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socks

It looks quite harmless on the MSDS.

I've used it for years to spot clothing. It just seems those sprays and other spot removers don't work well. I wet the bar, wet the spot, rub the bar in and scrub a bit by rubbing together with my hands. Let sit a few minutes, then put in the washing machine. Might not be good to let it sit too long. Spots almost always come out.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 7:16PM
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AngZ

@ Dave: "known carcinogen" are you positive on this?

I just started using a Fels Naptha based spray for my aphid problem on veggie plants so I really hope this isn't accurate.

I did google around and found that Naptha is NOT the same as Napthalene (moth balls) which IS a carcinogen. However Wikipedia states that some forms of Naptha MAY contain carcingogens. The wikipedia for Fels Naptha states that it only really contains some irritants.

I could not find any source outside of random forums stating that Fels Naptha specifically contains carcinogens.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 3:11PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

The ratio of male to female flowers vary. Don't be surprised if all the ones you currently see turn out to be all male.

Rodney

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 2:35PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Buds can be at different stages. And may take a week to bloom. Then if the flower is pollinated, you will see a growing zuke in 3 days or so. If not pollinated it will shrivel and die. So from pollinated flower to harvestibe zuke can take about a week, if you want it to be tender.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 2:42PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Slugo ? does slug bait kill earwigs ? I am not sure about that.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 11:42AM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

Sluggo PLUS does seysonn.... It is sluggo with spinosad added to it.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 12:46PM
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springtogarden(6)

I ordered some of that velcro. Has excellent reviews. I am going to use nylons and shirts for slings for the developing fruit. Thanks again everyone and happy gardening :)!

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 3:47AM
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sleevendog (5a NY)

I like the velcro. The quality is not so great but you end up getting more lenght for your money than regular velcro. TomatoGrowerSupply had a better quality that lasted for years and eventually broke down...but no longer have it. The thinner stuff looses its grip pretty quickly so you will want longer lengths so it overlaps more.
The nice thing, once you find a standard size like 8-10 inches, you can pre-cut an extra dozen or so and attach them to your support system so they are handy right next to your plants. And as your plants grow, you can easily move them to other locations on the plant.

I also use the green stretchy non-sticky tape. I like the extra support when the toms get so big. Panty hose works great...but i would have to get white and dye it green like someone posted...looks too much like an underwear drawer.
I always think that an absorbent fabric like t-shirt strips might stay too wet in my damp climate...

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 10:59AM
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loribee2(CA 9)

I've seen rainbows of aphids: white, black, red, gray and green. Yes, those are definitely aphids.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 11:23PM
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springtogarden(6)

I agree, aphids. I have seen all kinds of colors of these pests. They can be really tiny but they get to a pretty descent size like yours in the picture.

    Bookmark   June 26, 2014 at 1:24AM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Definitely a tomatillo. Ground cherry plants tend to have more fuzzy leaves.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 9:24PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

Tomatillo, 100%

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 11:50PM
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marti8a

Pollination? I don't know. I've got 6 vines in a row, all seeds from the same package. I don't know what they would pollinate with to make this cuke. Next to them are tomatoes, then okra, green beans, peppers, and blackeye peas.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 11:27PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

That is very normal, to me. A lots of Asian varieties grow like that (crooked) if not hanging down. I bet it tastes good.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 11:48PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Sorry but I thought several replies covered all the possible options in your previous post of this question. I seem to recall some posted links in that thread to other discussions that seemed to indicate that no such thing by the name existed, right?

I know from my own search that none of the heirloom seed companies have any info on anything by that name. Neither do any of the southern-based seed companies although the odds are it was one of the many filed pea or southern pea varieties.

Perhaps it was just a family name for a variety like Grandma Bittick's Cornfield Shortcut pea or Thompson's Telephone Pole peas?

Google pulls up lots of info on cabbage with peas that are called sometimes called cabbage peas but the peas themselves are just regular green spring peas. And if Google can't find anything about them it is pretty much a lost item. :)

Linked one other discussion about them below that suggests contact some southern feed stores and ask if anyone there remembers what their real name was.

Dave

Here is a link that might be useful: Cabbage peas discussions

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 6:19PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Is it possible that your "cabbage peas" might actually be Bush White Acre? I did a Google search for "small green field pea" and came across this site: Looking for a Family Heirloom: A Field Pea from Florida

I also found a couple websites when I searched "cabbage pea seed" where people are looking for cabbage peas which may or may not be of help.
Cabbage peas elusive
Cabbage Pea

And this article is from the St. Augustine Record (a Florida newspaper) has a photo of some cream and green colored peas mixed together in a bag. White Acre Peas

Rodney

This post was edited by theforgottenone1013 on Wed, Jun 25, 14 at 19:09

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 7:01PM
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hnycrk(8a)

Here's mine.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 4:39PM
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StephanieHS(8)

Thank you both! Apparently, "browning," really means brown :)

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 5:44PM
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wstoutamire(8)

Thanks for your help! By small dead fruit, I mean about pea sized - well before the flower opens up for pollination. If I don't just pluck it early, it turns brown and dies without ever flowering. This hasn't happened much (3-4 times).

Photos posted.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 2:39PM
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wstoutamire(8)

Here's an overall view (so you can see that it's limited to a relatively small area)

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 2:40PM
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pennypond USDA 10 Sunset 21 CA

Not from Hawaii, but Jericho, Nevada and Mainland Girl are doing very well so far. I'll start the next batch Aug. 1. I guess that'll be the ultimate test!

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 12:58PM
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loribee2(CA 9)

I may experiment with some lettuce again. I had success growing it before, but the aphids loved it. I picked a head of curly leaf, brought it in the house and immersed it in water, and about 1,000 aphids came swimming out. Gave me such a bad case of heeby-jeebies that I threw it away, pulled up all the lettuce and haven't planted it again. LOL

I was thinking about a smooth leaf type like romaine or maybe spinach, then doing a better job about spraying with neem right from the start. I've been better about spraying my zucchini this year and haven't seen a solitary aphid yet. Normally, I'm having to hose colonies off the new growth by now.

I'm just not one of those people who can shrug off the possibility of eating a bug. If I want "protein", I'd rather get it from a nice piece of steak. LOL

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 1:28PM
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loribee2(CA 9)

Leave it. I trim off zucchini leaves all the time, they do that. They'll dry on their own.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 9:28AM
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springtogarden(6)

Me too prairiemoon! I planted them and immediately after the weather decided to drop to the 50s for daytime highs and cold rain for a week. This stunted them. Now they are starting to get tiny buds because the weather has been sort of ideal but the weatherman says it will be 90s by the end of next week. Hoping they set fruits before then. This roller coaster really confuses my poor plants.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 7:24AM
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molex

at the end of the season my peppers usually end up about 2 feet tall by 2-3 feet wide

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 8:30AM
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missingtheobvious(Blue Ridge 7a)

Kinda spinach-y, in my experience. (I've only eaten the leaves, haven't tried the young stems.)

Each berry has 8-10 seeds and they will all sprout....

    Bookmark   June 24, 2014 at 10:07PM
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farmerdill

Agree. Not quite as "slick" as spinach. More like beet/chard greens without the sugary taste.

    Bookmark   June 25, 2014 at 8:00AM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

I don't know whether it is safe for plants or if it will work but at least it won't blind the squirrels like the chili powder recipes can.

Lots of these "homemade recipes" are more dangerous and damaging to both plants and animals than any possible benefit they claim to provide.

Dave

    Bookmark   June 24, 2014 at 6:30PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Should be okay if you provide some naan as well!

    Bookmark   June 24, 2014 at 11:54PM
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