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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

That is the rationale for leaving them in the ground for extra time, not for leaving the vines to rot in place, I think? Can't you cut down the dying vines and leave them in the ground and the same thing would be accomplished?

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 2:38PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

Yield was not great... dug up just under half the 8' or so row and barely got enough for mashed potatoes.

My first year gardening hasn't been very fruitful so far. A lot of small harvests, I am getting dribs and drabs...

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 10:05PM
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noki

Based on the one pic, they look like common Bush "green beans" like "Royal Burgundy". They look fine to pic now, I agree that they don't look like they are going to get longer.

Maybe a seed mixup.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 9:45PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Agree. They are a purple bush type. And yes, those are ready to pick. When the seeds inside start swelling like that they are past ready.

Rodney

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 9:50PM
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ilovecucumbers Zone 6b, NE PA

Japanese Beetle!
If you know what's good for you
Off the eggplants NOW.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 4:48PM
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loribee2(CA 9)

Seeds planted
Birds, critters, bugs and elements conspire
The war begins

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 6:03PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

Is it too late to start seed for brassicas for the fall?

I started cauliflower [two varieties to space it out] on June 21st and about 5 broccoli of two varieties. then i started the main fall broccoil on July 4th. I have 3 varieties to space it out some.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 3:03PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Thank you Wayne! I guess it's not too late, if I get cracking. Good luck with your fall crop! :-)

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 5:28PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

It's a cross.

Rodney

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 4:53PM
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springtogarden(6)

I agree. A cross

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 5:16PM
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2ajsmama

Figured Bt would work for any caterpillar. Have to see what the moth looks like - these are new up here. They aren't bothering the curly kale though I should just pull that now, that's the only brassica I'm growing. Think if I just pull all the kale and wait a few weeks I'll have them die out, or will it be just in time for the ones who have already matured (?) to lay eggs? I really hate to spray if I don't have to.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 4:22PM
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jkduke22

I got a bunch of different worms all over my cabbage etc this year. I picked them off and put on row cover and that kept the worms away without spraying.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 4:36PM
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ltilton

I have the opposite problem. Stunted, yellowish, rusty leaves with blossoms before they should be forming. It's weird that I can grow healthy bush beans, but my pole beans are always a bust.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 4:12PM
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CourtneyB123

I also have bush beans but they are so limp and small! It has produced one bean but they are just so fragile looking I can't imagine it producing anything much!!

As for the fertilizer, I initially put in a fertilizer specific to vegetable gardens and followed package instructions with mixing fertilizer with my regular south florida soil! Hopefully it's not too much nitrogen for them! I'll post if it starts to produce any vegetables!!! Thanks for all the help everyone!

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 4:23PM
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farmerdill

Wonderberry, Sunberry, Garden Huckleberry are all names for the same plant. I tend to lean toward that one also.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 1:47PM
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katemercer(5)

I am thinking also that it is garden huckleberry now that I have info to look up. I guess I can leave the fruits go until almost fall before I use them. Now I have to look up recipes!! Thanks all!

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 4:21PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

Draw your own conclusions, but for me, I won't use it on my leafy greens.

Here is a link that might be useful: Neem WebMD

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 3:26PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

and another info link.

Here is a link that might be useful: Neem

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 3:27PM
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jeanwedding(6 ky)

I did not explain very good......I am using large containers (tanks) holding previous (water from sky)...... I am on hills... all is gravity....
I have plenty of soaker hoses..... doesnt work too well on gravity. Tried it at old house..... Plus they clog.... I dont want to "water the straw and cardboard "paths" (many paths),,, between all the "boxes" I have over 20 BEDS.... Large large area.... Gave up last nite on hoses. as come back toward the 4 way hoses' (with 50 ft hoses) manifold. loses pressure and hose kept catching on every corner etc.......
wish I could use the grey water but Hubby is overwhelmed with this place as is.... the Honey do list keeps getting longer... and wind and heat is drying even the creek dry...

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 3:06PM
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loribee2(CA 9)

It sounds to me like you are trying to grow a garden bigger than your environment can support.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 3:24PM
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loribee2(CA 9)

Ltilton: If it's any consolation, Fortex freezes well. I blanch, dry, then throw in ziploc freezer bags for a future in minnestrone soup.

tsugajunkie: That's an adorable trellis!

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 11:47PM
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CourtneyB123

Please let me know if your pole beans begin to sprout! I seem to be running into the exact same problem!! Haha.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 2:46PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

Great! Be sure to get a rescue :)

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 1:39PM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

Couldn't agree more peter! :)

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 1:42PM
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galinas(5B)

Thank you, Dave, I will try it this year and let you know how it works on carrots.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 10:26PM
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planatus(6)

I don't have root knot nematodes but I did the mustard treatment after my potatoes last year anyway. It was kind of fun to do, chopping the greens and getting them turned under in 30 minutes. I think it was good for the soil in a yum yum way, and because of the digging and chopping I managed to get every last spud out of the ground. That spot went to onions this year, and it has performed well.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 8:26AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Properly stored - cool and dry - they are viable for at least 5-6 years. Even longer according to some over on the Seed Saving forum when they are stored in the fridge.

And can growing conditions affect the pod shell? Most definitely. Air temps especially as well as watering practices.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 11:05PM
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planatus(6)

I think there are definite variations in pea strains, and I'm saving seeds from a shell pea I really like. But I agree that cultural conditions make a huge difference, especially planting date.

The wait for mature pea seeds is much shorter than many other veggies -- only about two extra weeks. The pea variety I like is expensive to buy, so my little knot of spoiled rotten seed plants should save me ten bucks.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 8:20AM
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terrene(5b MA)

I like zucchini the same size as in Farmerdill's picture, young and tender, sliced & stir-fried, or cubed and put in something like gazpacho.

But what a great idea - zoodles! I had to go and check out what a julienne peeler is.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 10:26PM
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dennyav

We use the zukes in a frihata(?) mix with eggs that is baked with parmesan cheese on top...

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 12:53AM
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