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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

20 plants?????? Zounds!
DH and I (and several neighbors) get by with 1 zuk and 1 crook necked yellow squash!
BTW Aug 8th is leave some squash on your neighbor's porch day! ;)

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:07PM
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gumby_ct(CT it says Z5)

Brown dots on the back of leaves (clustered together) may be eggs of the squash beetle. You may also see little beetles walking around the plant.

Use the sticky side of some tape (duct tape works good) to remove the eggs by pressing the tape on the eggs. Also works on the walking beetles.

These beetles are diff from the Squash Vine Borer (SVB) which lay eggs of the same color but are laid singly on the stem of the plant.

While to can try to save the wilting plant, it can be futile. Plant more plants if you haven't had enuff yet.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:54PM
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2ajsmama

Burlap ok?

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 7:30PM
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nancyjane_gardener(Zone 8ish North of San Francisco in the "real" wine country)

Lori...love that book! I'm in the Stony Point/Todd area,the flat lands, so we are usually several degrees cooler in fall and winter than SR or RP.
I'm a lazy winter gardener and usually cover most of my raised beds with cardboard to keep the weeds away, but usually have some broccoli, chard, kale, carrots, celery.
Nancy

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:18PM
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wayne_5 zone 6a Central Indiana

I planted my fall carrots and beets on July 1st so you need to hurry. Turnips likely need to be planted up there too...July 23rd here.

Carrots need to stand 2 or 3 inches apart. Rows need to be 12 inches apart.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 1:00PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Where exactly do you live? In Saskatchewan, carrots should have already been planted, although it is not too late to seed now. Turnips should also go in within the next week. Keep in mind that most fall veggies tolerate frost, so don't go by the first frost date. Go by the first -5 degrees C date as this is usually when those veggies start to decline unless protection is provided. Beets can be seeded in mid to late July.

There are lots of non-root fall veggies that can be planted as late as late August here. Look at the DTM and add 2 weeks plus typical time to germination, then count backwards.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 1:57PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Yeah unfortunately pollen doesn't work well when wet - which is why humidity affects it so much . But if it dries out quickly in the bloom some of it may take. Hard to say for sure till you see the results.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:42PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

so will mature sperm wait inside an immature flower for a few days and then pollinate it when the female is ready?

No, viable pollen is very short lived, hours, not days, with the number of hours determined by both hormonal and environmental conditions. That's one reason why you normally get so many more male blooms and why most plant more than 1 plant (to insure the timing for pollination)..

The female bloom in your picture looks like it will open within 12-18 hours of when the photo was taken. You or a bee and a newly opened male has to be there at that time . :)

Dave

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:39PM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Please read rhizo's explanation again, slowly, so that you can fully understand the time line that nature has set.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:40PM
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planterjeff(7b Grant Park Atlanta)

So I just had them hit my zucchini hard. I suggest fighting the good fight! I had one plant that had the entire stem chewed down to about 3/4 of its original size. It was literally hanging on by a few single strands! I used my finger to clear out as much of the goo as I could and then sprayed the entire wound with a strong mix of BT. After I let the BT sit and work all morning i used my hose to really clean the wound well. Once the wound was clear and only green tissue was left, I applied a big mound of compost/soil mixture around the base covering the problem area by at least 6 inches. Basically a cone of dirt around the stem. I then applied a compost tea and watered twice a day for a week or so. I followed up with BT spraying/injections around various sections of the stem during the following two nights and mornings and placed TP rolls around exposed stem areas. After a few days, the plant was back to its original vigor! So, yes you can save them!! Just add the BT to your regime. This kills the worms. Also, if you let your squash run along the ground, bury various nodes under the soil because they will develop separate root systems. This makes it so the plant will live even if a svb severs the vine in between the buried sections. The wounds will also grow new roots so keep them buried and watered well until they establish the new roots. Good luck

This post was edited by PlanterJeff on Wed, Jul 9, 14 at 13:25

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:15PM
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jkduke22

Thanks for the advice! I think I will try the BT and burying the stems more....the plants truly are out of control and are vining several feet on the ground instead of standing upright as I thought they were suppose to do. So, I think they will be good candidates to getting more roots going in the way you described.

Thanks!

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 12:24PM
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djkj(9b)

Can you please tell us what soil/mix you used?

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 4:43PM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

It is the soil. Add manure, or or mushroom compost. Your soil is too woody.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:32AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

I can't remember where I saw this, but there is a marvelous YouTube video around about using diatomaceous earth to deal with stink bugs. Yes, everyone says to use it, but they don't really say how!

What you do is get your shop vac out, and connect the hose to the output, so you use it as a blower. Then mist the tomatoes. Now grab a handful of DE and, while standing in front of the tomatoes, blow the DE all over them. It sticks! My understanding is that this *completely* removes the stink bug problem. Yes, rinse off the harvested tomatoes before you eat them. This treatment needs to be done just every few weeks (unless it rains hard.)

I had a bad problem with stink bugs and tomatoes last year, before I heard about this strategy. I was picking and vacuuming until I was blue in the face. I've been prepared to use this strategy, but haven't yet seen a single stink bug.

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 9:48AM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

If you are gonna spray, then I agree with Dan.

But for this time of year, if it is not the stink bugs it will be something else. I would pull them out, and replant for the fall crop. Organic tomatoes in Texas are only good for spring and fall. Forget about trying summer unless you want to go to war with bugs.

Spring: harvest by May, then pull.
Fall: start seeds indoors now for fall crop

June-August is prime bug time.

I got a late start (not harvesting by May for tomatoes) on everything & now all the veggies are infested. I plant stuff to attract beneficial insects, so I'll give them a chance to eat the enemies first before I pull.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:25AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Home tests are unreliable, so save your money.

It's in a container, right?

Your best bet, at this point, for feeding would be to get a water soluble all purpose fert like Miracle Gro All Purose(24-8-16) or Foliage Pro (9-3-6). If you go with the MG, you'll still need to supplement with Calcium and Magnesium--- Calmag.

Giving weekly doses at half strength is better than full strength every 2 weeks like the label says.

Herbicides will stay for quite a while, so stop adding them and you should be ok. It's pretty tough to kill a pepper plant.

Good luck.

Kevin

    Bookmark   July 6, 2014 at 8:56PM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

It is your soil mix.
Never uses grass clippings that were sprayed with anything, even if it was months ago. I'm assuming you didn't fully compost them before adding. The grass clippings are burning your pepper plants (too much nitrogen, and herbicide residue)

While tomatoes and cucumbers love high levels of nitrogen, pepper plants are more sensitive to the extra nitrogen, and will curl leaves, and usually won't produce or produce very little.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2014 at 9:14AM
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ltilton

Tug on the plant. If it seems loose in the soil, pull it out and look at the roots.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2014 at 9:05AM
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gin_gin(5)

Cauliflower is a cool season crop. When did you plant? I'm north west of Chicago, and it's too warm now. Even if the plant survives I don't think it will produce a head of cauliflower

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 11:38PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

"I'm growing 127 Cossack Pineapple, 16 Cape Gooseberry and 16 Goldie plants this year."

My eyes glazed over after "127". Yikes!!! That will be a lot of bent over, off the ground harvesting... and you'll need to do it often. Chances are that you will need to control rodents somehow, even in my small planting I found many chewed, empty husks. They eat the ripest ones first, probably attracted by the smell.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 10:38PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Yes, I think I went a little overboard this year ;-). I had rodents in mind when I planted so many, since I know I'm going to lose some of the fruit. They even went after my beets and turnips and chewed a hole through the side of my tunnel to get in. Inside the tunnels, where I have 48 ground cherry plants, I'm going to set a lot of traps baited with PB and hope they find PB more attractive. The crows could do with a meaty snack, right? Outside, I'll just hope for the best - there are lots of hawks and feral cats on patrol.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 11:15PM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

I was wondering the question about the multiple photo thing myself, I couldn't figure it out so I just create a collage of the pics I have and post them. I have posted at the most a collage of 4 photos and it seems to work out ok since most computers these days can zoom-in on a picture.

On the transplanting, I can say that I'm pretty good at it even though I'm new. I've even successfully created new plants from clippings which was fun, and a bit of a science project too. I prep either the ground or a pot with soil on the bottom, then squeeze the container the plant came in so it loosens, then I carefully tip the plant upside down, the plant and soil, and roots drop out, place it quickly in the new pot or ground, and quickly cover it up and around with soil, give it a good water, and leave it out of full sun for a few days to recover. The plant has to process sunlight and draws nutrients from its roots to do so. If the roots are in shock, it will be stressed to process the light. Lots of my plants have gone through shock, but I can say that the only plant that died was a nearly fully-grown sunflower I accidentally yanked from the ground with the roots. Don't ask. lol

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 7:54PM
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ZachS. z5 Littleton, CO

The cucumbers look OK, I generally don't sweat the seed leaves, but I do keep an eye on them a little closer if I think they are fading before they are supposed to.

Colorado gardening is tough for many unique reasons (as is everywhere). The high altitude means our sunlight is far more intense then it is at sea level and our summers, though sometimes short, can be blazing hot. Denver is regularly ranked in the top 3 driest cities in the country. 70F for a week and then 1' of snow. 80 MPH winds (which in the summers heat feels like your standing in a blow dryer) just saps every lick of moisture out of EVERYTHING, including your plants. The climate is really just a b!@#$.

We do, however, tend to have fewer pest and disease issues, and the 40-50* drop in temperature between noon and midnight makes for mighty tasty produce, if you can make it to that point lol.

Don't be a stranger over at the Rocky Mountain forum either.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 8:29PM
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davids10 z7a nv.

asparagus should be top dressed with a couple of inches of manure every year so building up the soil is probably fine. you might want to do the whole 5 in over 2 yrs. soil for asp really cant be too rich.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 7:53PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

I'm not 100%, but it looks like it could be a severe nutrient deficiency.

What are your watering and/or fertilizing habits?

What type of soil is it growing in?

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 10:19AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

In the 2nd image, the dry leaf edges indicate the plants ran short of water.

Which could have damaged roots, thus caused deficiency like symptoms in the leaves. It's rather like dominoes -- one thing leads to another.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 5:31PM
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HotHabaneroLady(7a Central MD)

That quality question is a sticking point. I've been looking since last year. And I too found hoots of search hits, but it was kind of a wasteland. Many were no longer active. Others just junk, etc. It seems like surely there should be some good ones out there!

    Bookmark   July 7, 2014 at 10:43PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

As with so many things in life, it is often difficult to find any correlation between quality information and personal opinion. :)

As with YouTube gardening videos, each reader has to evaluate the credentials of the blog author (if any ever provided) and determine if any personal agendas are coloring the information provided. Then you still have to take it all with several grains of salt.

Dave

    Bookmark   July 8, 2014 at 11:52AM
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