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planterjeff(7b Grant Park Atlanta)

So I just had them hit my zucchini hard. I suggest fighting the good fight! I had one plant that had the entire stem chewed down to about 3/4 of its original size. It was literally hanging on by a few single strands! I used my finger to clear out as much of the goo as I could and then sprayed the entire wound with a strong mix of BT. After I let the BT sit and work all morning i used my hose to really clean the wound well. Once the wound was clear and only green tissue was left, I applied a big mound of compost/soil mixture around the base covering the problem area by at least 6 inches. Basically a cone of dirt around the stem. I then applied a compost tea and watered twice a day for a week or so. I followed up with BT spraying/injections around various sections of the stem during the following two nights and mornings and placed TP rolls around exposed stem areas. After a few days, the plant was back to its original vigor! So, yes you can save them!! Just add the BT to your regime. This kills the worms. Also, if you let your squash run along the ground, bury various nodes under the soil because they will develop separate root systems. This makes it so the plant will live even if a svb severs the vine in between the buried sections. The wounds will also grow new roots so keep them buried and watered well until they establish the new roots. Good luck

This post was edited by PlanterJeff on Wed, Jul 9, 14 at 13:25

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 12:15PM
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jkduke22

Thanks for the advice! I think I will try the BT and burying the stems more....the plants truly are out of control and are vining several feet on the ground instead of standing upright as I thought they were suppose to do. So, I think they will be good candidates to getting more roots going in the way you described.

Thanks!

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 12:24PM
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djkj(9b)

Can you please tell us what soil/mix you used?

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 4:43PM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

It is the soil. Add manure, or or mushroom compost. Your soil is too woody.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 9:32AM
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daninthedirt(Cent TX; HZ10, Sunset z30, USDA z8a)

I can't remember where I saw this, but there is a marvelous YouTube video around about using diatomaceous earth to deal with stink bugs. Yes, everyone says to use it, but they don't really say how!

What you do is get your shop vac out, and connect the hose to the output, so you use it as a blower. Then mist the tomatoes. Now grab a handful of DE and, while standing in front of the tomatoes, blow the DE all over them. It sticks! My understanding is that this *completely* removes the stink bug problem. Yes, rinse off the harvested tomatoes before you eat them. This treatment needs to be done just every few weeks (unless it rains hard.)

I had a bad problem with stink bugs and tomatoes last year, before I heard about this strategy. I was picking and vacuuming until I was blue in the face. I've been prepared to use this strategy, but haven't yet seen a single stink bug.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2014 at 9:48AM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

If you are gonna spray, then I agree with Dan.

But for this time of year, if it is not the stink bugs it will be something else. I would pull them out, and replant for the fall crop. Organic tomatoes in Texas are only good for spring and fall. Forget about trying summer unless you want to go to war with bugs.

Spring: harvest by May, then pull.
Fall: start seeds indoors now for fall crop

June-August is prime bug time.

I got a late start (not harvesting by May for tomatoes) on everything & now all the veggies are infested. I plant stuff to attract beneficial insects, so I'll give them a chance to eat the enemies first before I pull.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 9:25AM
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woohooman San Diego CA zone 10a

Home tests are unreliable, so save your money.

It's in a container, right?

Your best bet, at this point, for feeding would be to get a water soluble all purpose fert like Miracle Gro All Purose(24-8-16) or Foliage Pro (9-3-6). If you go with the MG, you'll still need to supplement with Calcium and Magnesium--- Calmag.

Giving weekly doses at half strength is better than full strength every 2 weeks like the label says.

Herbicides will stay for quite a while, so stop adding them and you should be ok. It's pretty tough to kill a pepper plant.

Good luck.

Kevin

    Bookmark     July 6, 2014 at 8:56PM
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gama_garden_tx(9)

It is your soil mix.
Never uses grass clippings that were sprayed with anything, even if it was months ago. I'm assuming you didn't fully compost them before adding. The grass clippings are burning your pepper plants (too much nitrogen, and herbicide residue)

While tomatoes and cucumbers love high levels of nitrogen, pepper plants are more sensitive to the extra nitrogen, and will curl leaves, and usually won't produce or produce very little.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 9:14AM
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ltilton

Tug on the plant. If it seems loose in the soil, pull it out and look at the roots.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 9:05AM
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gin_gin(5)

Cauliflower is a cool season crop. When did you plant? I'm north west of Chicago, and it's too warm now. Even if the plant survives I don't think it will produce a head of cauliflower

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 11:38PM
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zeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin

"I'm growing 127 Cossack Pineapple, 16 Cape Gooseberry and 16 Goldie plants this year."

My eyes glazed over after "127". Yikes!!! That will be a lot of bent over, off the ground harvesting... and you'll need to do it often. Chances are that you will need to control rodents somehow, even in my small planting I found many chewed, empty husks. They eat the ripest ones first, probably attracted by the smell.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 10:38PM
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Slimy_Okra(2b)

Yes, I think I went a little overboard this year ;-). I had rodents in mind when I planted so many, since I know I'm going to lose some of the fruit. They even went after my beets and turnips and chewed a hole through the side of my tunnel to get in. Inside the tunnels, where I have 48 ground cherry plants, I'm going to set a lot of traps baited with PB and hope they find PB more attractive. The crows could do with a meaty snack, right? Outside, I'll just hope for the best - there are lots of hawks and feral cats on patrol.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 11:15PM
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Bloomin_Onion(2/3)

I was wondering the question about the multiple photo thing myself, I couldn't figure it out so I just create a collage of the pics I have and post them. I have posted at the most a collage of 4 photos and it seems to work out ok since most computers these days can zoom-in on a picture.

On the transplanting, I can say that I'm pretty good at it even though I'm new. I've even successfully created new plants from clippings which was fun, and a bit of a science project too. I prep either the ground or a pot with soil on the bottom, then squeeze the container the plant came in so it loosens, then I carefully tip the plant upside down, the plant and soil, and roots drop out, place it quickly in the new pot or ground, and quickly cover it up and around with soil, give it a good water, and leave it out of full sun for a few days to recover. The plant has to process sunlight and draws nutrients from its roots to do so. If the roots are in shock, it will be stressed to process the light. Lots of my plants have gone through shock, but I can say that the only plant that died was a nearly fully-grown sunflower I accidentally yanked from the ground with the roots. Don't ask. lol

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 7:54PM
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ZachS. z5 Littleton, CO

The cucumbers look OK, I generally don't sweat the seed leaves, but I do keep an eye on them a little closer if I think they are fading before they are supposed to.

Colorado gardening is tough for many unique reasons (as is everywhere). The high altitude means our sunlight is far more intense then it is at sea level and our summers, though sometimes short, can be blazing hot. Denver is regularly ranked in the top 3 driest cities in the country. 70F for a week and then 1' of snow. 80 MPH winds (which in the summers heat feels like your standing in a blow dryer) just saps every lick of moisture out of EVERYTHING, including your plants. The climate is really just a b!@#$.

We do, however, tend to have fewer pest and disease issues, and the 40-50* drop in temperature between noon and midnight makes for mighty tasty produce, if you can make it to that point lol.

Don't be a stranger over at the Rocky Mountain forum either.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 8:29PM
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davids10 z7a nv.

asparagus should be top dressed with a couple of inches of manure every year so building up the soil is probably fine. you might want to do the whole 5 in over 2 yrs. soil for asp really cant be too rich.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 7:53PM
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howelbama(7 NJ)

I'm not 100%, but it looks like it could be a severe nutrient deficiency.

What are your watering and/or fertilizing habits?

What type of soil is it growing in?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 10:19AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

In the 2nd image, the dry leaf edges indicate the plants ran short of water.

Which could have damaged roots, thus caused deficiency like symptoms in the leaves. It's rather like dominoes -- one thing leads to another.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 5:31PM
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HotHabaneroLady(7a Central MD)

That quality question is a sticking point. I've been looking since last year. And I too found hoots of search hits, but it was kind of a wasteland. Many were no longer active. Others just junk, etc. It seems like surely there should be some good ones out there!

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 10:43PM
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digdirt2(6b-7a No.Cent. AR HZ8 Sun-35)

As with so many things in life, it is often difficult to find any correlation between quality information and personal opinion. :)

As with YouTube gardening videos, each reader has to evaluate the credentials of the blog author (if any ever provided) and determine if any personal agendas are coloring the information provided. Then you still have to take it all with several grains of salt.

Dave

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 11:52AM
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loribee2(CA 9)

LOL Deeby. Your comment reminds me of the California cheese commercial (happy cows make better cheese) with the earthquake. Typical Californians making fun of our natural disasters.

Here is a link that might be useful: Happy Cows Earthquake Commerical

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 10:36PM
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carol6ma_7ari(zones 6 & 7a)

You were right, loribee2; I checked with my son (in Berkeley) and he says it's been about 10 years since anyone felt a bump or rattle.

Here's the 2014 list of hurricane names, though, just in case you want to follow them from your west coast perch, the way I follow earthquake tremors (online, on a weather site) from the east coast:
Arthur
Bertha
Cristobal
Dolly
Edouard
Fay
Gonzalo
Hanna
Isaias
Josephine
Kyle
Laura
Marco
Nana
Omar
Paulette
Rene
Sally
Teddy
Vicky
Wilfred

Carol (not a hurricane)

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 8:38AM
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loribee2(CA 9)

Zucchini are the only plants in my garden I don't fertilize after planting, mostly because I don't want to encourage even more zucchini, LOL

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 10:40PM
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planatus(6)

Once the fruits are setting I stay out of the vines, neither weeding nor feeding. I like buttercups, too, but they can run 15 feet or more. You can nip off the ends of the vines if they threaten to take over city hall.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 7:53AM
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seysonn(8a WA/HZ 1)

You've got Powdery Mildew. The plant int the first photo probably will not survive.

However you can try to save Plant #2. If you start treating it right away.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 1:44AM
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jean001a(Portland OR 7b)

Please show us the critters & the damage.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 1:24AM
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mdy113

I too have seen no females all season! been like 3-4 weeks and all male flowers every few days, until this past weekend when i saw ONE female starting to grow ( hopefully will flower soon). i really hope my zucchini plant doesnt produce only 1 fruit all summer lol

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 4:48PM
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2ajsmama

I've got the opposite - all females, haven't seen a male yet. Thinking of asking my neighbors if one of their plants can make a pollen donation ;-)

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 7:09PM
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