a butterfly net over my head. ;-)

    Bookmark     August 23, 2014 at 12:15AM
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gardener_sandy

The people to ask this question is the company that made the product you sprayed. There should be a phone number or website address on the container. Call/email them and tell them exactly how you used it. They will tell you if/when it's safe to eat the produce that was exposed to the spray.

Always read and follow the label directions on any pesticide you use, most especially near your vegetables.

Sandy

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 8:24PM
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mfal

I understand not to eat any vegetable that can in contact with the spray , my concern is I sprayed it into the soil can the chemical go to the vegetable through the roots ??

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 9:47PM
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moraleagle(6a)

What are you gonna do with emitter location after crop rotation?

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 9:23AM
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little_minnie(zone 4a)

I had a bad phone call with Berry Hill last year and sulked and didn't order from them. This year I did. Their stuff is superior and prices are good. I think the tape can last 2-3 years if rodents don't chew on it. I had bad gopher problems before and had to toss all the t tape every year. Now I have killed the gophers and the tapes are looking good. I am not going to throw them out. Berry Hill's accessories are much better than Drip Work's too.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 8:49PM
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catherinet(5 IN)

As far as the safety of galvanized stuff, you might google that question, in regards to galvanized metal stocktanks. I decided to go with the food grade poly tanks, because some of the literature said that zinc levels might get a bit high in the soil, from the zinc in the galvanization process.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 1:18PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Ahhh - I wondered about the galvanized process. Thanks Catherine, I will give it a google. :-)

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 5:08PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I'm a little further south, but have tried Lamkin. I didn't do all that well with it. Some of my problem has been soil borne fungus that cause mature vine decline and wilt.

I gave up on Lamkin and for something a little different, I have Burpee Early Hybrid Crenshaw which can do so well. I had a 22 pounder a couple years ago and they are doing well this year.

    Bookmark     August 9, 2014 at 9:59AM
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ztom

I grew one this year near Youngstown, OH. I got several melon varieties going from seed early and transplanted them near Memorial Day. The Lambkin didn't take, so I planted another seed directly in the ground. I planted the melons in a mound surrounded by black weed paper. I only got one Lambkin melon and I picked it two days ago (Aug 20). I was very happy with the flavor, but I probably should have left it in for another few days. I will definitely plant more next year, (hopefully by transplant to give me an earlier start). I also was real happy with my blacktail mountain watermelons this year. I also planted yellow doll and new queen watermelons. I have picked one so far and it was very good, but I'm not sure which of the two it was. I also tried minnesota midget cantaloupes but the flavor was not very good. In summary, I was thrilled that a directly sown lambkin melon turned out so well for me despite less than ideal weather, I just wish I would have gotten a few more.

This post was edited by Ztom on Fri, Aug 22, 14 at 8:24

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 8:19AM
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gwpunt2(Georgia-7)

Hope so. The seed packet claimed that Tatuma is 'practically immune' to SVB. Time will tell, am about to harvest the first fruit, it had better taste good :-) Trombocino looks WAY too big for my garden. Will report back later.

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 10:39AM
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gwpunt2(Georgia-7)

Reporting back on Tatuma squash. Wow what a find. They are still producing here in Georgia in late August. Yes they get mildew, some pickle worm, maybe minimal squash vine borer. But they are so productive and keep rooting down and 'starting over'. The fruits are tops in flavor, if they get too big I just scrape out the seeds and pith and they cook up just fine. Smaller ones have tender seeds and edible centers. I don't even refrigerate them after harvest except the really small ones, they sit on the counter for days. I hear they grill up well but I've only roasted or sauted them. Everyone I share them with are in love with Tatuma. My strategy next year is to start a hill at one end of a row and just send it up the row - it is viney - and if necessary take up the old part as it gets ratty. When the foliage is really lush the first half of the season it's actually hard to find the squash in there, another reason to have a long slim row of the things. I've left 2 to mature - they say they also make excellent winter squash, and I want to save some seed, will probably save a few more to be sure there's no cross pollination from any lingering pitiful zukes, etc.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 7:30AM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

TBH, I've never actually measured how fast individual fruits grow because I have too many plants to keep track of (around 300 this year). But usually, the miniature ones take ~10-15 days and the larger Sicilian heirlooms like Rosa Bianca take 3 or more weeks for me. I've never grown Black Beauty. I'm growing a white-fruited variety called White Star that seems to be the fastest one I've seen - about 10-15 days from pollination to fist-size fruit.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 10:34PM
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lantanascape(z6 Idaho)

Try to pick them before they lose their shine or start to get a little rubbery feeling. If they feel very firm, they're good, but as soon as they start to go just a bit soft, they need to be picked right away. A month seems like too long, they're probably not going to reach full size for that variety.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 12:01AM
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catherinet(5 IN)

Maybe you can still pickle it, in some way?
I would also let the seed company know. Send them pics of your "picklers".

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 6:18PM
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pattio2(z4b - ON)

I picked the larger one and sliced it up for dinner tonight. Put some herb salt and vinegar on it. Husband and grandson loved it. Me not so much. Rather have my English cuc.
I have been "ordered" to save seed for next year.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 7:15PM
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samhain10(5a - MI)

Wayne - it's been so long since I've grown them, but that pic Macmex put up seems right. Maybe I just didn't cook them properly. But it could also be that I couldn't get past that tomato-y under-taste, if you get what I mean. I'm like that with foods, unfortunately. Take cilantro, for example. I can't stand it - even the slightest bit in a dish can spoil it for me.
I just followed the link macmex posted to Sand Hill Preservation Center, and see that what he had was, in fact, solanum melanocerasum. There's a detailed recipe for cooking at his post, JBraun. Good detective work, Wayne!

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 9:14AM
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jbraun_gw

samhain10-I'm a regular at Sand hill and this is where the seeds came from. I also used the processing from his catalog to process the Solanum melanocerasum fruit.

On one other past post I saw that someone had much better success by using chicken manure. I planted about 10' and had about 10 plants come up for me. Of those plants I only harvested 2/3 cup. I left one plant for next years seeds. The seeds had turned from shiny to dull as was recommended for an indicator of harvest time.

The recipies that I got online called for garden huckleberries in pancakes. I now realize that that is the common name for blue berries as well.. Anyone have recipes for Solanum melanocerasum?

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 4:59PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

If there is a significant difference in sunshine exposure, leave them outdoors. 21/9 is a typical late August pattern where I live and it does not impede eggplant fruit production all that much. They are more sensitive to cold during the early vegetative stages of growth.

You can try to create a warmer microclimate around them by laying the containers on a sheet of black plastic or other black surface. Besides, your concrete balcony will be much warmer than the officially recorded minimum temperature near the ground.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 12:37PM
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