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Snip off the worst, try some fungicide, and try to water from underneath. My cucumbers had this last year, and for some crazy reason they didn't die until the end of the summer! I've seen pictures of some other gardeners' and mine never got that bad, it only affected the leaves. My plants were hideous, but they kept producing, which makes me think it may have been a different strain of downy mildew? I had a ton of huge cukes. This year I started spraying since the first pointed leaves appeared...there are a few spots, but I hope those are just bugs.

Ohhh Nancy, I have to share my turkey story: A coworker of mine was selling his dark blue Mercedes. Had it detailed and polished to a mirror shine. Then because he didn't want it touched, he passed on the parking lot and parked it near open space surrounding our office.
Yep....you know where I'm going with this....the turkeys happened upon it, surrounded the car, saw "that rival gang of turkeys" in their reflection and pecked a turkey-high ring around the entire car. We all learned about it when he was on the phone explaining what happened to his insurance company. You've never seen so many people with tears rolling down their eyes, trying to stifle the laughter.

I heard someone on TV the other day state that squash vine borers stop laying eggs after the 4th of July. So if you can hang on for another two days . . .
Of course, this assumes the TV woman knows what she's talking about. Sometimes that's a stretch. ;-)

I hear ya. The weather person has as much chance of being wrong as right in our neck of the woods too. lol
Ok, well I do hope that is the case with the SVBM. We've had an unusually large number of birds in the yard. Robins seem to have nested nearby and I counted about 7 adolescents yesterday. Then a flock of starlings, and a pair of catbirds. They all seem to be very interested in the vegetable beds. Flying in and out of the beds with squash in them, so I am hoping they are finding bugs to eat.
I don't even have a feeder up, because I didn't want to attract squirrels. I do have a number of shrubs that fruit is developing on and I think they are here in anticipation of a feast. And I seem to remember reading that birds that are fruit eaters, also eat insects. So this has been an interesting development this year.


Right you are Dave, as I said, every situation is different and it's up to the individual to determine what is right. In my case, I find it helpful, in others, it can be harmful. I don't prescribe to a one size fits all approach and never will.
Course, based on yours and Lori 's comments, the author of the question seems to not care one way or the other so, either way, oh well.

Should I thin them out? Maybe they are planted to thick and the flowers are not seen or sought out because they are hidden under so much foliage......?
And hand pollination....I guess swirling a qtip around in each flower would get the job done, no?

The yellowish plant was planted in Miracle Grow garden
There is your cause. MG Garden Soil says on the bag Not for Use in Containers. It compacts, drains poorly, and retains too much water leading to root suffocation and root rot and yellowing of the leaves. It is intended only for use mixed well into existing garden beds.
Scott's Potting soil isn't much better but it doesn't compact as quickly. Still you will likely have problems with that plant further down the line.
Container plants do best by far in soil-less potting mixes. Check all the discussions on the Container Gardening forum about the various recommended container mixes to use and the ones to avoid.
Both plants are small enough that they could still be transplanted to containers containing beneficial mixes if you wish.
Dave

I had hopped mixing the MG with peat moss and manure would have made the soil okay to use in a container. I am planning to transplant into a bed this weekend so hopefully the plant will improve after that point. I sprinkled with a nitrogen fertilizer earlier today.
Thanks for all the help.
Dave

Thanks for all of the replies!
I went out and checked and several looked like they had holes in the stems. So, I cut them open and found the yucky SVB worms. I made sure to kill the worm and then covered the stem where I opened it with dirt. Will the plant live through this?
I also checked my yellow squash and zucchini and found a few worms in those also. I hope everything does not get ruined. They have really been doing well!
Also, in the process of getting the worm out of one of the acorn squash plants, one of the smaller acorn squash fell off. It's about the size of a baseball and is not dark green yet. Will it ripen up now that it is off the vine, or should I toss it?
Thanks!

"Dr. Mittleider's garden has been tested after 20 years of growing and still showed no signs of salt contamination, toxicities of the subsoil or salinity problems"
Tested by whom? A completely independent third party lab, not contracted by Dr. Mittleider?

I just came accross this method, and it seemed promising until I looked into it. Please correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this method just a run to waste with standard soil deep backup system? seems the method has yields similar to hydroponics systems, but uses more space.


The only bugs I ever see on my Kale are aphids. And while soap will kill them, it simply isn't necessary. Like flora suggested, sprays of water every few days is sufficient to keep populations at bay.
My guess, also, is that you sprayed with soap and left it on there during the heat and sun. Insecticidal soap is best used in the evening and rinsed off in the morning.
Kevin


its not the age of the flower.. its how long the pollen stays active ...
usually.. it is spent.. by the time the flower closes .. so prying it open wont help ..
that is generally speaking..a s compared to some specific gourd knowledge ... you can research it
ken


Here is the link for Dunkels products http://www.dunkelsfertilizer.com/dunkels-tomato-turbo.html


If you have plants available, you may be able to get usable sweet potatoes by planting in July. They do slow down as the days shorten, so don't make a very large bet on them.
Corn, okra, tomato plants, sweet potatoes, winter squash, pumpkins, basil, pepper plants. Maybe you could find some on sale at the local garden center or big box stores. Please check first before buying for bugs and diseases.