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loribee2(CA 9)

Ltilton: If it's any consolation, Fortex freezes well. I blanch, dry, then throw in ziploc freezer bags for a future in minnestrone soup.

tsugajunkie: That's an adorable trellis!

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 11:47PM
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CourtneyB123

Please let me know if your pole beans begin to sprout! I seem to be running into the exact same problem!! Haha.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 2:46PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

Great! Be sure to get a rescue :)

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 1:39PM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

Couldn't agree more peter! :)

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 1:42PM
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galinas(5B)

Thank you, Dave, I will try it this year and let you know how it works on carrots.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 10:26PM
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planatus(6)

I don't have root knot nematodes but I did the mustard treatment after my potatoes last year anyway. It was kind of fun to do, chopping the greens and getting them turned under in 30 minutes. I think it was good for the soil in a yum yum way, and because of the digging and chopping I managed to get every last spud out of the ground. That spot went to onions this year, and it has performed well.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 8:26AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Properly stored - cool and dry - they are viable for at least 5-6 years. Even longer according to some over on the Seed Saving forum when they are stored in the fridge.

And can growing conditions affect the pod shell? Most definitely. Air temps especially as well as watering practices.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 11:05PM
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planatus(6)

I think there are definite variations in pea strains, and I'm saving seeds from a shell pea I really like. But I agree that cultural conditions make a huge difference, especially planting date.

The wait for mature pea seeds is much shorter than many other veggies -- only about two extra weeks. The pea variety I like is expensive to buy, so my little knot of spoiled rotten seed plants should save me ten bucks.

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 8:20AM
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terrene(5b MA)

I like zucchini the same size as in Farmerdill's picture, young and tender, sliced & stir-fried, or cubed and put in something like gazpacho.

But what a great idea - zoodles! I had to go and check out what a julienne peeler is.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 10:26PM
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dennyav

We use the zukes in a frihata(?) mix with eggs that is baked with parmesan cheese on top...

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 12:53AM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

20 plants?????? Zounds!
DH and I (and several neighbors) get by with 1 zuk and 1 crook necked yellow squash!
BTW Aug 8th is leave some squash on your neighbor's porch day! ;)

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:07PM
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gumby_ct(CT it says Z5)

Brown dots on the back of leaves (clustered together) may be eggs of the squash beetle. You may also see little beetles walking around the plant.

Use the sticky side of some tape (duct tape works good) to remove the eggs by pressing the tape on the eggs. Also works on the walking beetles.

These beetles are diff from the Squash Vine Borer (SVB) which lay eggs of the same color but are laid singly on the stem of the plant.

While to can try to save the wilting plant, it can be futile. Plant more plants if you haven't had enuff yet.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:54PM
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2ajsmama

Burlap ok?

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 7:30PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Lori...love that book! I'm in the Stony Point/Todd area,the flat lands, so we are usually several degrees cooler in fall and winter than SR or RP.
I'm a lazy winter gardener and usually cover most of my raised beds with cardboard to keep the weeds away, but usually have some broccoli, chard, kale, carrots, celery.
Nancy

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:18PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I planted my fall carrots and beets on July 1st so you need to hurry. Turnips likely need to be planted up there too...July 23rd here.

Carrots need to stand 2 or 3 inches apart. Rows need to be 12 inches apart.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 1:00PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Where exactly do you live? In Saskatchewan, carrots should have already been planted, although it is not too late to seed now. Turnips should also go in within the next week. Keep in mind that most fall veggies tolerate frost, so don't go by the first frost date. Go by the first -5 degrees C date as this is usually when those veggies start to decline unless protection is provided. Beets can be seeded in mid to late July.

There are lots of non-root fall veggies that can be planted as late as late August here. Look at the DTM and add 2 weeks plus typical time to germination, then count backwards.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 1:57PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yeah unfortunately pollen doesn't work well when wet - which is why humidity affects it so much . But if it dries out quickly in the bloom some of it may take. Hard to say for sure till you see the results.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:42PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

so will mature sperm wait inside an immature flower for a few days and then pollinate it when the female is ready?

No, viable pollen is very short lived, hours, not days, with the number of hours determined by both hormonal and environmental conditions. That's one reason why you normally get so many more male blooms and why most plant more than 1 plant (to insure the timing for pollination)..

The female bloom in your picture looks like it will open within 12-18 hours of when the photo was taken. You or a bee and a newly opened male has to be there at that time . :)

Dave

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:39PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Please read rhizo's explanation again, slowly, so that you can fully understand the time line that nature has set.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:40PM
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planterjeff(7b Grant Park Atlanta)

So I just had them hit my zucchini hard. I suggest fighting the good fight! I had one plant that had the entire stem chewed down to about 3/4 of its original size. It was literally hanging on by a few single strands! I used my finger to clear out as much of the goo as I could and then sprayed the entire wound with a strong mix of BT. After I let the BT sit and work all morning i used my hose to really clean the wound well. Once the wound was clear and only green tissue was left, I applied a big mound of compost/soil mixture around the base covering the problem area by at least 6 inches. Basically a cone of dirt around the stem. I then applied a compost tea and watered twice a day for a week or so. I followed up with BT spraying/injections around various sections of the stem during the following two nights and mornings and placed TP rolls around exposed stem areas. After a few days, the plant was back to its original vigor! So, yes you can save them!! Just add the BT to your regime. This kills the worms. Also, if you let your squash run along the ground, bury various nodes under the soil because they will develop separate root systems. This makes it so the plant will live even if a svb severs the vine in between the buried sections. The wounds will also grow new roots so keep them buried and watered well until they establish the new roots. Good luck

This post was edited by PlanterJeff on Wed, Jul 9, 14 at 13:25

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:15PM
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jkduke22

Thanks for the advice! I think I will try the BT and burying the stems more....the plants truly are out of control and are vining several feet on the ground instead of standing upright as I thought they were suppose to do. So, I think they will be good candidates to getting more roots going in the way you described.

Thanks!

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:24PM
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djkj(9b)

Can you please tell us what soil/mix you used?

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 4:43PM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

It is the soil. Add manure, or or mushroom compost. Your soil is too woody.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:32AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

I can't remember where I saw this, but there is a marvelous YouTube video around about using diatomaceous earth to deal with stink bugs. Yes, everyone says to use it, but they don't really say how!

What you do is get your shop vac out, and connect the hose to the output, so you use it as a blower. Then mist the tomatoes. Now grab a handful of DE and, while standing in front of the tomatoes, blow the DE all over them. It sticks! My understanding is that this *completely* removes the stink bug problem. Yes, rinse off the harvested tomatoes before you eat them. This treatment needs to be done just every few weeks (unless it rains hard.)

I had a bad problem with stink bugs and tomatoes last year, before I heard about this strategy. I was picking and vacuuming until I was blue in the face. I've been prepared to use this strategy, but haven't yet seen a single stink bug.

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 9:48AM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

If you are gonna spray, then I agree with Dan.

But for this time of year, if it is not the stink bugs it will be something else. I would pull them out, and replant for the fall crop. Organic tomatoes in Texas are only good for spring and fall. Forget about trying summer unless you want to go to war with bugs.

Spring: harvest by May, then pull.
Fall: start seeds indoors now for fall crop

June-August is prime bug time.

I got a late start (not harvesting by May for tomatoes) on everything & now all the veggies are infested. I plant stuff to attract beneficial insects, so I'll give them a chance to eat the enemies first before I pull.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:25AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Home tests are unreliable, so save your money.

It's in a container, right?

Your best bet, at this point, for feeding would be to get a water soluble all purpose fert like Miracle Gro All Purose(24-8-16) or Foliage Pro (9-3-6). If you go with the MG, you'll still need to supplement with Calcium and Magnesium--- Calmag.

Giving weekly doses at half strength is better than full strength every 2 weeks like the label says.

Herbicides will stay for quite a while, so stop adding them and you should be ok. It's pretty tough to kill a pepper plant.

Good luck.

Kevin

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 8:56PM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

It is your soil mix.
Never uses grass clippings that were sprayed with anything, even if it was months ago. I'm assuming you didn't fully compost them before adding. The grass clippings are burning your pepper plants (too much nitrogen, and herbicide residue)

While tomatoes and cucumbers love high levels of nitrogen, pepper plants are more sensitive to the extra nitrogen, and will curl leaves, and usually won't produce or produce very little.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:14AM
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ltilton

Tug on the plant. If it seems loose in the soil, pull it out and look at the roots.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2014 at 9:05AM
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gin_gin(5)

Cauliflower is a cool season crop. When did you plant? I'm north west of Chicago, and it's too warm now. Even if the plant survives I don't think it will produce a head of cauliflower

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 11:38PM
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