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werick_111

These are actually outdoors. I have them set up out on the lanai. Temperatures here have been ranging between upper 70's to lower-mid 80's. Attached is a pic of what it looks like early in the morning. Much more sun will hit it during the mid day. If that's still too warm for lettuce to grow, can anything be done to compensate for the heat?

I've used Miraclegro seed starting mix in the seedling tray, and Organic Choice Potting Mix for this larger pot.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 6:30PM
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zeuspaul(9b SoCal)

They look ok to me, maybe a little crowded if you want full heads. Keep them well watered and fed and give them lots of sun.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 9:56PM
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Peter1142(Zone 6b)

The wetness has caused some issues especially with the peppers.

The spring had extreme temperatures in both directions no one seemed to enjoy it, except my cucurbits didn't seem to mind the cold as long as it wasn't too consistent.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 5:43PM
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2ajsmama

My peppers are looking better than they were last summer, with it so wet last June, but only the Hinkelhatz (PA Dutch variety cold-weather tolerant) have a couple pods. The tomatoes look great - but are slow to set fruit. The cucurbits are really slow - zukes just this week, yellow squash (Early Prolific - not this year!) are still a couple days away from picking the first one, and bush cukes maybe next week. Little Leaf cukes are even slower. 1 tiny cantaloupe the size of a ping-pong ball, and the watermelon plants have stalled out at about 8" diameter.

Time to plant the fall crops now...

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 9:05PM
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momma_s(9b, SZ14)

Indeed! My mouth is watering right now from your picture...

I know the seedlings should be 1 foot apart, but would it be ok if they were closer? I want to have them trailing off of the back of the bed below. There's plenty of space for the plants to sprawl, but not for them to grow in the bed...

    Bookmark     June 16, 2009 at 2:04PM
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newme3

I had a beautiful Family Fun melon rot on the vine. What could cause that and how can I prevent my remaining watermelons from suffering the same result.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 5:41PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree - Downey Mildew.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 11:24AM
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ltilton

Immunox is good at preventing powdery mildew but not downy mildew, which despite the name is an entirely different disease.

A mix of chlorothanolil and mancozeb is probably as effective as anything against it. But this is another of the diseases that it's easier to prevent than cure.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 12:10PM
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smg3480

The Other pic that did not post

Here is a link that might be useful: GardenWeb

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 11:24AM
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sunnibel7 Md 7(7)

Ok, the size difference with your peppers is likely due to a difference in heat. The bucket on has soil that warmed faster, so it put on a good spurt of earlier growth than the ones in the ground. Why did the watering issue go from fine to death overnight? I think you were probably flirting around the edge of disaster for a while, then just hit the critical point. The fact that there was any standing water at all is pretty telling. Standing water in any pot is a no-no for any plant that doesn't naturally live in a pond or bog.

Also, I think you are asking how can the plants have droopy leaves from both underwatering and overwatering. Well, plant leaves get their rigidity by being pumped full of water. When they don't have enough, they go limp, pretty straightforward. The thing is when they get overwatered, the roots die. The roots are where the water comes into the plant, so without enough roots to do the job, the top needs more water than the remaining roots can supply, and voila, droopy. Hope this helps.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 10:21AM
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galinas(5B)

Next time when you plant zucchinis take in consideration their love to the sun - they always "walk" toward the sun. So if you plant them on the edge, make sure that morning sun is from the side of the edge.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 5:56AM
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ltilton

A high wind last nite shifted my #2 zuke so far it pulled the tulle cover right out from its anchors. Seems fine now, though.

There's a period when the leaves are large enough to work like sails but the vine hasn't yet set secondary roots to anchor it into the soil. Anyway, planting zukes should give them a chance to get those secondary roots down as soon as possible.

True of most squash,.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 9:35AM
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tcstoehr(8b Canby, OR)

They won't heal. And if not fully ripened, in my experience, won't store very well anyway. Freeze anything that you have doubts about is what I would do.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 8:04PM
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planatus(6)

Those butternuts are mature and will lose their green stripes as they cure. Keep them in a warm dry place for a few weeks, then move them to a cooler place and they will last through winter. If any fruits are truly immature, they will pucker as they cure.

    Bookmark     July 24, 2014 at 7:26AM
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jennieboyer(8)

I am in the southeast - south Georgia about 10 miles from the Florida line. I will check out those varieties (and if anyone has spares they want to send me, just holler :-)).

Thanks!

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 3:27PM
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drscottr(7)

I find diplomat, gypsy, and marathon to all give me huge heads, tight beads, and great taste.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 8:45PM
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conchitaFL(10 Hutchinson Island)

Sweet Dumpling or Jester, maybe?

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 12:12PM
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ediej1209(5 N Central OH)

Thanks for the suggestions... I looked at pictures of both but they weren't quite what we have. So then I searched just "Acorn Squash" and found that not all acorn squash is plain green, that there are different colors. So I gather that that is what I have so either I can: a.) hope we can eat a LOT of squash in a short period of time (what I found said that storage is only 5 - 8 weeks, yikes!) or b.) I find other folks who like squash! Because just so far there are like 10 squashes of varying sizes out there - and it's only still July (and there are only 2 of us!!!)
Thanks,
Edie

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 3:59PM
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ltilton

I don't know where you are, but most places in zone 5 June is way too late and/or too early for broccoli. They don't head well in the summer heat.

Maybe yours will get a 2nd wind come cooler weather.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 2:29PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Agree that it is way too late for broccoli even in your zone. It is a cool weather, early spring crop long since harvested. Planting in mid-June is too late and the heat now will only cause it to bolt, not form heads. Try April next year or look up the Fall garden planting date for zone 5 and start some new transplants now for planting then.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 2:47PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hard to picture without seeing it or at least a photo but you can always divert run-off around specific areas. Several methods available including trench or plain old 4" black perforated drainage pipe.

The bigger problem with a sloped garden is maintaining good soil moisture levels as the high dries and the downslop remains overly wet.

But chain link fencing isn't going to keep deer or rabbits or squirrels, etc. out anyway. They go right over-through-and under it. So if there is a better area outside the chain link that can be better fenced for varmints go for it.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 2:41PM
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sneed(7)

And even though I have 7 pumpkin plants, so far there are only 2 pumpkins, and it appears one has stopped growing.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 8:42AM
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springtogarden(6)

I am sorry to heat that! I love growing cucurbits but I can't stand PM and nothing more irritating than having a beautiful green plant and come out to check on it, only to see a bunch of white spots on it :(. Hope you get it to come back! You're ahead of me in gardening zone so maybe you will have time to save it and get more pumpkins.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:57AM
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planatus(6)

In my area there are very few flea beetles in fall compared to spring. If you plant some arugula and mustard, the ones that are around will go after that instead of your broccoli.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 8:36AM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Use row covers. Problem solved

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:54AM
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rina_(5a)

ci-lantro

I did cut off the scapes since I was trying to taste them. Probably too late, since they were pretty hard (I read that they should be picked before the '2nd curl' or so).
There were 3 scapes left that I missed (good for test galina suggested).

Rina

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:29AM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

The only thing you lose by harvesting too early is size. If you harvest too late the bulbs will be at their biggest but the bulb wrappers will rot away and they won't store as long. It's better to harvest garlic earlier than later.

I would have let one more leaf brown before I harvested those in the pic but that's just me. The size difference would have been negligible so you pulled them at the right time.

Rodney

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:43AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

In what size pot?
And what did you fill the pot with? Commercial potting mix or your own recipe?
If the latter, please list kinds and amounts of each ingredient.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 1:13AM
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ange2006

The planter is 18"x18"x10"h. I have my own compost on the bottom 5", the upper 5" is mel's mix, roughly 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 compost and 1/3 vermiculite.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 1:35AM
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