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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

Hard to picture without seeing it or at least a photo but you can always divert run-off around specific areas. Several methods available including trench or plain old 4" black perforated drainage pipe.

The bigger problem with a sloped garden is maintaining good soil moisture levels as the high dries and the downslop remains overly wet.

But chain link fencing isn't going to keep deer or rabbits or squirrels, etc. out anyway. They go right over-through-and under it. So if there is a better area outside the chain link that can be better fenced for varmints go for it.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 2:41PM
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sneed(7)

And even though I have 7 pumpkin plants, so far there are only 2 pumpkins, and it appears one has stopped growing.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 8:42AM
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springtogarden(6)

I am sorry to heat that! I love growing cucurbits but I can't stand PM and nothing more irritating than having a beautiful green plant and come out to check on it, only to see a bunch of white spots on it :(. Hope you get it to come back! You're ahead of me in gardening zone so maybe you will have time to save it and get more pumpkins.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:57AM
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planatus(6)

In my area there are very few flea beetles in fall compared to spring. If you plant some arugula and mustard, the ones that are around will go after that instead of your broccoli.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 8:36AM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Use row covers. Problem solved

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:54AM
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rina_(5a)

ci-lantro

I did cut off the scapes since I was trying to taste them. Probably too late, since they were pretty hard (I read that they should be picked before the '2nd curl' or so).
There were 3 scapes left that I missed (good for test galina suggested).

Rina

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:29AM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

The only thing you lose by harvesting too early is size. If you harvest too late the bulbs will be at their biggest but the bulb wrappers will rot away and they won't store as long. It's better to harvest garlic earlier than later.

I would have let one more leaf brown before I harvested those in the pic but that's just me. The size difference would have been negligible so you pulled them at the right time.

Rodney

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 9:43AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

In what size pot?
And what did you fill the pot with? Commercial potting mix or your own recipe?
If the latter, please list kinds and amounts of each ingredient.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 1:13AM
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ange2006

The planter is 18"x18"x10"h. I have my own compost on the bottom 5", the upper 5" is mel's mix, roughly 1/3 peat moss, 1/3 compost and 1/3 vermiculite.

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 1:35AM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

5 gallons is a small container for an eggplant too.. 10 gallons or bigger would be ideal.

    Bookmark     July 11, 2014 at 1:29PM
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mina84

thank you all for your help, thefoegottenone : yes i think i was over watering , the soil is good mix but my fault is watering them everyday with too much water.slimy_okra: i do fertilize them with balanced fertilizer and i used some epsom salt too(just once so far). i will reduce the watering amount and will see. will post more pictures if it became better in the futer.
but anyone can tell me if it will give me any fruit in the futer before the fall
thank you all

    Bookmark     July 23, 2014 at 12:24AM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

Well, I've never grown broccoli in a pot but that does seem a little small considering how tall and wide the plants grow in the open garden. Regarding watering I can't give you any rules. They will show if they need water by their behaviour. Only when needed applies to all plants - it's just that some need more than others. Feel down in the soil if you can't tell from looking at the plant. It doesn't have to be wet on top but it needs to be moist (not wet) an inch or so down.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 10:59AM
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salevene

Thanks floras,

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 11:29PM
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missrumphius(4b)

Thanks for the response. I guess I wait and hope they turn orange.
Elaina

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 2:57PM
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tracydr(9b)

I had kabochas about two years ago. They're my favorite eating squash. Even in AZ, where the summer was much too hot for their liking, my kabocha tried to overtake the garden and yard. I'd say that ten feet for kabocha is pretty "short".

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 9:19PM
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theforgottenone1013(MI zone 5b/6a)

Check out the link below. Lots of suggestions regarding a corn that tastes like corn.

Rodney

Here is a link that might be useful: where is the real corn flavor?

    Bookmark     July 13, 2014 at 9:15PM
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SortaOrganic(7)

Thanks for the link Rodney, we will do some reading.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 6:44PM
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gardener_sandy

Excerpt from a publication on the subject by Clemson University:

Although the drain field may seem to be the ideal place to have a vegetable garden, it is not recommended. Even though different soil types differ in their ability to filter contaminants out of the effluent, there is no way to be absolutely sure that everything is being filtered out. Therefore it is not recommended to plant vegetables in a septic drain field because of the health risks associated with bacterial contamination. Also, vegetable gardening requires frequent cultivation of the soil, supplemental watering and fertilization. None of these practices are recommended for a drain field. Using a raised bed is also not recommended. The additional soil over the drain field reduces the effectiveness of the system to filter the effluent because it interferes with evaporation of soil moisture.

Short and direct from Perdue:

Never place plants meant to be eaten (fruits or
vegetable plants) over septic systems.

    Bookmark     July 21, 2014 at 7:26AM
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Meuhey(zone 4a)

I'm wondering how far from a septic TANK can you plant a fruit tree or a vegetable garden or shrubs like blueberry or haskap? I have a modern septic system.

Also would a deep taproot plant like comfrey be dangerous to grow over a leach field?

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 5:53PM
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ltilton

Just right for peas. And they add nitrogen to the soil.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 4:41PM
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defrost49

Peter1142, could you protect carrots with a simple low tunnel of garden fabric? I have a portable one I use to protect a late planting of bush beans from frost. We usually get a frost mid-September but if they can get through that we get some good weather and fresh beans. I just planted bush beans after harvesting garlic.

I've had good luck with spinach wintering over without protection. Even without good snowfall, it started growing in early spring. So, if it doesn't get big enough for harvest, you can always wait until spring.

Mollyjane, I think you can plant broccoli, spinach, lettuce, greens and beets. When is your first frost date? I used Johnny's Seeds calculator to get a list.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 11:33AM
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tishtoshnm Zone 6/NM

Peter, I have had carrots do fine with the first few frosts (mine is usually October 15th). Even after that, even if the tops die, a layer mulch makes mine harvestable for some time into the winter. I would start them now, in fact, I need to go out and start some.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 2:30PM
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ltilton

RIght now, I've got squash growing in the direction of the cabbage, that I'll be harvesting on an ongoing basis. Just like I have zucchini gradually taking over the space where the lettuce has been.

Of course, the plants don't always grow on my schedule.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 12:16PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

I plant winter Brassicas between peas and beans. Then I cut the legumes down leaving the roots to rot and release their nitrogen for the Brassicas.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 12:17PM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

i water it every morning, i was told vegetables need to be watered daily
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That is the problem.
Too much water also washes out nitrogen. Yellowing is a sign of over watering and nitogen deficiency.

    Bookmark     July 21, 2014 at 7:37PM
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mina84

Thank you everybody, I think yes, I watered it too much
Do you think that it will be good if I water it properly, we are in the end of July, or it is too late for it

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 11:09AM
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farmerdill

Triploids are not. That is why you have to interplant pollenizers with seedless watermelons.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 8:37AM
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ltilton

I know. I don't quite understand that article's point. I wish they would develop them for just that reason. Gardeners with limited space don't want to devote a whole vine's worth of ground to a pollinator they don't want to eat.

But what I can't understand is the failure/inability/indifference to developing a parthenocarpic cucumis melon.

    Bookmark     July 22, 2014 at 9:43AM
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